[Emc-users] EMC2 2.2.2 /motenc-100

2008-01-28 Thread Dave Engvall
Hi, Is there anyone using the motenc either 8 channel or 4 channel with emc 2.2.2? I'm trying to bring up a system after installing off the Live CD and cannot establish that the index pulse is getting to the software. I've tried both halmeter and halscope on the encoder index and encoder

Re: [Emc-users] Ball screws + error compensation

2008-01-27 Thread Dave Engvall
Go calculate the wavelength and it will become apparent why it is tough to do. Also you need to worry about freq stability. Dave On Jan 27, 2008, at 12:29 PM, Kirk Wallace wrote: On Sun, 2008-01-27 at 15:03 -0500, Gene Heskett wrote: ... snip Interesting John. But the whole idea has

Re: [Emc-users] EMC2 Failure to Load

2008-01-26 Thread Dave Engvall
Hi Richard, Try the comm routine once the communications are proved to be working everything should fall in place. HTH Dave On Jan 26, 2008, at 12:11 PM, Chris Radek wrote: On Sat, Jan 26, 2008 at 12:38:42PM -0700, Sebastian Kuzminsky wrote: From your debug file: insmod: error

Re: [Emc-users] I bought a mill!

2008-01-25 Thread Dave Engvall
Your local Mobil dealer should have Vactra 2 but you may have to purchase 5 gal. Shell has a equivalent product but I don't know the name. Shipping is always a killer on heavy stuff as it may double the effective price. Good luck. HTH Dave On Jan 25, 2008, at 5:11 AM, Gene Heskett wrote:

Re: [Emc-users] I bought a mill!

2008-01-25 Thread Dave Engvall
: On Friday 25 January 2008, Dave Engvall wrote: Your local Mobil dealer should have Vactra 2 but you may have to purchase 5 gal. Shell has a equivalent product but I don't know the name. Shipping is always a killer on heavy stuff as it may double the effective price. Good luck. HTH Yeah, I

Re: [Emc-users] optical probing

2008-01-25 Thread Dave Engvall
: it might be overkill for your requirements.) Nathan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave Engvall Sent: 24 January 2008 17:53 To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) Subject: [Emc-users] optical probing Hi, I'm certain that by now those

[Emc-users] optical probing

2008-01-24 Thread Dave Engvall
Hi, I'm certain that by now those of you that take Digital Machinist , Winter 2007 have absorbed the article on optical probing. The concept is a no-brainer but my stumbling block is linux camera software with the cross-hair. Does anyone know of a package that will work. I think one wants

Re: [Emc-users] more scales

2008-01-21 Thread Dave Engvall
The SONY website show some of their scales with coeff of expansion = steel and apparently others that match who knows what! MMS a couple of months ago show an approach where there was a shop made gage that ran alongside the long work pieces and was probed before each job to determine

Re: [Emc-users] more scales

2008-01-21 Thread Dave Engvall
) + temp correction. (or am I just dreaming?) just a thought. - Original Message - From: Dave Engvall [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 21, 2008 02:53 PM Subject: Re: [Emc-users] more scales The SONY website

Re: [Emc-users] SPindle PWM output on Parallel port

2008-01-13 Thread Dave Engvall
Hi Colin, Good information here: http://www.epanorama.net/circuits/semiconductor_relays.html#triacselect HTH Dave On Jan 13, 2008, at 11:41 AM, Jon Elson wrote: John Kasunich wrote: Colin MacKenzie wrote: I have a simple relay board I made using grayhill solid state relays. These relays

Re: [Emc-users] DRO scales and EMC2

2008-01-08 Thread Dave Engvall
Hi, It is indeed possible to use linear scales with emc. With backlash they do not tune as well as encoders on the ballscrew. If the ballscrews are very tight the performance should be excellent. Recently there was a proposal by someone on the list (JMK?) to use encoders on the

Re: [Emc-users] DRO scales and EMC2

2008-01-08 Thread Dave Engvall
The most satisfactory tuning I've gotten on loose ballscrews , i.e. 0.003, is with a 2500 cpr encoder on the end of the ball screw. In order of increasing ease of tuning, smoothness, etc. the linear scale was worst, an encoder on the servo motor shaft was next and the best results were

Re: [Emc-users] Spindle speed control with cnc4pc board

2007-12-26 Thread Dave Engvall
Hi Jon, Riston sounds like better stuff and easier to use. I think one gets sharper etching if the etchant is pumped over the foil. I guess I'm pretty casual about solvents having worked with benzene above the permissible limit for several weeks each year. Anytime you can smell benzene you

Re: [Emc-users] Spindle speed control with cnc4pc board

2007-12-25 Thread Dave Engvall
Kawartha Pine Ridge District Public School Board On Tue, 2007-12-25 at 15:42 -0800, Dave Engvall wrote: If anyone wants to etch a disc I can probably find an 30 mL or so of KPR. For best resolution make a 4X image and then photoreduce 4X on to film and use that to expose the KPR. It makes

Re: [Emc-users] Machining Center!!! hello

2007-12-17 Thread Dave Engvall
Hi Juanjo, Once you get into a machine with servos, limit switches and a servo'ed spindle the size of the machine doesn't make much difference. Hopefully, your servo amps expect plus and minus 10 V as a drive signal. I don't have specifics but there are people running large machines on emc2.

Re: [Emc-users] DRO with VFD-acurite scales-index

2007-12-15 Thread Dave Engvall
This may get you started: http://www.acu-rite.com/index.cfm?PageID=56ABA3A7-F620-11D4- BC6400A0CC271CB6 From there you can get the details on which scale you have. Good luck. Dave On Dec 15, 2007, at 5:16 PM, Chris Morley wrote: Some acu-rite scales have index pulses,some have the wire

Re: [Emc-users] Y axis shifting

2007-12-11 Thread Dave Engvall
Hi Emory, Check out this page in the emc wiki. http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/emcinfo.pl?Stepper_Formulas I'm a servo person so I know almost nothing about steppers. Posting the make and model of the steppers and your drives will go a long ways toward someone providing the help you are

Re: [Emc-users] Stepconf problems

2007-12-09 Thread Dave Engvall
to make it clear I am not criticizing him, and say this in a humorous spirit, but Dave Engvall has surely tested my PPMC hardware to the max, and beyond. Through that, I discovered some places the grounding on my boards was not sufficient. I think that has made the later versions more robust

Re: [Emc-users] Slides, Endoders and Resulotion

2007-12-06 Thread Dave Engvall
On Dec 6, 2007, at 6:56 PM, Jon Elson wrote: Kirk Wallace wrote: I got the first pass on my Bridgeport X axis working and I am having trouble with tuning. I am using a brushed DC motor with a 3:1 belt ratio between the motor and ballscrew. The motor is driven by a Pico PWM amp and

Re: [Emc-users] diesel motor control

2007-11-29 Thread Dave Engvall
Hi all, In 1975 I installed a mil surplus diesel in a 3/4 T pickup. Ended up putting about 5000 hrs on that rig. Never did anything heavier than 27,000 GVW ... (with 55 hp at the flywheel) ... big grunt. Injection pumps, especially the inline ones are very reliable. If I were to fool with

Re: [Emc-users] Paging doctor P.I.D. Guru

2007-11-28 Thread Dave Engvall
On Nov 28, 2007, at 7:42 AM, Marc van Doornik wrote: Right. It seems I have got it, now. Feel a bit Kelly Bundy-ish right now, but I've finally realized my mistake. All the while, I've been treating the linear motors as if they were stepping motors with a large pole period (2.4, by the

Re: [Emc-users] A simple question on I J

2007-11-27 Thread Dave Engvall
Hi Matt, I, J and K are not modal as far as I can tell. I get bitten by this one every-once-in-awhile. Dave On Nov 27, 2007, at 10:58 AM, Matthew Glenn Shaver wrote: The interpreter manual says that, in a center format arc move (G2 or G3), only one offset word (I, J, or K, whichever are

Re: [Emc-users] A simple question on I J

2007-11-27 Thread Dave Engvall
I wasn't quite wordy enough. A proper G3(2) XnnnYnnnInnnJnnn G3XnnnYnnn will get you a missing I,J,K error message D On Nov 27, 2007, at 11:27 AM, Dave Engvall wrote: Hi Matt, I, J and K are not modal as far as I can tell. I get bitten by this one every-once-in-awhile. Dave On Nov 27

Re: [Emc-users] A simple question on I J

2007-11-27 Thread Dave Engvall
Hi all, On Nov 27, 2007, at 4:39 PM, Matthew Glenn Shaver wrote: On Tue, 2007-11-27 at 13:28 -0800, Kirk Wallace wrote: I believe you don't need the J. All you need are two points on the circle and a line known to contain the center. Take the two points and draw a line through them. Draw

Re: [Emc-users] G Code Generators

2007-11-26 Thread Dave Engvall
I get a 404 when I try http://suburb.semo.net/jthornton/face.py. Beer page work fine. D On Nov 26, 2007, at 7:36 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: On Monday 26 November 2007, John Thornton wrote: I have the first of a series of G Code generators for EMC up on my web site.

Re: [Emc-users] EMC2 Reliablity

2007-11-18 Thread Dave Engvall
Hi Ray et al. For any kind of production I would think we also need coolant going ... and some shielding to keep the coolant in bounds. Also a fixture. Dave On Nov 18, 2007, at 8:20 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Stuart. This is what I know by way of answers to your questions. On

Re: [Emc-users] EMC2 Reliablity

2007-11-18 Thread Dave Engvall
The coolant tank is tucked back under the machine; I don't think anyone has ever looked at it or tested the pump. Capacity is on the order of 100 L. On Nov 18, 2007, at 1:34 PM, Jon Elson wrote: Dave Engvall wrote: Hi Ray et al. For any kind of production I would think we also need

Re: [Emc-users] EMC2 Reliablity

2007-11-18 Thread Dave Engvall
Well, that is good news; just pump it dry and start over with low mineral water. Most of the well water in this area is pretty hard so I try to use snow melt for coolant. D On Nov 18, 2007, at 7:34 PM, John Kasunich wrote: Dave Engvall wrote: The coolant tank is tucked back under

Re: [Emc-users] EMC2 Reliablity

2007-11-18 Thread Dave Engvall
tank is tucked back under the machine; I don't think anyone has ever looked at it or tested the pump. Capacity is on the order of 100 L. On Nov 18, 2007, at 1:34 PM, Jon Elson wrote: Dave Engvall wrote: Hi Ray et al. For any kind of production I would think we also need coolant going

Re: [Emc-users] EMC2 on read only chip!?

2007-11-17 Thread Dave Engvall
Jon et al. Well put! I've been running emc since you had to patch the kernel (0.9 patch , its been so long I can't remember) to get emc to run. Somewhat before the BDI's. I've never had a well checked out controller take off on me. Anytime I've had a problem I had done something stupid and

Re: [Emc-users] Ethernet I/O

2007-10-29 Thread Dave Engvall
Jon, Rafael, et al IIRC CAN is 1 Mbit/sec. Philosophically I'd opt for KISS. (keep it simple stupid). No more complexity than is necessary to get the job done. To me that sounds a lot like raw packets point to point. Dave On Oct 29, 2007, at 10:33 AM, Jon Elson wrote: Rafael Skodlar wrote:

Re: [Emc-users] Hello everyone!

2007-10-01 Thread Dave Engvall
Hi Jim, This machine should make a fine conversion to emc. Relevant material is on the emc wiki. Just go to the 'Page Index' and look at the different listings under Mazak. also: http://webpages.charter.net/bengvall/emc/emcconversion.html Your most difficult problem may be to decide what

Re: [Emc-users] linear motors with EMC

2007-09-29 Thread Dave Engvall
Hi John, Just a comment on linear glass scales. Acu-rite does make the ENC250 series in the lengths up to 6 m. with a resolution of 5 um. Really on the edge if you want to control to 0.0005. Using a 2.5 um resolution scale would be better. No idea of price but the SENC150 series goes for

[Emc-users] front panel pulsecoder

2007-09-29 Thread Dave Engvall
Hi all, Step one is now done; the pulsecoder is connected to channel 03 encoder on the stg board and it works. 400 counts /rev. This would scale nicely to 0.100/rev. I have a nice front panel switch for X, Y, Z ,B. If I use B as a not enable then the other positions select axis and enable at

Re: [Emc-users] front panel pulsecoder

2007-09-29 Thread Dave Engvall
in manual for milling. Dave Engvall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, Step one is now done; the pulsecoder is connected to channel 03 encoder on the stg board and it works. 400 counts /rev. This would scale nicely to 0.100/rev. I have a nice front panel switch for X, Y, Z ,B. If I use B

Re: [Emc-users] G100+emc2

2007-09-09 Thread Dave Engvall
The Mac mini's are very tempting. Duo 2 core. 1.8 GHz . Runs OSX ( BSD unix ) with an Apple replacement of X on top. AFIK X the proper compile of X runs just fine. The only problem is the lack of EMC compatible I/O. The mini's have USB, Ethernet, and Firewire. The really nice thing is the

Re: [Emc-users] synchronized axes.

2007-08-24 Thread Dave Engvall
Hi Ben, Thanks for the ideas, option 3 makes the most sense to me and I guess the best approach is to rig up a couple of servo motors and start experimenting. Dave On Aug 24, 2007, at 3:38 AM, ben lipkowitz wrote: Dave Engvall wrote: Think long arm sewing machine for quilting

[Emc-users] synchronized axes.

2007-08-23 Thread Dave Engvall
Hi all, I have an application that needs (eventually) 4 axes. Two are X and Y and the other pair need to track (rotationally) with in a few degrees or better. Rotational speeds are from zero to 1800 rpm for one axis and either 1:1 or 2:1 for the other. The speed of rotation and the

Re: [Emc-users] EDM question from a noobie at it

2007-08-20 Thread Dave Engvall
Hi Gene, Paraffin oil aka lamp oil is pretty close to EDM dielectric. Using 70 -90 V for your DC supply and something on the order of 10 uf with a resistor in the 20-50 ohm range should get you an RC circuit that will be close. A bit if component substitution will get you to an acceptable

Re: [Emc-users] G28 behavour

2007-08-04 Thread Dave Engvall
Hi Greg, et al Ah! Now the intermediate point make sense. As for an alarm with G28... I wouldn't know. I can comment that with G54 and G53 co-incident a G53Z0 does not cause an error when tool length offset is active. Because of this I've gotten in the habit of raising the spindle and then

Re: [Emc-users] OT Encoder Question

2007-08-03 Thread Dave Engvall
Hi Jon, Those are hot chips... don't know how many resolvers there are out that will handle the reference freq tho ... but not many apps will push the rps spec. ;-) http://www.analog.com/en/subCat/0,2879,760%5F791%5F0%5F%5F0%5F,00.html Dave On Aug 3, 2007, at 9:03 PM, Jon Elson wrote:

Re: [Emc-users] Getting arcs as G2/G3 moves in g-code?

2007-07-30 Thread Dave Engvall
Hi Al, I suppose there are really two answers to this question. (a). write the g-code yourself, tedious but gives you exactly what you want or: (b) use a cam program that generates arcs with cutter comp. Your question gives me a nice lead-in to bring up a small problem within emc. Cutter

Re: [Emc-users] EMC board nominations

2007-07-24 Thread Dave Engvall
Steve, I think Ray H. or Matt S. would fit that bill and also bring a historical viewpoint to the board. It may depend on how much arm twisting it takes. ;-) Dave On Jul 24, 2007, at 4:25 PM, Steve Stallings wrote: I would like to see an experienced industrial machine tool retrofitter or

Re: [Emc-users] Printer

2007-07-04 Thread Dave Engvall
Hi Bill, Synergy ( webersys.com) or google for 'synergy cad' should get you to the site for a cad/cam package that runs on either Windoze or linux. If you can do with 2.5D cad then the package is free. It is upgradable in steps eg. 2.5D cam, wireframe and finally parasolids. Without

Re: [Emc-users] OT: Synergy

2007-06-25 Thread Dave Engvall
Hi Kirk, Weber Systems is back on line this morning; both phones and internet. Have fun! Dave On Jun 22, 2007, at 11:06 AM, Kirk Wallace wrote: Does anyone know if Synergy is still an active product? I am trying to get up back up to speed with it. I tried to bring up the Weber Systems

Re: [Emc-users] How much is too much jitter?

2007-06-05 Thread Dave Engvall
copy from .ini MAX_VELOCITY = 1.5 MAX_ACCELERATION = 1.5 STEPGEN_MAXVEL = 1.7 STEPGEN_MAXACCEL = 1.7 BACKLASH = 0. end copy OK so max velo is 90 ipm seems pretty hot for steppers but I'm not a stepper person. On the other hand the accel at 1.5 seems pretty

Re: [Emc-users] estop writes to toolchange pin out?

2007-05-20 Thread Dave Engvall
Hi all, IIUC then you want to be able to halt a program and start again someplace except the first line. So: Under tkemc ... bring up the program in the editor. place the cursor at the first of the line you want to start on... move the mouse to the restart button at the bottom of the edit

Re: [Emc-users] Need help with g2-g3 stuffs

2007-05-19 Thread Dave Engvall
Hi Gene, In short tool comp works like a charm but the toughest part for me has always been getting into it. I think the approach needs to bend a bit; even a thou will do so that you are cutting an outside corner in entry. Try starting about a tool dia away from your part. Like you said,

Re: [Emc-users] Turning tiny bits...solution?

2007-05-10 Thread Dave Engvall
If you put any filtering in the way of caps on the supply you are going to get about 1.41 times the AC voltage... I'm in a similar situation: years ago I bid (on ebay) for some servo motors that turned out to be steppers. German made, 4 nm. 205 V and pretty good frequency response ... oh

Re: [Emc-users] Probing

2007-04-29 Thread Dave Engvall
Hi Chris, others. Really tool length is just part of the problem. A tool number is associated with both a tool length and a tool diameter which may or may not be nominal. So far I just grit my teeth and work thru the process. I have considered (briefly) a procedure to normalize the measured

Re: [Emc-users] Probing

2007-04-29 Thread Dave Engvall
to the laser setups that measure both length and diameter. Gaging the diameter is going to be the most difficult. After that as someone on this list once said: it is simply a matter of software. Dave On Apr 29, 2007, at 8:35 AM, Chris Radek wrote: On Sun, Apr 29, 2007 at 08:27:00AM -0700, Dave

Re: [Emc-users] Probing

2007-04-29 Thread Dave Engvall
option. Dave On Apr 29, 2007, at 8:44 AM, Dave Engvall wrote: Hi Chris, You are quite correct in assuming I have a series of tool holders; however I do a lot of one-off stuff in which the tooling outruns the number of tool holders I have. With the right probe and program we ought to be able

Re: [Emc-users] Need a contour finder probe

2007-04-25 Thread Dave Engvall
http://www.isd.mel.nist.gov/personnel/kramer/pubs/RS274NGC_3.web/ RS274NGC_33a.html describes G38.2 use etc. see: 3.5.9 Straight Probe - G38.2 3.5.9.1 The Straight Probe Command and 3.5.9.2 http://www.linuxcnc.org/docs/html/config/emc2hal/emc2hal.html motion.probe-input IN bit G38.2 uses

Re: [Emc-users] Need a contour finder probe

2007-04-24 Thread Dave Engvall
Hi Gene, IIRC emc2 has a very nice probing routine that will do what you want and log the results. The problem, of course, is a decent probe. I would recommend trying to make a Renishaw type probe ... ie. 3 points in a triangle where the probe can lift off (disconnect) any single node to

Re: [Emc-users] Show us your pics of unobtanium!

2007-04-14 Thread Dave Engvall
True unobtanium! Done on the Mazak V5 with well used cutters. Material is 8620 and will eventually be hardened and nitrided. Naturally running under EMC. Still at 2.0 ... need to upgrade. I finally have cat5 to the shop but not connected yet.

Re: [Emc-users] Show us your pics of unobtanium!

2007-04-14 Thread Dave Engvall
and will provide good backing for the nidride. Dave - Original Message - From: Dave Engvall [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2007 5:06 PM Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Show us your pics of unobtanium! True unobtanium

Re: [Emc-users] Abort messes up position

2007-03-30 Thread Dave Engvall
Using TkEmc -- scripts --- set coordinates will give you a popup that allows you set set g54 -- g59.3. You can use the teach mode or edit the numbers directly. All axes are independent so you can set one , then move and set the next, etc and finally write the results and exit. Ray can tell

Re: [Emc-users] back line

2007-01-28 Thread Dave Engvall
Hi Karen, There is some interest in this kind of functionality within emc. It would be handy for either sinker or wire edm at the least and you apparently have thought of another use. If one can program in Tk/Tcl then modifying tkemc to provide this kind of movement should not be too

Re: [Emc-users] Ubuntu disks

2007-01-01 Thread Dave Engvall
www.linuxjournal.com/article/8831 Use the cdrecord -scanbus to find out where your cd recorder is. After that it is pretty easy. As for the DOS partition I suspect you 'get' to manually partition during the ubuntu install. Good Luck. Dave On Jan 1, 2007, at 9:21 PM, Hugh Currin wrote:

Re: [Emc-users] E-stop circuit ?

2006-12-16 Thread Dave Engvall
On Dec 16, 2006, at 9:40 AM, John Prentice wrote: Anders, greetings Some comments from a personal point of view - others will differ! Ditto! There are probably as many ways of doing e-stop as there are machines. ;-) From my viewpoint. 24 V for estop is good (reliable). The entire estop

Re: [Emc-users] Getting parport to work

2006-11-26 Thread Dave Engvall
Indeed, those numbers and magnifying glass are really handy. Spent more time than I would care to admit fighting a serial connector over just that issue. :-( Dave On Nov 26, 2006, at 7:35 PM, Chris Radek wrote: On Sun, Nov 26, 2006 at 06:29:36PM -0500, Jerry Mitchell wrote: Jeff, Chris,

Re: [Emc-users] Questions from potential new user.

2006-11-22 Thread Dave Engvall
See: http://www.cnc-workshop.com/ On Nov 22, 2006, at 8:03 AM, RogerN wrote: - Original Message - From: Jon Elson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2006 8:37 PM Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Questions from

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