Re: [Emc-users] quick question on machine extents

2020-05-04 Thread Jon Elson
On 05/03/2020 10:20 PM, andrew beck wrote: Hey Jon sorry to confuse people. That was before the Touchscreen upgrade. Now you can't see anything is axis with the new touch screen. I have the probe basic gui working now though so will probably stay with that. And everything works on that so I

Re: [Emc-users] quick question on machine extents

2020-05-03 Thread Jon Elson
On 05/03/2020 04:25 PM, andrew beck wrote: hey guys it is a funny one I tested the new probe basic QTPYVCP gui and can see the machine extents box in that. on this same control with all the same settings. I am only opening the sim at the moment though. I haven't gotten my configuration to

Re: [Emc-users] quick question on machine extents

2020-05-03 Thread Jon Elson
On 05/02/2020 11:05 PM, andrew beck wrote: Hey guys. I have a bit of a strange issue here. I just put a new touch screen monitor on my cnc today. I have not changed any ini file stuff or hal files. Just the monitor before the change everything worked fine and I could see the actual machine

Re: [Emc-users] cloning hard drive to new SSD

2020-05-01 Thread Jon Elson
On 05/01/2020 05:17 PM, andrew beck wrote: at that point I just re wiped the SSD with my linuxcnc boot stick and gave up. took me 30 mins to download everything I was missing and I was away making parts later that afternoon. Well, that way you get a new version with some bug fixes and new

Re: [Emc-users] RXTX problem

2020-04-29 Thread Jon Elson
On 04/29/2020 02:14 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: This has nothing to do with linuxcnc other than this install is from one of our installers. I have a utility that talks to a 35 yo legacy computer, but needs the RXTX libraries to do it. Not familiar with this, is this a Java library? It hasn't

Re: [Emc-users] A simple LinuxCNC system

2020-04-29 Thread Jon Elson
On 04/29/2020 12:54 AM, John Dammeyer wrote: Here's my question for you. If the asynchronous pulse generator from your $1 chip has just created a pulse and the SERVO_PERIOD now wants to a new rate how do you set up the frequency generator so that the next pulse is correctly spaced from the

Re: [Emc-users] A simple LinuxCNC system

2020-04-29 Thread Jon Elson
On 04/29/2020 12:10 AM, John Dammeyer wrote: Hi Gene, I'm just in learn mode trying to figure out how LinuxCNC works. Not worried about speed. So far, with various steppers when actually used to drive machines I've found that if you can step at 20kHz you are way beyond the torque

Re: [Emc-users] Help with some sporadic followin errors

2020-04-25 Thread Jon Elson
On 04/25/2020 02:53 PM, Leonardo Marsaglia wrote: I happen to have some following erros on both X and Z axis from time to time, mostly when the machine is not homed (but that could be my impression). For historical reasons, the naming of the following error parameters are confusing. FERROR is

Re: [Emc-users] cloning hard drive to new SSD

2020-04-23 Thread Jon Elson
On 04/23/2020 05:43 PM, andrew beck wrote: hey jon my old hard drive is 1000 gb the new SSD is 120 gb So I definitely need to shrink the iso. But the actual data on the old hard drive is probably only about 3 gb OK, step one is use fdisk to see the partition arrangement on the old drive.

Re: [Emc-users] cloning hard drive to new SSD

2020-04-23 Thread Jon Elson
On 04/23/2020 12:10 PM, Rafael Skodlar wrote: Bravo. I'm horrified reading recommendations to use dd for cloning files on storage devices. dd copies fragmented files as is so you are messing new drive for performance issues from the get go. Yes, this is true. But, if you copy the

Re: [Emc-users] cloning hard drive to new SSD

2020-04-22 Thread Jon Elson
On 04/22/2020 09:22 PM, andrew beck wrote: Hey guys. Just a quick question here I recently heard some funny clanking noises in my old 2nd hand hard drive on my VMC and thought I better change it out and get a SSD in there. I have a bunch of stuff loaded onto the hardrive for probe basic gui

Re: [Emc-users] Non-circular boring. Linuxcnc style.

2020-04-21 Thread Jon Elson
On 04/21/2020 09:11 PM, Sam Sokolik wrote: Just the way the path was generated... Didn't try that hard. Acad -> ace converter for simple stuff like this. (Or by hand) I have a bunch of little C programs that write most of my G-code. Making round bores and rectangular pockets, and

Re: [Emc-users] Non-circular boring. Linuxcnc style.

2020-04-21 Thread Jon Elson
On 04/21/2020 08:19 PM, Sam Sokolik wrote: Some of the machining, https://youtu.be/sXU0e2dmtwU How come you did all that conventional milling? You get better surface finish and longer tool life with climb milling.I do practically everything by climb milling. Jon

Re: [Emc-users] toolchange numbers are confusing on the documentation

2020-04-21 Thread Jon Elson
On 04/21/2020 04:04 PM, Stuart Stevenson wrote: I think you should also have some logic to eliminate the possibility of the manual tool change button releasing the tool during any operation other than the manual mode. You don't want to tool change button to release the tool while the spindle is

Re: [Emc-users] toolchange numbers are confusing on the documentation

2020-04-21 Thread Jon Elson
On 04/20/2020 10:39 PM, John Dammeyer wrote: Sorry, I may have been premature. The STMBL has a HAL like interface for configuration. It has the AND operation for example: # Now enable drive if external signal there load and and0.rt_prio = 12 fault0.en=io0.C78 # No fault when not enabled.

Re: [Emc-users] Non-circular boring. Linuxcnc style.

2020-04-14 Thread Jon Elson
On 04/14/2020 12:48 PM, John Dammeyer wrote: Thanks. The last bit of LinuxCNC milling with a 6mm carbide plunging into HRS broke two of them. I'm really not doing this right yet. So any examples of feeds, speeds and coolant are really helpful. If the end mill is center-cutting, then you

Re: [Emc-users] Gecko Failure

2020-04-07 Thread Jon Elson
On 04/06/2020 06:16 PM, John Dammeyer wrote: Then cover back on and all together into the machine. The Z axis works perfectly. The drive doesn't get any warmer than it did before. As in I can hold my hand on the heatsink and it's barely warm. The connector also does not feel warm nor do

Re: [Emc-users] Backing up an old drive

2020-04-06 Thread Jon Elson
On 04/06/2020 04:10 PM, Glenn Edwards wrote: Jon The drive is 500Gb SATA and I can hook up several. I 'man dd' on the old Ubuntu 8.04LTS and seems to be just a file copy service. But I will try your suggestion when I boot off a LiveCD as this makes sense not to disturb the Hot drive. No, dd

Re: [Emc-users] Gecko Failure

2020-04-06 Thread Jon Elson
On 04/06/2020 03:36 PM, John Dammeyer wrote: I have a Raspberry PiZeroW reporting this: T=15.6C,RH=55.0%,DP=6.6C And yet I've had more surface rust on everything this year than over the last 10. Go figure. There shouldn't be any moisture condensing on anything with a dew point at 6.6C. And

Re: [Emc-users] Gecko Failure

2020-04-06 Thread Jon Elson
On 04/06/2020 11:43 AM, Peter C. Wallace wrote: The general problem with Tin connectors is that they have a positive feedback failure mechanism if used anywhere near their current limits, their contact resistance rises over time and heat exposure and the higher the resistance, the high the

Re: [Emc-users] Gecko Failure

2020-04-06 Thread Jon Elson
On 04/05/2020 11:24 PM, John Dammeyer wrote: Anyone ever run into this sort of thing with a G213V driver? http://www.autoartisans.com/mill/G213V-Failure.jpg It was running the Knee with a 1200 oz-in motor and 60VDC power supply. Typical result of a high-resistance connection getting hot.

Re: [Emc-users] Backing up an old drive

2020-04-05 Thread Jon Elson
On 04/05/2020 09:07 PM, Glenn Edwards wrote: All, I have EMC2 2.3.0 running on Ubuntu 8.04LTS and it is driving a desk-top CNC machine. I know, pretty old stuff. But it is running fine and I am starting a project that will last a month, or so. I just noticed the hard-drive is making

Re: [Emc-users] closing the loop in linuxcnc with a 7i76 mesa card and step direction control

2020-04-05 Thread Jon Elson
On 04/05/2020 08:51 PM, Phill Carter wrote: Sorry to jump in here but I have a quick question for Jon, do the Pico cards require a base thread or do they use only a servo thread. I guess what I am asking is are they OK on a PREEMPT RT machine with not so good latency or do they require RTAI

Re: [Emc-users] closing the loop in linuxcnc with a 7i76 mesa card and step direction control

2020-04-05 Thread Jon Elson
On 04/05/2020 03:48 PM, andrew beck wrote: thanks for the replies guys. I am currently seeing what cards JT has that I can get. I have another question though. I also have a slant bed cnc lathe here that I am going to retrofit next. I will need at least 2 axis of stepgens and a 0-10 volt

Re: [Emc-users] Open source CNC architecture

2020-04-03 Thread Jon Elson
On 04/03/2020 02:32 AM, Phill Carter wrote: On 3 Apr 2020, at 4:00 pm, Chris Albertson wrote: The discussion is a little bit like what Henry Ford called "a faster horse". It looks to me that there are a couple of dudes trying to explain that LinuxCNC is wrong and the rest of us just

Re: [Emc-users] connecting up mpg

2020-03-31 Thread Jon Elson
On 03/31/2020 02:21 PM, andrew beck wrote: Does anyone have any reasonablely priced simple mpg pendants I can buy? I just want a estop, selector switches and mpg on it. And would like cheap lol Well, I made my own. See http://pico-systems.com/pendant.html The top one was the first I did,

Re: [Emc-users] File and Module names.

2020-03-30 Thread Jon Elson
On 03/30/2020 07:17 PM, John Dammeyer wrote: On 03/30/2020 04:27 PM, John Dammeyer wrote: When did the hal come in? This stuff has dates on or around 2004--2007. John Kasunich proposed HAL at a meeting in 2005, I'm pretty sure, and demonstrated a small version of it in 2006, I think. It

Re: [Emc-users] File and Module names.

2020-03-30 Thread Jon Elson
On 03/30/2020 04:27 PM, John Dammeyer wrote: When did the hal come in? This stuff has dates on or around 2004--2007. John Kasunich proposed HAL at a meeting in 2005, I'm pretty sure, and demonstrated a small version of it in 2006, I think. It was merged into EMC some time after that,

Re: [Emc-users] Slow decreased speed/accel after homing

2020-03-20 Thread Jon Elson
On 03/20/2020 08:46 AM, Leonardo Marsaglia wrote: I re-checked and I have the same values for speed and acceleration in joints and axes. The thing that was limiting my velocity was the OFFSET_AV_RATIO entry. I had it near 0.9 and once I homed the axis started to cause the effect. Reducing it to

Re: [Emc-users] A hal question?

2020-03-19 Thread Jon Elson
On 03/19/2020 04:02 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: Greetings; I am trying to reduce the f/r error in an ATS667 based encoder. The index pulse is turned upside down by a reversal of spindel direction. Tts the nature of the beast to remain in this stable state until the approach of the triggering

Re: [Emc-users] Slow decreased speed/accel after homing

2020-03-18 Thread Jon Elson
On 03/18/2020 02:14 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: I'm in that same boat Jon, but its axis and joint settings that it forces me to match or its showstopper exit at init time. I have wondered but haven't asked why it doesn't do away with the axis setting and use he joint for everything. But in that

Re: [Emc-users] connector ignoramus

2020-03-18 Thread Jon Elson
On 03/18/2020 02:04 PM, Rafael Skodlar wrote: Quality of flat cables properties is not always the same. When IDE and SCSI disk drives were top of high tech, there were two types of better flat cables. One kind had a shield on one side, the other had twisted pair wires next to each other. I

Re: [Emc-users] Slow decreased speed/accel after homing

2020-03-18 Thread Jon Elson
On 03/18/2020 01:11 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: On Wednesday 18 March 2020 13:08:35 Jon Elson wrote: On 03/17/2020 11:34 PM, Leonardo Marsaglia wrote: The behaviour is the following: When I start LinuxCNC and move the axis I get the maximum speed 10.000 mm/min. Once I hit the home buttons

Re: [Emc-users] Slow decreased speed/accel after homing

2020-03-18 Thread Jon Elson
On 03/17/2020 11:34 PM, Leonardo Marsaglia wrote: The behaviour is the following: When I start LinuxCNC and move the axis I get the maximum speed 10.000 mm/min. Once I hit the home buttons for both axis (no limits linked yet since I'm testing the config) I get a 1.800 mm/min max velocity,

[Emc-users] overriding password

2020-02-29 Thread Jon Elson
On 02/29/2020 09:14 AM, chris wrote: I went to my shop the other day and it's been so long since I used my little mill I cant remember my login. Any suggestions? I really dont want to have to do a clean install.Chris Ugh! There is a way to do a single-user boot. It is an option to the

Re: [Emc-users] looking to add inputs on Pico setup

2020-02-23 Thread Jon Elson
On 02/23/2020 09:24 AM, Ed wrote: Is there an easy way to add encoder inputs on a 4 axis Pico Systems setup? Hopefully without giving up I/O. Specifically adding a hand wheel and to select feed rate and spindle speed. No easy way to do that. On one of my machines I have no additional

Re: [Emc-users] Feeds and speeds

2020-02-19 Thread Jon Elson
On 02/19/2020 12:02 PM, John Dammeyer wrote: And soft castings from scrap aluminium like extruded old window frames is a challenge unto itself. I too use WD-40 for that. Been thinking of just using a spray bottle with kerosene. Supposed to be just as good and much cheaper. Ugh, some

Re: [Emc-users] Feeds and speeds

2020-02-19 Thread Jon Elson
On 02/19/2020 10:21 AM, dave engvall wrote: Indeed WD-40 seems to work well for Al. I have some Al that is plain touchy. Creates heat very quickly and then I get adhesion. 6061-T6 seems to be OK. With soft aluminum, the key is to take light cuts and keep the feedrate up. The problem is that

Re: [Emc-users] Feeds and speeds

2020-02-18 Thread Jon Elson
On 02/18/2020 08:45 PM, John Dammeyer wrote: I've got Mecsoft AlibreCAM generating the tool paths for this in the attached photo. It's Cold Rolled steel 3/16" thick. I'm using a 1/4" HSS end mill. I'm trying to figure out, using Machinists tool box, exactly what feeds and speeds could be

Re: [Emc-users] Got my new ATS-667's today, but thats a math connundrum for me.

2020-02-18 Thread Jon Elson
On 02/18/2020 03:06 AM, Les Newell wrote: Hi Jon, Thinking about it, you're mostly right. I didn't think it through. My suggested spacing assumes the teeth are square, which of course they are not. The actual spacing is going to depend on the sensing range of the sensors and width of the

Re: [Emc-users] Got my new ATS-667's today, but thats a math connundrum for me.

2020-02-17 Thread Jon Elson
On 02/17/2020 03:57 PM, Les Newell wrote: They should be any multiple of the tooth spacing plus half a tooth spacing. Nope, I made that mistake first time. It should be "plus 1/4 of a tooth space". Jon ___ Emc-users mailing list

Re: [Emc-users] Got my new ATS-667's today, but thats a math connundrum for me.

2020-02-17 Thread Jon Elson
On 02/17/2020 03:20 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: How far apart are they to be to output a good quadrature signal? Mounting them with JBKwik weld seems to be a lot less forgiving because its not possible to move them a few thou to fine tune like it was when using relatively flexible goop. Well,

Re: [Emc-users] RPI4 is pretty close to a decent machine control solution...

2020-02-17 Thread Jon Elson
On 02/17/2020 11:37 AM, John Dammeyer wrote: I've been asking on other metal working groups about CNC and it's really amazing how few CNC installations there are out there. Many people are happy with a DRO and power feed on one or two axis. And, no, you are looking in the wrong places.

Re: [Emc-users] RPI4 is pretty close to a decent machine control solution...

2020-02-17 Thread Jon Elson
On 02/17/2020 11:37 AM, John Dammeyer wrote: I think that supports my position that LinuxCNC is really just a middle box between display and motion hardware and if you want optimal performance you offload the real work to something that isn't LinuxCNC. But, that is NOT what my boards do. In

Re: [Emc-users] RPI4 is pretty close to a decent machine control solution...

2020-02-17 Thread Jon Elson
On 02/16/2020 06:10 PM, John Dammeyer wrote: Hi Sam, Nice. But it does seem to support my premise on isolating LinuxCNC from the hardware control. For example, way back a Pentium 386-66 with WIN-95 and MACH2 CNC was able to do this at 25KHz stepping. A BeagleBone Black with Machine Kit has

Re: [Emc-users] just call me grumpy! (7i43)

2020-02-17 Thread Jon Elson
On 02/16/2020 03:19 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: Is this cable tester downloadable from the pico systems web site? It is not a "cable tester", it is a program that communicates with each of my controller boards and tests all of the functions of that particular board. One of the tests is to write

Re: [Emc-users] just call me grumpy! (7i43)

2020-02-16 Thread Jon Elson
On 02/16/2020 01:26 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: Jon, are you saying that a 25 line ribbon cable doesn't work right omn a D-525-MW mobo? Or is there a length beyond which it not reliable? I ask because the only times I've had a cable problem, driving it with either of my D-525-MW's parports it

Re: [Emc-users] Open source CNC architecture

2020-02-16 Thread Jon Elson
On 02/15/2020 08:04 PM, Phill Carter wrote: I understand that if you are using a +/-10V with encoder feedback directly back into LinuxCNC that this concept would not work for you. But since you say you need LinuxCNC can you tell us what you do have? How is your LinuxCNC connected to your

Re: [Emc-users] just call me grumpy! (7i43)

2020-02-15 Thread Jon Elson
On 02/15/2020 02:45 PM, dave engvall wrote: Hi all, A quick look at web sources seems to indicate that the EPP on some motherboards simply doesn't work. In my case I'm having problems with a 7i43 -5i33. Has anyone gotten the 7i43/5i33 to work with a D525 intel board? If so would you

Re: [Emc-users] Linuxcnc 2.9.0 hangs WORKS - NOT

2020-02-13 Thread Jon Elson
On 02/13/2020 04:53 PM, Thomas D. Dean wrote: I shut down the system last night. I can boot debian 7 (sda) and run linuxcnc from the distro. Everything comes up and seems normal. But, on boot into debian 10 (sdb), it drops into the console login. I can startx, but, the display is

Re: [Emc-users] Question for Peter C.W.

2020-02-13 Thread Jon Elson
On 02/12/2020 09:42 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: quadrature is way off, but what concerns me in that these ATS-667's are running on 5 volts, normally switch rail to rail. But at the hm2-encoder-0 a b or Index, I am seeing a decent square wave, but its only 1 volt p-p. For all three ATS-667's.

Re: [Emc-users] trying to connect a encoder from cnc spindle motor to schiender vfd

2020-02-12 Thread Jon Elson
On 02/12/2020 05:21 AM, Thomas J Powderly wrote: hello BTW if your encoder is 11uA ( not 5V not 1Vp/p ) then the last diagram here may be of use http://pdf.dzsc.com/RLX/RLXA2510.pdf Hey, this is a GREAT chip! But, can you actually buy them? All I see are Russia and AliBaba, no US

Re: [Emc-users] trying to connect a encoder from cnc spindle motor to schiender vfd

2020-02-12 Thread Jon Elson
On 02/12/2020 12:43 AM, andrew beck wrote: Hi guys wondering if anyone has any ideas here. I have a heidanhain spindle motor that runs up to 1 rpm and has a 5v sin cos encoder on it. I am currently controlling the motor with a schiender vfd. I am talking to the support engineers here in

Re: [Emc-users] question about glue

2020-02-12 Thread Jon Elson
On 02/11/2020 10:49 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: On Tuesday 11 February 2020 21:55:55 Jon Elson wrote: I used either PC-7, in the red and black metal cans. I have not had any problems so far. Jon And where might I src that Jon? I don't recall seeing that at my usual git'n places. My local

Re: [Emc-users] question about glue

2020-02-11 Thread Jon Elson
On 02/11/2020 12:27 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: What sort of glue can I use that can withstand an oily environment of light 00w20 for many years? I used either PC-7, in the red and black metal cans. I have not had any problems so far. Jon ___

Re: [Emc-users] Homann Designs ModIO, OT but related to topic

2020-02-07 Thread Jon Elson
On 02/07/2020 11:43 AM, N wrote: Are however not sure the westinghouse system is better there pressure is loaded then breaks are not used. First time I heard about the accident there an oil train have crashed then driver was sleeping and left engine on locomotive running I thought driver was

Re: [Emc-users] Open source CNC architecture

2020-02-04 Thread Jon Elson
On 02/04/2020 09:17 AM, andy pugh wrote: On Tue, 4 Feb 2020 at 15:20, Stuart Stevenson wrote: Aside from the stress and consternation in the LinuxCNC world about the logo I like the new name a lot better. Though it rather precludes a Mac port. Uhh, other than demo mode, I'm not sure what

Re: [Emc-users] Open source CNC architecture

2020-02-04 Thread Jon Elson
On 02/04/2020 09:17 AM, Stuart Stevenson wrote: EMC was purchased in 2016 by Dell. They no longer use the EMC(squared) logo as of 2016. All of the legal effort about the logo was probably done to help in the effort to sell the company and increase the sale value. So, it was all for nothing,

Re: [Emc-users] Linuxcnc 2.9.0 hangs

2020-02-02 Thread Jon Elson
On 02/02/2020 06:32 PM, Sebastian Kuzminsky wrote: So the problem started right after you upgraded to the new RTAI kernel? That's where I'd look for a problem first. Ohhh! I NEVER, EVER, update the kernel on a LinuxCNC system. In fact, I NEVER update the kernel on ANY Linux system

Re: [Emc-users] Linuxcnc 2.9.0 hangs

2020-02-02 Thread Jon Elson
On 02/02/2020 05:04 PM, Thomas D. Dean wrote: On 2020-02-01 20:46, Jon Elson wrote: On 02/01/2020 08:35 PM, Thomas D. Dean wrote: I have been using linuxcnc 2.9.0~Pre0 from sources, run in place. Until today, it has worked, mostly. Before today, about 2x per week it would freeze and I had

Re: [Emc-users] Open source CNC architecture

2020-02-02 Thread Jon Elson
On 02/02/2020 02:34 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: On Sunday 02 February 2020 14:14:16 Rafael Skodlar wrote: EMC (Enhanced Machine Control) seems to have fizzled out. No it hasn't, but the other emc objected to the name so it was changed to LinuxCNC, several years ago, and it sure as hell hasn't

Re: [Emc-users] Linuxcnc 2.9.0 hangs

2020-02-01 Thread Jon Elson
On 02/01/2020 08:35 PM, Thomas D. Dean wrote: I have been using linuxcnc 2.9.0~Pre0 from sources, run in place. Until today, it has worked, mostly. Before today, about 2x per week it would freeze and I had to cycle power to get it working. Now, linuxcnc freezes. Does it ONLY freeze when

Re: [Emc-users] ot - very neat

2020-01-29 Thread Jon Elson
On 01/29/2020 12:16 PM, grumpy--- via Emc-users wrote: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_wk3q8jWcs Hmmm, reminds me a bit of the ancient tracer mills from the dark ages. Jon ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net

Re: [Emc-users] Open source CNC architecture

2020-01-29 Thread Jon Elson
On 01/29/2020 12:27 AM, Chris Albertson wrote: The topic came up because someone asked if anyone was using LinuxCNC for large scale work. No one raised their hand. Why are they not using LinuxCNC to make transmission parts at the Toyota factory? It seems to be powering a few one-man shops

Re: [Emc-users] Real-time OS for machine controllers (Jon Elson)

2020-01-27 Thread Jon Elson
On 01/26/2020 11:09 PM, John Dammeyer wrote: Hi Jon, -Original Message- From: Jon Elson [mailto:el...@pico-systems.com] Sent: January-26-20 6:14 PM To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Real-time OS for machine controllers (Jon Elson) On 01/26/2020 08:04 PM

Re: [Emc-users] Real-time OS for machine controllers (Jon Elson)

2020-01-26 Thread Jon Elson
On 01/26/2020 08:04 PM, John Dammeyer wrote: Other than as an experiment is the BBB worth it? A big Bridgeport has the room for a full sized PC. A small Sherline maybe is better with something like a Beagle. Also, there are mini-ITX X-86 motherboards that run LinuxCNC very well. You can

Re: [Emc-users] Real-time OS for machine controllers (Jon Elson)

2020-01-26 Thread Jon Elson
On 01/26/2020 08:04 PM, John Dammeyer wrote: I set my BBB aside when the Xylotex cape I had forced normally open limit switches. The limit switch polarity can be set in software. In the configs file directory, in file CRAMPS.hal there is this : # Adjust as needed for your switch polarity

Re: [Emc-users] Real-time OS for machine controllers (Jon Elson)

2020-01-26 Thread Jon Elson
On 01/26/2020 06:14 PM, Alan Condit wrote: Jon, Machinekit has done some very nice things. Where they fall down is they seem to have no stable release model. It seems that anybody can change anything and there is no fallback to a stable release. I tried to build Machinekit for the RockPro64

Re: [Emc-users] Real-time OS for machine controllers

2020-01-26 Thread Jon Elson
On 01/26/2020 09:10 AM, andy pugh wrote: On Sun, 26 Jan 2020 at 05:34, bari wrote: I think NML is what turns off new developers. Most will never need to touch it. I never have, and I have been pretty deep inside LinuxCNC. NML has some inefficiencies, but does what is needed for single-node

Re: [Emc-users] Real-time OS for machine controllers

2020-01-26 Thread Jon Elson
On 01/26/2020 03:10 AM, John Dammeyer wrote: One can buy a CNC mill in Canada like this one for $27K https://www.kbctools.com/itemdetail/6-265-006-G23 Have you looked at Acorn CNC ? https://www.centroidcnc.com/centroid_diy/acorn_cnc_controller.html It is an amazingly inexpensive commercial

Re: [Emc-users] Real-time OS for machine controllers

2020-01-25 Thread Jon Elson
On 01/25/2020 01:38 AM, John Dammeyer wrote: I agree there are all sorts of ways of doing this. Only Peter at MESA or perhaps Jon could explain what they do but I don't know if it's proprietary to their hardware. Well, it is not real proprietary. I can only speak for the Pico Systems

Re: [Emc-users] Real-time OS for machine controllers

2020-01-25 Thread Jon Elson
On 01/24/2020 11:21 PM, R C wrote: That makes perfect sense if never anything goes wrong what if one motor stalls, what if one signal needs to be re-transmitted? If neither of that is corrected... one axis is off "time shifted" relative to the other. For precision sake, you would

Re: [Emc-users] Real-time OS for machine controllers

2020-01-24 Thread Jon Elson
On 01/23/2020 11:45 PM, John Dammeyer wrote: I really don't know what is going on under the covers for either the MESA Ethernet 7i92H or the Ethernet Smooth Stepper for MACH. But considering the power of the processors running machines back in the 90's or early 2000's and that the mechanics

Re: [Emc-users] Backlash comp monitoring

2020-01-24 Thread Jon Elson
On 01/23/2020 11:07 PM, David Berndt wrote: Hello All, I'm having a bit of an issue with some geometry not coming out as expected. I suspect it's related to backlash and cutting forces moving the table a bit but I don't have linear scales to monitor/correct for that sort of thing so I'm

Re: [Emc-users] Real-time OS for machine controllers

2020-01-23 Thread Jon Elson
On 01/23/2020 06:52 PM, R C wrote: I always wondered why FPGAs are(still?) that popular... Because you can develop quite a bit of custom logic on a $10 chip. One of my motion controller boards packs 4 quadrature counters capable of up to 5 million counts/second and 4 PWM generators with a 40

Re: [Emc-users] Real-time OS for machine controllers

2020-01-23 Thread Jon Elson
On 01/23/2020 03:42 PM, Andy Pugh wrote: On 23 Jan 2020, at 22:03, John Dammeyer wrote: It's likely the real number of LinuxCNC users is way way larger than one thinks. Might even exceed HAAS systems by an order of magnitude. I think PCW mentioned 10,000 boards of a particular type out

Re: [Emc-users] Real-time OS for machine controllers

2020-01-22 Thread Jon Elson
On 01/21/2020 11:55 PM, Chris Albertson wrote: Yes. I would not blindly recommend any of the RTOSes without a doing a more detailed design of the application. Nutx might be better. They are VERY different from Linux. Linux boots of a disk that allows you to run other independent apps.

Re: [Emc-users] homing

2020-01-21 Thread Jon Elson
On 01/21/2020 09:39 AM, dave engvall wrote: Specifically, I use a cheap laser diode and move manually or jog to preposition the X and Y to a specific place. I mounted a tab on the right lower side of the table and adjust position so there is a small penumbra around a hole in the tab.

Re: [Emc-users] OT - simple motor wiring

2020-01-21 Thread Jon Elson
On 01/21/2020 07:23 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: As a first try, I'd put the 4mfd cap in series with the black-red coil, but I'd also bring it up with a powerstat in case I'm wrong. If it runs weak and hot, move the cap to the other winding. Which ever runs cooler and with more torque is correct.

Re: [Emc-users] OT - simple motor wiring

2020-01-20 Thread Jon Elson
On 01/20/2020 08:36 AM, grumpy--- via Emc-users wrote: a friend gave me this gear motor he knows nothing about it and i can not find a wiring diagram i have confirmed with an ohm meter that the yellow and blue wires are connected and the red and black wires are connected Yes, you need a 4 uF

Re: [Emc-users] X forwarding with linux-cnc

2020-01-20 Thread Jon Elson
On 01/19/2020 11:42 PM, Rafael Skodlar wrote: Based on my research LinuxCNC is undesirable in production environments or as an option in new CNC products. I spent countless hours to find out if any CNC manufacturer is recommending or including LinuxCNC with their products. Most small to

Re: [Emc-users] who is building big cnc machines with linuxcnc

2020-01-19 Thread Jon Elson
On 01/19/2020 06:00 PM, Stuart Stevenson wrote: About a mile away is a few Cinci high speed 3 spindle 5 axis gantries. Each spindle has a 100 horse motor. I can imagine the power company could monitor and tell when they start. Yes, years ago at our university dorms, they had a 500 Hp electric

Re: [Emc-users] who is building big cnc machines with linuxcnc

2020-01-19 Thread Jon Elson
On 01/19/2020 12:38 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: I heard rumors of the uni calling when it was oscillating as their seizmo stuff was registering it. At the weight being moved I can imagine that scenario. Were you present? It certainly was not vibrating to that level when I was working on it. It

Re: [Emc-users] who is building big cnc machines with linuxcnc

2020-01-19 Thread Jon Elson
On 01/18/2020 11:50 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: In watching the Cinci 5 axis move, the impressive thing to me is how slow it moves. It is the same thing with why people get hit by trains. Their size fools you into thinking they are moving slowly, when they are actually moving faster than you

Re: [Emc-users] who is building big cnc machines with linuxcnc

2020-01-18 Thread Jon Elson
On 01/18/2020 01:14 PM, andrew beck wrote: Hi guys I was just wondering who here has retrofitted any big commercial machines with linuxcnc and who actually uses there machine to make parts everyday. I work in machine shops and am using fagor/ siemens/ controllers all the time. and I am

Re: [Emc-users] help with spindle speed

2020-01-15 Thread Jon Elson
On 01/15/2020 09:10 PM, Brent Loschen wrote: In addition to the split pulleys, my "mechanical" concerns are more along the lines of the heavy duty electrical contactors clunking every time the fixed speed, 3 phase AC spindle motor is called to switch back and forth; increased heat in the

Re: [Emc-users] A heads up on a product

2020-01-09 Thread Jon Elson
On 01/09/2020 11:24 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: Greetings all; Back in the middle of May 2019, I ordered, from newegg.com, three 240GB SSD's and 3 rosewill usb-3.1 to sata adapter cables so I could use them as std drives on my pi's. All of the rosewell adapters have now died. Called newegg, got

Re: [Emc-users] Actual Feed Rate

2020-01-08 Thread Jon Elson
On 01/08/2020 07:28 AM, Thomas D. Dean wrote: I am attempting to understand feed, etc. G91 G01 X 0.5000 F6 With feed override set to 50%, do I get an actual feed rate of F3? Yes. Jon ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net

Re: [Emc-users] question for Andy

2020-01-05 Thread Jon Elson
On 01/05/2020 10:32 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: I'm looking to replace my one side trashed BXA-250 series piston type post, obviously a no-name since theres none on it, and looking at the BOSTAR, I used a Phase-II AXA-sized piston post on my 10" and later on my 12" Atlas/Craftsman lathes with no

Re: [Emc-users] Fotek SSR

2019-12-19 Thread Jon Elson
On 12/19/2019 01:23 PM, andy pugh wrote: I have a bunch of Fotek SSRs, rated 385V / 40A. Possibly it's a fake 10A driver in a fake 40A SSR? In the race to the bottom, you have found that there IS NO BOTTOM! Jon ___ Emc-users mailing list

Re: [Emc-users] Servo and encoder specs. some help please.

2019-12-09 Thread Jon Elson
On 12/09/2019 07:27 AM, Todd Zuercher wrote: I contacted Electrocraft about them and they were kind of hesitant to share the info, because the motors were special order for an OE and they said they didn't have the exact winding data to share. But they did give me this (see attachment if it

Re: [Emc-users] Yaskawa Servopacks with Mesa

2019-12-04 Thread Jon Elson
On 12/04/2019 10:41 AM, Mark Johnsen wrote: Marius, You need to see what kind of encoder the Yaskawa motor has on it. I recall many of them were serial w/ a proprietary Yaskawa protocol, which would make it hard to run the encoder directly back to the mesa. Possibly, the servo pack has an

Re: [Emc-users] parallel port picie cards

2019-12-03 Thread Jon Elson
On 12/03/2019 09:19 PM, R C wrote: Hello, what would be a good PCIe card t use with linux-cnc, would any card that does ECP/EPP do? I use Syba PEX10005 cards with my FPGA controller boards, they seem to work well with a wide variety of motherboards. They are also relatively cheap. Jon

Re: [Emc-users] Smaller K on fleabay, whats wrong other than 4500lbs on pallet to ship?

2019-11-29 Thread Jon Elson
On 11/29/2019 01:30 PM, andy pugh wrote: On Fri, 29 Nov 2019 at 19:14, Gene Heskett wrote: Gotta be a catch. Nobody wants horizontal mills? Does it have a Z axis? I sure didn't see any handwheels for that. I'm assuming the one crank is the vertical (Y?) feed, and the X feed is probably

Re: [Emc-users] Wizards for LinuxCNC

2019-11-22 Thread Jon Elson
On 11/22/2019 12:00 AM, John Dammeyer wrote: So what can I tie into LinuxCNC that does the same thing? For very simple cleaning up the top of a part, I just use the arrow keys for constant feedrate, and my jog pendant to step down in Z by a specific amount (.010" or .020") For simple

Re: [Emc-users] Machine For Conversion?

2019-11-06 Thread Jon Elson
On 11/06/2019 12:32 PM, Todd Zuercher wrote: The seller who is the original owner says that the machine is tight and was in good operating condition when it was pulled from service 10 years ago. The machine was used primarily for mold making back in the day, so I'm pretty sure it has full 3

Re: [Emc-users] Detecting ESTOP and Machine ON/OFF in Axis user interface

2019-11-01 Thread Jon Elson
On 10/31/2019 11:20 PM, John Dammeyer wrote: I'm trying to find out what to put in the hal file that responds to the button press. None of the pins appear to change when I click on it and hold it down. Ie. Nothing appears to change to TRUE from FALSE. Or the other way around. The F1

Re: [Emc-users] installing linuxcnc

2019-10-30 Thread Jon Elson
On 10/30/2019 06:10 AM, andy pugh wrote: On Wed, 30 Oct 2019 at 05:53, R C wrote: I tried installing linuxcnc-stretch-uspace-amd64-r13.iso too, doesn't seem to work either. How are you writing the discs? I have a vague memory that the issues you are seeing occur when you copy the contents of

Re: [Emc-users] installing linuxcnc

2019-10-30 Thread Jon Elson
On 10/29/2019 08:45 PM, R C wrote: Hello all, I thought I'd try linuxcnc, and see howthat works. (I have a paxton/patterson mill and lathe that I haven't used in forever). I downloaded the linuxcnc iso and burned a disc, however it seems it wants another CD , or from what I read have

Re: [Emc-users] ESTOP and Machine Enable.

2019-10-29 Thread Jon Elson
On 10/28/2019 11:07 PM, John Dammeyer wrote: But the STMBL still has a serious issue with a FAULT output remaining while the STMBL ENABLE is FALSE. Personally I think that this is the wrong type of behaviour. If there are several devices wire OR'd together I think it's a requirement that if

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