Re: [Emc-users] ESTOP and Machine Enable.

2019-10-28 Thread Jon Elson
On 10/28/2019 12:07 PM, John Dammeyer wrote: How is the ESTOP chain enabled again on your machine? I would imagine you have a relay in series with the ESTOP button NC circuit? So if clicking the red estop icon button on LinuxCNC you'd break the ESTOP chain just like a servo fault? How do

Re: [Emc-users] ESTOP and Machine Enable.

2019-10-28 Thread Jon Elson
On 10/28/2019 01:36 AM, John Dammeyer wrote: Nice video and your ESTOP and Machine ENABLE work the way I'd like to have mine work. Except you didn’t show, and perhaps it can't, what happens if LinuxCNC sees a fault that causes it to assert the ESTOP in the same way as you pressing the

Re: [Emc-users] ESTOP and Machine Enable.

2019-10-27 Thread Jon Elson
On 10/27/2019 02:43 PM, John Dammeyer wrote: What exactly is the difference in LinuxCNC with the red ESTOP button and the orange Machine ENABLE button? This is a holdover from the original EMC days when it only handled analog servo systems. F1 would take you from E-stop to Machine-OFF,

Re: [Emc-users] hal syntax maybe?

2019-10-25 Thread Jon Elson
On 10/25/2019 11:01 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: I think the tied to servo-thread of the halscope, is causing it to lie to me. Because the pwmgens are running free, the lack of synch is creating some extra pulses at the on-off transitions. Had to stop and think about that one. Sure. Having Halscope

Re: [Emc-users] hal syntax maybe?

2019-10-25 Thread Jon Elson
On 10/25/2019 12:36 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: And they now show in a halconfig as: 12 bit IN FALSE hm2_5i25.0.pwmgen.00.enable 12 float IN 0 hm2_5i25.0.pwmgen.00.value 12 bit IN FALSE hm2_5i25.0.pwmgen.01.enable 12 float IN 0

Re: [Emc-users] Mesa Card Suggestions

2019-10-11 Thread Jon Elson
On 10/11/2019 02:56 PM, Todd Zuercher wrote: Thanks Jon, >From the sound of if, the powers that be are not going to let me convert this machine to Linuxcnc. They want to buy a new Wincnc PC. (The machine operators and myself would rather switch it over.) Oh well. Well, you can tell them

Re: [Emc-users] Mesa Card Suggestions

2019-10-09 Thread Jon Elson
On 10/09/2019 10:06 AM, Todd Zuercher wrote: Jon, What would be the approximate cost estimate for your setup? Oh, the two stepper controller boards can be "daisy-chained" on one parallel port. If you buy both at the same time, I will throw in the daisy chain cable for free. You will need

Re: [Emc-users] Mesa Card Suggestions

2019-10-09 Thread Jon Elson
On 10/09/2019 10:06 AM, Todd Zuercher wrote: Jon, What would be the approximate cost estimate for your setup? No, the VFDs are each set to same speeds, with a single analog output. That would be $550, for 2 ea. Universal Stepper Controllers and one Spindle DAC. Now, I can see a possible

Re: [Emc-users] Mesa Card Suggestions

2019-10-09 Thread Jon Elson
On 10/09/2019 08:49 AM, Todd Zuercher wrote: Hello, I'm considering converting a machine currently running Wincnc over to Linuxcnc. The Wincnc control has a pci card with two 37pin connectors, that are connected to a proprietary breakout board. (40 GPIO-in, 20GPIO-out+6step/dir pairs, and 1

Re: [Emc-users] Spindle Speed Control.

2019-10-05 Thread Jon Elson
On 10/05/2019 11:56 AM, John Dammeyer wrote: If you are controlling the speed of your spindle with LinuxCNC instead of just ON/OFF/DIR, how are you doing this? Well, on my Bridgeport mill, I use a spare channel of my analog DAC to deliver 0-10 V. On my minimill, I have the DC motor run

Re: [Emc-users] G-Code issue with IJ

2019-09-24 Thread Jon Elson
On 09/23/2019 10:35 PM, Chris Kelley wrote: I suspect the problem lies in the method for calculating CentDist on line 148. I'm not sure that method actually produces a I or J coordinate that is equidistant from both the start of the arc and end of the arc, regardless of decimal precision.

Re: [Emc-users] G-Code issue with IJ

2019-09-23 Thread Jon Elson
On 09/23/2019 10:29 AM, Chris Kelley wrote: I plotted out that snippet of code in AutoCAD and the coded arcs don't line up with the end points. I'm not great with C but looking through Jon's code I wonder if it has something to do with how it will never output an arc with both I and J

Re: [Emc-users] Lazarus cross platform tools for LinuxCNC

2019-09-23 Thread Jon Elson
On 09/23/2019 09:05 AM, Martin Dobbins wrote: Hi John Interesting project. Have you looked at Tormach's Path Pilot to see if it has any of the conversational features you are trying to achieve? Also, a bunch of these sort of widgets have been implemented in Python, and are available

Re: [Emc-users] G-Code issue with IJ

2019-09-23 Thread Jon Elson
On 09/22/2019 11:27 PM, John Dammeyer wrote: This is the G-Code generated by Jon's Makebore program that uses I J for the curves instead of R. Works like a charm when loaded and run with MACH3. The attached screen shot shows that LinuxCNC chokes on this. Suggestions as to why? N10 G01

Re: [Emc-users] Feasibility of moving from 2.5 to 2.8

2019-09-22 Thread Jon Elson
On 09/22/2019 06:36 PM, John Dammeyer wrote: My apologies. Separating the parameters with a ',' is not the correct way. A space must be used. Now compiled with RAD Studio XE7 C++ it works properly. Yes, a vestige of the original Pascal code, automatically converted to C with that quirk.

Re: [Emc-users] Feasibility of moving from 2.5 to 2.8

2019-09-22 Thread Jon Elson
On 09/22/2019 04:11 PM, John Dammeyer wrote: Hi Jon, Had to use an older WIN XP version to run the 32 bit version of the program for mbij.exe. I really recommend recompiling from source on a Linux system (like the one you run LinuxCNC on). The Windows executables are there for historical

Re: [Emc-users] Feasibility of moving from 2.5 to 2.8

2019-09-21 Thread Jon Elson
On 09/21/2019 05:04 PM, John Dammeyer wrote: What sort of tool bits, RPM, feeds, depth of cut do you use for 0.090 aluminium? I used to do a lot of control panels and such in .125" aluminum. My favorite cutter is a 4-flute solid carbide end mill, I get them on eBay for about $3 each when I

Re: [Emc-users] ADC - realtime for load cell

2019-09-18 Thread Jon Elson
On Tue, Sep 17, 2019 at 6:17 PM Chris Albertson wrote: If you want better than 16-bits and 1KHz then you also are going to need a very good quality analog signal conditioning and instrumentation amplifier. I've never heard of anybody getting 16-bit resolution from a load cell or strain gauge.

Re: [Emc-users] Input Line Filters?

2019-08-15 Thread Jon Elson
On 08/15/2019 04:21 PM, Todd Zuercher wrote: I am preparing to install a half dozen el cheapo Chinese VFDs on a machine. Any one have any idea if I need to or should be putting input line filters on them? No mention of anything like this in the Chinglish manual. If so how do you choose

Re: [Emc-users] EDM forms?

2019-07-30 Thread Jon Elson
On 07/30/2019 09:14 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: Greetings all; Like Jon said on the sheldon list. woodruff keys cut into a case hardened shaft are a bear. Carbide makes a mark, for about 5 seconds. So it appears I will have to dig the keyways by EDM. Because the electrode will go away too, what

Re: [Emc-users] Linuxcnc-application

2019-07-28 Thread Jon Elson
On 07/27/2019 10:09 PM, a k wrote: Hi I am interesting if linuxcnc can host different groups , like linuxcnc for application? Right now it is linuxcnc for lathe and mill. Cutting process not under the any questions ,so only linuxcnc ... What about if lcnc does something more complex than

Re: [Emc-users] looking for help on the best way to implement a Latching E stop circuit

2019-07-21 Thread Jon Elson
On 07/21/2019 06:08 AM, andrew beck wrote: I saw on Youtube what samco(skunkworks) samco is Sam Sokolik (father and son) They have a massive Kearney & Trecker horizontal mill in their garage. (I think his name is chris Radek) Chris Radek is also known as Timeguy. I can't help too much

Re: [Emc-users] Spindle control

2019-07-18 Thread Jon Elson
On 07/17/2019 08:56 PM, John Dammeyer wrote: Thanks Jon, I have lots of room under the pulley to mount something. Steel disk with slots and a hall sensor would easily do it. It's what I was going to do for simple RPM sensing into the Shumatch DRO with the reflective tape. Another project

Re: [Emc-users] Spindle control

2019-07-17 Thread Jon Elson
On 07/17/2019 03:51 PM, John Dammeyer wrote: There are a number of videos out there changing up the G0704 gear driven spindle to belt drive. Some use toothed belts, others a double set of pulleys. Most of the videos explain that they will soon but the slotted RPM sensor disk back on but for

Re: [Emc-users] Wanted, small engine whiz

2019-06-18 Thread Jon Elson
On 06/18/2019 11:37 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: My back gives me hell and theres times when my sciatics are pinched tight enough the legs don't do as they are told. I crunched a disc a while ago, and it was hell for six months or more. A few things I found that helped. One was, we have a piece

Re: [Emc-users] LinuxCNC Processor

2019-06-13 Thread Jon Elson
On 06/13/2019 12:42 PM, John Dammeyer wrote: So how many hours of labour for you to create a completely functional LinuxCNC with two parallel ports on 26 pin ribbon cable connectors that can be swapped into existing BoBs? Zero hours. There is Machinekit, which is a branch of LinuxCNC, that

Re: [Emc-users] LinuxCNC Processor

2019-06-13 Thread Jon Elson
On 06/13/2019 11:15 AM, John Dammeyer wrote: We've been discussing various kinds of modules to make a dedicated LinuxCNC processor. This may just be it. https://beagleboard.org/blog/2019-05-16-beaglebone-ai-preview https://beagleboard.org/ai With 4 PRUs to deal with the hardware the biggest

Re: [Emc-users] Dual boot for WIN-XP and LinuxCNC

2019-06-03 Thread Jon Elson
On 06/03/2019 10:02 AM, Dave Cole wrote: Mach4 is unknown to me and requires a phone home license. Is there a compelling reason to go there? Does this mean Mach4 will no longer run if Artsoft closes or changes their net address? Yikes, I sure would not want to be locked in like that! Jon

Re: [Emc-users] Dual boot for WIN-XP and LinuxCNC

2019-06-03 Thread Jon Elson
On 06/03/2019 01:00 AM, John Dammeyer wrote: I think you answered my question. The moment you have to use the MDI to do anything you are into the Linux world of do it from the command line. No, all machine controls I've ever seen had MDI. So, Allen-Bradley, Fanuc, Haas, etc. And, what you do

Re: [Emc-users] Dual boot for WIN-XP and LinuxCNC

2019-06-03 Thread Jon Elson
On 06/03/2019 12:27 AM, Andy Pugh wrote: On 2 Jun 2019, at 23:41, John Dammeyer wrote: LinuxCNC is still very much a command line type application compared to a WYSIWYG graphical application. I don’t think that is entirely true. Admittedly there are a lot of scripts in the background

Re: [Emc-users] Dual boot for WIN-XP and LinuxCNC

2019-06-03 Thread Jon Elson
On 06/02/2019 10:00 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: And creates a huge ground loop. The shielding on the motors drive cables should quit before it gets to the motor and the other end should be tied to ground at said bolt. Yup, exactly. They have NO IDEA what they are talking about. The encoder

Re: [Emc-users] Dual boot for WIN-XP and LinuxCNC

2019-06-01 Thread Jon Elson
On 06/01/2019 02:52 PM, John Dammeyer wrote: But it's turning out that the PCs I have show a latency of 25uS with on board video and go up to almost 100uS with 3 different low profile video boards. The stock motherboard video with WIN-XP can do 75Khz under MACH3. The Smooth Stepper can also

Re: [Emc-users] Dual boot for WIN-XP and LinuxCNC

2019-05-28 Thread Jon Elson
On 05/27/2019 11:54 PM, John Dammeyer wrote: I installed the linuxcnc-2.7.14-wheezy.iso I want to download putty so I can access the com1 port and talk to the DC Servo controller for diagnostics. Why would you use putty, which is really for Windows systems. I've NEVER seen putty used on

Re: [Emc-users] Atomic pi

2019-05-14 Thread Jon Elson
On 05/14/2019 11:46 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: On Tuesday 14 May 2019 12:03:34 pm John Dammeyer wrote: Why is there so much resistance to using the Beaglebone? Because it actually has very little in common with the intel code. It may be a good deal, but it also requires learning all about the

Re: [Emc-users] Atomic pi

2019-05-14 Thread Jon Elson
On 05/14/2019 11:03 AM, John Dammeyer wrote: Why is there so much resistance to using the Beaglebone? Or perhaps to say it another way, why would anyone even want to use a Pi when the Beagle has 1GHz processor and the two co-processors? Well, yes! The Bone, as supported by Linux, has pretty

Re: [Emc-users] velocity in world mode

2019-05-10 Thread Jon Elson
On 05/10/2019 06:33 AM, yomin estiven jaramillo munera wrote: in the world mode. My machine is able to move itself quickly in join mode but in world mode the velocity is very slow. How can i solve this??? what is the parameter that i should modify?? OK, does this have separate settings in

Re: [Emc-users] Looking fro some input from the community

2019-04-24 Thread Jon Elson
On 04/24/2019 08:45 AM, dave engvall wrote: Jon, You are making me feel old; just a fact of life. :-) IIRC I had the first PPMC board set out the door. Once one got the connector tied down that beastie was rock solid. The communication diagnostic was a life saver. Easy way to confirm that

Re: [Emc-users] Looking fro some input from the community

2019-04-24 Thread Jon Elson
On 04/24/2019 02:53 AM, Gregg Eshelman via Emc-users wrote: What about ECP mode, which requires DMA? ECP mode is great for long, continuous transfers, like a printer or scanner. For CNC motion control in the LinuxCNC scheme, there will be pretty short transfers in each direction, so the DMA

Re: [Emc-users] Looking fro some input from the community

2019-04-23 Thread Jon Elson
On 04/23/2019 09:05 PM, Joe Hildreth wrote: Jon, I guess you just have to 'love' standards huh? heh. Not to give away my age, but the last 'standard' I tried to decipher was NAPLPS. Well, that was a well-defined standard that never seemed to go anywhere. Now, overlook my ignorance here,

Re: [Emc-users] Looking fro some input from the community

2019-04-23 Thread Jon Elson
On 04/23/2019 11:21 AM, Joe Hildreth wrote: Jon, I make boards that use the parallel port as a communications channel for motion control. These use the IEEE-1284 (EPP) mode for faster communication. How do you test if a card works properly in EPP mode? This would be good information to add

Re: [Emc-users] Looking fro some input from the community

2019-04-22 Thread Jon Elson
OK, so the Siig dual-port PCI card is 131f : 2021 I'll try to get some of the other IDs shortly. Jon ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users

Re: [Emc-users] Looking fro some input from the community

2019-04-22 Thread Jon Elson
On 04/22/2019 10:07 PM, bari wrote: LSPCI https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lspci http://www.tutorialspoint.com/unix_commands/lspci.htm On 4/22/19 9:03 PM, Jon Elson wrote: Is there a way to show this P info on a running system? This is the normal report: 04:02.0 Parallel controller: Siig Inc

Re: [Emc-users] Looking fro some input from the community

2019-04-22 Thread Jon Elson
On 04/22/2019 09:58 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: On Monday 22 April 2019 22:03:21 Jon Elson wrote: Sorry, I don't have the Vendor ID and Device ID's handy at the moment. Is there a way to show this P info on a running system? Jon Generally, snooping thru dmesg will show you that as its

Re: [Emc-users] Looking fro some input from the community

2019-04-22 Thread Jon Elson
On 04/22/2019 05:35 PM, andy pugh wrote: What sets the base address of a card? Is it the card or the PC / BIOS? All PCI and PCIe cards use PCI enumeration, where the card can be forced to respond by slot during enumeration, and a block of ROM data giving a text string, Vendor ID and device

Re: [Emc-users] Looking fro some input from the community

2019-04-22 Thread Jon Elson
On 04/22/2019 02:44 PM, Joe Hildreth wrote: I would be more than happy to place a copy on the LinuxCNC wiki, forums and other places so that its usefulness can be fully realized. The fields of interest I am looking for are: Vendor ID: Device ID: Chipset: Manufacturer: Model: Notes (This will

Re: [Emc-users] milling tool life, or lack thereof.

2019-04-21 Thread Jon Elson
On 04/21/2019 02:20 PM, John Dammeyer wrote: The trick is to not get it hot enough to melt I guess. Watched a video the other day where, to make the video better he cut back the flood coolant a bit to better see what it was cutting and had an instant clog up of the mill. Yes, absolutely!

Re: [Emc-users] milling tool life, or lack thereof.

2019-04-21 Thread Jon Elson
On Sun, 21 Apr 2019 at 03:34, John Dammeyer wrote: I used the Machinist toolbox to figure out what sort of speed and feed I needed but ended up running the mill faster (thought I'd read it should be 3000 but it was supposed to be 2000). Typo error. OK. So tool bit 0.09375. Two flutes.

Re: [Emc-users] ER ATC tool idea

2019-04-20 Thread Jon Elson
On 04/20/2019 03:31 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: The only way I can be assured that a 3/4" shank of a TTS tool holder will not slip, rotating in the R8, is if I put an 8 point 5/16" socket in a 20 volt rattle wrench, and let it rattle for most of a second, And, that's why I don't use the TTS

Re: [Emc-users] ER ATC tool idea

2019-04-20 Thread Jon Elson
On 04/19/2019 09:55 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: I'm doing that now, for big ER's in that sheldon, but I had the G0704 spindle in mind, I've developed an abiding hate for R8's and their tool slippage. Hmmm, I've never had tool slippage with R8 end mill holders. I HAVE had slippage on a few

Re: [Emc-users] Fwd: Re: ER ATC tool idea

2019-04-19 Thread Jon Elson
On 04/19/2019 09:01 AM, Ken Strauss wrote: A number of firms manufacture solid, ER16 dimensioned, "collets" that are heat shrunk onto cutters. I'm curious if they can be removed by quickly heating the solid collet with an induction heater. Yes, that's the trick, QUICKLY heat the holder, and

Re: [Emc-users] ER ATC tool idea

2019-04-19 Thread Jon Elson
-Original Message- From: Gregg Eshelman via Emc-users [mailto:emc- us...@lists.sourceforge.net] Sent: Friday, April 19, 2019 3:23 AM To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) Cc: Gregg Eshelman Subject: Re: [Emc-users] ER ATC tool idea I wonder if any company machines set screw

Re: [Emc-users] Hardware emcmot?

2019-04-12 Thread Jon Elson
On 04/12/2019 05:39 AM, Nicklas Karlsson wrote: I have been thinking in similar paths, there is NML communication between parts. Then trying to separate I got the impression maybe real time part work but axis did not work properly. I also get the impression real time performance have gotten

Re: [Emc-users] nother probably silly Q

2019-04-12 Thread Jon Elson
On 04/12/2019 12:21 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: It uses the phrase "digital operator" which could translate to its own front panel. Yes, that is the usual term for the plug-in front panel. That panel can be removed once the device is configured. I assume that config changes are retained over

Re: [Emc-users] Nice manual lathe in WA (assume WA USA not WA AU)

2019-04-11 Thread Jon Elson
On 04/10/2019 08:42 PM, Tom Easterday wrote: 4 Sheldon lathes being sold in SE Michigan. Short notice but came across this by accident and I recalled this thread talking about Sheldon lathes... https://toledo.craigslist.org/tls/d/temperance-14-sheldon-6-jaw-lathe/6853491715.html I didn't see

Re: [Emc-users] Leaving an axis out of the home sequence AND (continued:)

2019-04-10 Thread Jon Elson
On 04/10/2019 10:05 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: And if I copy the ini to one with no A references in it, do I also have separate .hal files, or does hal ignore the A references? Or do you have 3 hal files? A basic, and a load vertical and a load horizontal? Yes, you would have an .ini and at least

Re: [Emc-users] Leaving an axis out of the home sequence AND (continued:)

2019-04-10 Thread Jon Elson
On 04/09/2019 10:47 PM, John Dammeyer wrote: The question then is whether or not the system, when starting can/will recognize an input which is a unit present signal. Can not the HAL files be set up to #include other files? So based on an input select one of two HAL sub files to load. One

Re: [Emc-users] Leaving an axis out of the home sequence AND (continued:)

2019-04-10 Thread Jon Elson
On 04/09/2019 10:16 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: And the interlock needs to know if the loaded code contains an A|B|C move. OK, now this is going beyond the capabilities of LinuxCNC as it is. I think the best way to handle this is to have two configs. If you ever load a G-code file with an A move

Re: [Emc-users] Leaving an axis out of the home sequence AND (continued:)

2019-04-10 Thread Jon Elson
On 04/09/2019 08:31 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: Greetings all; out of the logic that determines whether the machine will run gcode when that A axis has not been homed because its unplugged, off the machine and stored and either is unhomed, or was never homed since this power up. How is this best

Re: [Emc-users] Emc-users Digest, Vol 156, Issue 17

2019-04-09 Thread Jon Elson
On 04/09/2019 08:40 AM, Roland Jollivet wrote: This would be very useful. I have about 12 Yaskawa motors and drives on 2 robots that I could make use of if I could make the absolute encoder data readable in Linuxcnc.. Rudy * Hi Rudy I have recently acquired a

Re: [Emc-users] Radio station stories -- Was RE: Posting order

2019-04-02 Thread Jon Elson
On 04/02/2019 03:25 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: The powerstat was losing contact at the slip ring. I put the circuit in straight thru connection and took the stat out and apart to find that ring burnt to ashes. A sliding contact, on alu? Boggles the mind. A sliding ELECTRICAL POWER contact on

Re: [Emc-users] Radio station stories -- Was RE: Posting order

2019-04-01 Thread Jon Elson
On 04/01/2019 11:27 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: I'd have done the same, except I'd have added a flyback diode across the solenoid to absorb the shutoff pulse from the solenoid. Perhaps with a small r in series to absorb more of the stored energy in the R. I'm pretty sure the diode must have been

Re: [Emc-users] Radio station stories -- Was RE: Posting order

2019-04-01 Thread Jon Elson
On 04/01/2019 06:24 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: It once took me around 3 years to find an engineering goofup by Chyron. Well, here's one crazy fault that I finally debugged. It was a rack-mount mag tape controller for a PDP-11, made by Datum. Basically one huge 15" square board in an aluminum 3U

Re: [Emc-users] Home-limit switch measuring

2019-03-31 Thread Jon Elson
On 03/31/2019 08:59 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: Greetings everybody; I think I've got the coolant pump starting problem fixed. Ignore that faint knocking sound. Now I would like to use a teeny little pushbutton (6x6x2.5mm tall) between two solid parts of this machine for home and potentially as

Re: [Emc-users] chinese vfd is driving me bonkers.

2019-03-28 Thread Jon Elson
On 03/28/2019 04:24 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: This one has a PM rotor, and it all runs in the bore of a potted stator, which I assume has a shaded pole lashup for starting. I not shaded pole, then it will run synchronously, either direction. If if runs at all. Yes, the pumps in our washing

Re: [Emc-users] chinese vfd is driving me bonkers.

2019-03-28 Thread Jon Elson
On 03/27/2019 08:08 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: I found a 110 volt 3hp vfd on fleabay for a good price, but ATM there is NOT a single 110 volt submersible spindle coolant pump listed. Damn I wish fleabay actually had a search engine. Look for "Little Giant" brand, that's what I use on my flood

Re: [Emc-users] For those who do not read the forum:

2019-03-26 Thread Jon Elson
On 03/26/2019 05:43 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: On Tuesday 26 March 2019 11:06:16 andy pugh wrote: Something that you might have missed is a bunch of new GUIs that are being developed: https://youtu.be/mb0nZEqhsS8 The ATC screen is super-fancy: https://youtu.be/6Xxjk1UnpnI Then Kurt and Jon are

Re: [Emc-users] Mister/Coolant

2019-03-25 Thread Jon Elson
On 03/25/2019 02:47 PM, Marshland Engineering wrote: Just spent 2-3 years wondering why I kept getting sick so often and sometimes coughing for 3-4 hours a day. (I'm a non smoker and otherwise healthy) I spent most of the weekend machining aly blocks with coolant splashing all over the place on

Re: [Emc-users] ConFusion 360

2019-03-24 Thread Jon Elson
On 03/24/2019 07:14 PM, andy pugh wrote: On Mon, 25 Mar 2019 at 00:06, Chris Albertson wrote: There is another way to run Fusion without Windows that works even better. Run it on MacOS. I have 27" iMac. That's been my solution. In fact I actually do the majority of my _LinuxCNC_

Re: [Emc-users] EDA Software (Was: ConFusion 360)

2019-03-24 Thread Jon Elson
On 03/23/2019 10:52 PM, Alan Condit wrote: Gregg, This isn’t exactly what you were asking for, but it might work. CRAMPS-BOB3-a3 It is for the CRAMPS board. Instead of the step/dir/common pins going to a Polulu board, the are shipped over to the

Re: [Emc-users] Wish me luck. I am downloading v.18 of freecad as src, gonna see if I can build a 32 bit version

2019-03-24 Thread Jon Elson
On 03/23/2019 08:37 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: Cheers, Gene Heskett Well, it may not be the best thing to run the VERY latest version. I found FreeCAD to work pretty well, but the CAM side would hang up and do odd things. I was probably using too fresh of a major update version. Jon

Re: [Emc-users] Fusion 360

2019-03-23 Thread Jon Elson
On 03/23/2019 11:52 AM, Greg Bernard wrote: Now that I'm retired and no longer have access to Autocad I'm using Draftsight for all of my 2d work which is practically indistinguishable from Autocad with the advantage of being free and running on Linux. Wow, you need to read this web page :

Re: [Emc-users] ConFusion 360

2019-03-23 Thread Jon Elson
On 03/23/2019 01:34 PM, Moses McKnight wrote: On 3/23/19 1:16 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: ... Gotta learn geda and friends I guess. If you're trying EDA software, I found Kicad to be far easier to learn and use than Eagle or Geda - and it's quite powerful these days. I still run an

Re: [Emc-users] Fusion 360

2019-03-22 Thread Jon Elson
On 03/22/2019 05:46 PM, Bruce Layne wrote: AutoDesk had done that to me before. They sold me on AutoSketch which, as an electrical engineer was all of the mechanical CAD software I'd need. Then they discontinued AutoSketch at the moment that I learned enough to be productive and

Re: [Emc-users] Fusion 360

2019-03-22 Thread Jon Elson
On 03/22/2019 07:42 PM, Lester Caine wrote: On 22/03/2019 23:28, Bruce Layne wrote: I'm still running FreeCAD 0.16, which is over a year old 0.18 is available but not released formally and has some VERY useful additions, I tried 0.18 (I think) maybe too soon after release, and while the CAD

Re: [Emc-users] Fusion 360

2019-03-22 Thread Jon Elson
On 03/22/2019 04:14 PM, Jeff Johnson wrote: Anyone on here have opinions on Fusion 360 Cad/Cam by Autodesk? We just got set up with Autocad Inventor at work. While very capable, and it has lots of good CAM strategies, it is SO COMPLICATED! We have one guy here who got good with it, so I

Re: [Emc-users] Interesting motor construction

2019-03-22 Thread Jon Elson
On 03/22/2019 10:25 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: I hope you got the driver for it with it. Dissecting that into a schematic might reveal some secrets. Likewise, I think I'd be looking for a way to get the encoders full resolution out of it as .01 degrees sounds a bit coarse. .01 degrees is 36,000

Re: [Emc-users] Interesting motor construction

2019-03-22 Thread Jon Elson
On 03/22/2019 07:39 AM, andy pugh wrote: A recent (ish) acquisition was an NSK Megatorque (RS1010, which means 10" dia and 10" long) This is rated at 147Nm (108 lb f) torque and for an axial load of 9500N (2100lbf) so is quite a beast. Currently I am using it as a glorified protractor to

Re: [Emc-users] Spindle motor coolant advice needed

2019-03-15 Thread Jon Elson
On 03/15/2019 02:34 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: Greetings all; I've had the coolant tank filled with distilled water for about a month now, and its turning the hoses faintly reddish, like copper. I don't want to put a deionizer on it to keep it up in perfect insulation since a bypass cartridge is a

Re: [Emc-users] STM32 Blue Pill --> distance between pins

2019-03-13 Thread Jon Elson
On 03/12/2019 10:25 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: Here, I don't think I communicated that my problems were in the math to properly space the slots the ATS-667's were nestled in. Purely a mechanical mistake in carving the slots they hide in. I didn't grok that half a tooth spacing was actually 180

Re: [Emc-users] linuxcnc brain surgery

2019-03-11 Thread Jon Elson
On 03/11/2019 02:13 PM, andy pugh wrote: On Mon, 11 Mar 2019 at 16:43, Jon Elson wrote: On 03/10/2019 11:07 PM, TJoseph Powderly wrote: https://ciis.lcsr.jhu.edu/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=courses:446:2016:446-2016-18:project_18_main_page Oh...MYGod!! It is laser-cutting skull repair parts

Re: [Emc-users] More cheap solar. Re: OT: Where's them fires. [Was: Re Conversational mode.

2019-03-11 Thread Jon Elson
On 03/11/2019 09:47 AM, Dave Matthews wrote: That looks way too good to be true so it probably isn't. REALLY! 15 panels plus inverter, $89 with FREE shipping from Hong Kong?!?!? We will have to watch that and see if it gets pulled. These are unframed panels, so you'd need to come up with a

Re: [Emc-users] OT: Where's them fires. [Was: Re Conversational mode.

2019-03-11 Thread Jon Elson
On 03/11/2019 01:34 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: On Monday 11 March 2019 01:56:40 Greg Bernard wrote: Thanks once again, Jon. I've slowly been coming to the same conclusion, though lacking the detailed knowledge as you. The part that concerns me the most however is your caveat of being "run by a

Re: [Emc-users] OT: Where's them fires. [Was: Re Conversational mode.

2019-03-11 Thread Jon Elson
On 03/11/2019 12:56 AM, Greg Bernard wrote: Thanks once again, Jon. I've slowly been coming to the same conclusion, though lacking the detailed knowledge as you. The part that concerns me the most however is your caveat of being "run by a competent organization". ;) Well, this is a KEY part!

Re: [Emc-users] linuxcnc brain surgery

2019-03-11 Thread Jon Elson
On 03/10/2019 11:07 PM, TJoseph Powderly wrote: https://ciis.lcsr.jhu.edu/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=courses:446:2016:446-2016-18:project_18_main_page but where does the LinuxCNC Rocket Science class meet? Oh...MYGod!! Well, NIST did a system for ultrasonic inspection of C-5 aircraft with a

Re: [Emc-users] OT: Where's them fires. [Was: Re Conversational mode.

2019-03-10 Thread Jon Elson
On 03/10/2019 09:57 PM, Przemek Klosowski wrote: On Sat, Mar 9, 2019 at 10:26 PM Gene Heskett wrote: Leave it to humans with no concept of common sense, but lots of don't rock the boat rules and you get TMI, Chernobyl, and Fukushima. And probably 100 more lessor 'accidents' we haven't been

Re: [Emc-users] OT: Where's them fires. [Was: Re Conversational mode.

2019-03-10 Thread Jon Elson
On 03/10/2019 04:16 PM, Greg Bernard wrote: Interesting stuff, Jon. Didn't know about the ongoing cleanup at Three Mile but it doesn't surprise me. Now I'm going to put you on the spot. Given our current need for carbon-free energy, do you see nuclear as a viable option? Yes! If a properly

Re: [Emc-users] STM32 Blue Pill --> distance between pins

2019-03-10 Thread Jon Elson
On 03/10/2019 01:24 PM, Nicklas Karlsson wrote: On Sun, 10 Mar 2019 11:57:53 -0500 Jon Elson wrote: Charles Steinkuehler wrote a general driver for Machinekit that uses the PRU for step generation, PWM and encoder input. But why use a PRU then this kind of hardware is usually part

Re: [Emc-users] OT: Where's them fires. [Was: Re Conversational mode.

2019-03-10 Thread Jon Elson
On 03/10/2019 12:41 PM, Greg Bernard wrote: Wow, Jon! That was the best analysis of those disasters I've ever read. Maybe you should consider a career as a science writer! I got real interested in Chernobyl and read up a LOT about it. I also got a most INCREDIBLE tour of our nearest

Re: [Emc-users] STM32 Blue Pill --> distance between pins

2019-03-10 Thread Jon Elson
On 03/10/2019 05:18 AM, Nicklas Karlsson wrote: Hey Chris, AFAIK, the Pi has better HDMI support compared to the Beagle but then it was designed more for multimedia. The Beagle PRUs have the advantage that they have access to some of the Beagle Processor RAM. That gives them a bit of an

Re: [Emc-users] OT: Where's them fires. [Was: Re Conversational mode.

2019-03-10 Thread Jon Elson
On 03/10/2019 04:29 AM, Andrew wrote: Have any of us taken a geiger counter to the grocery store and checked the bagged or canned tuna lately? If I could find one I could afford, I would have long ago, but even junk thats for parts is half a kilobuck. If you think tuna might be bad, check your

Re: [Emc-users] OT: Where's them fires. [Was: Re Conversational mode.

2019-03-10 Thread Jon Elson
On Saturday 09 March 2019 23:43:26 Gregg Eshelman via Emc-users wrote: The one problem I see as being really troublesome with the design of Fukushima is that it apparently was incapable of being fully self powering of all its systems at any time. No, not true. They had at least SEVEN

Re: [Emc-users] OT: Where's them fires. [Was: Re Conversational mode.

2019-03-10 Thread Jon Elson
On 03/09/2019 10:43 PM, Gregg Eshelman via Emc-users wrote: But such systems have existed for 30+ years. Many types of factories and plants use computer screens with graphical schematics and readouts of all the critical things. Operators can point and click to open and close valves, adjust

Re: [Emc-users] OT: Where's them fires. [Was: Re Conversational mode.

2019-03-10 Thread Jon Elson
On 03/09/2019 09:23 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: Unfortunately for us, the sun has its own way of balanceing things and it generally Just Works. Thank $Diety its not big enough to nova, but will end ts life in 5 billion years as a bettelgues? lookalike. No, Betelgeuse is 30 solar masses, and will

Re: [Emc-users] LCNC logic

2019-03-09 Thread Jon Elson
On 03/09/2019 12:05 PM, a k wrote: hi i am interesting in LCNC logic - how it work for situation when LCNC command to axis to move 4" , and in case if axis moved only 3" ,for any reason like 1- axis hit obstacle; 2- power wire broke; question-- how LCNC knows that need E-STOP? If your servo

Re: [Emc-users] CANopen: SOEM/SOES, CANfestival, anything more?

2019-03-09 Thread Jon Elson
On 03/09/2019 07:05 AM, Nicklas Karlsson wrote: I will look at it, Machinekit use older version of Linuxcnc? or have caught up? Machinekit has diverged from LinuxCNC a bit, but it is not all that old. It has many of the important updates from a few years ago, like the trajectory planner.

Re: [Emc-users] I hate to admit it, but I found the problem with the rpi v sheldon.

2019-03-08 Thread Jon Elson
On 03/07/2019 10:13 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: Embarrassing is what it is... Well, I've made some seriously embarrassing mistakes too! Some of them even involved a little bit of blood being spilled. Jon ___ Emc-users mailing list

Re: [Emc-users] Nuther air problem.

2019-03-07 Thread Jon Elson
On 03/06/2019 09:53 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: On Wednesday 06 March 2019 22:13:33 jrmitchellj wrote: The icemaker hose around here is typically 1/4" id (or 6mm). Same as I found on the pegboards around here, Darn it. That stuff isn't made for long term flexibility anyway, too hard. But thanks

Re: [Emc-users] Nuther air problem.

2019-03-07 Thread Jon Elson
On 03/06/2019 09:13 PM, jrmitchellj wrote: The icemaker hose around here is typically 1/4" id (or 6mm). I think it is 1/4" OD, not ID. Jon ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net

Re: [Emc-users] Conversational Mode

2019-03-04 Thread Jon Elson
On 03/04/2019 03:29 AM, Marshland Engineering wrote: The SWI has a conversation mode. I can center on a part using the DRO and the hand wheels, I then create an Absolute Zero. From then on I can do Bolt Holes, pockets, circles etc using that absolute zero as the reference. On top of that when I

Re: [Emc-users] ac servo motor nema34

2019-03-03 Thread Jon Elson
On 03/03/2019 07:23 PM, a k wrote: hi i did not look for servo motor for long time. in 2004 i did buy motor from servodinamics. and it was it. motor not good now is there source-distributors of similar low cost motors -- Check with automation technologies :

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