Re: [Emc-users] A lot of input/output. Cheap

2015-09-23 Thread Sven Wesley
2015-09-22 22:06 GMT+02:00 Dave Cole : > > > I would avoid putting the machine vertical unless you have no choice. > The machine likely is setup for ejectors that push the molded parts out > so they can drop down. > > It will also mess with your mold heat control since you

Re: [Emc-users] A lot of input/output. Cheap

2015-09-23 Thread Karlsson & Wang
> I've owned this machine quite a while, I know how it works. I'm not new in > the plastics arena as I started moulding in the early 90's. > This particular machine is made for vertical moulding, I can flip it as it > is. It takes me 15 minutes to re-arrange the setup for verticals and it > runs

Re: [Emc-users] A lot of input/output. Cheap

2015-09-22 Thread Dave Cole
On 9/22/2015 3:45 AM, Sven Wesley wrote: > 2015-09-21 9:24 GMT+02:00 alex chiosso : > >> Hi Sven. >> Can you send a picture of the machine you have to retrofit ? >> Is it an injection moulding machine ? >> If yes how many tons is the closing clamp force and how many heating

Re: [Emc-users] A lot of input/output. Cheap

2015-09-22 Thread Sven Wesley
2015-09-21 9:24 GMT+02:00 alex chiosso : > Hi Sven. > Can you send a picture of the machine you have to retrofit ? > Is it an injection moulding machine ? > If yes how many tons is the closing clamp force and how many heating zones > have the injection barrel/chamber ? > >

Re: [Emc-users] A lot of input/output. Cheap

2015-09-22 Thread Karlsson & Wang
> > Hi Sven. > > Can you send a picture of the machine you have to retrofit ? > > Is it an injection moulding machine ? > > If yes how many tons is the closing clamp force and how many heating zones > > have the injection barrel/chamber ? > > > > Regards. > > > > Alex > > > > Here you go. >

Re: [Emc-users] A lot of input/output. Cheap

2015-09-21 Thread alex chiosso
sday, September 15, 2015 6:12 AM > > To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) > > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] A lot of input/output. Cheap > > > > 2015-09-15 14:16 GMT+02:00 andy pugh <bodge...@gmail.com>: > > > >> On 15 September 2015 at 13:03, Carsten Pre

Re: [Emc-users] A lot of input/output. Cheap (Profibus)

2015-09-21 Thread Karlsson & Wang
> > > I think your suggestion with the HAL/Arduino library will be the cheapest > > > possible and more than good for this application, I will try it for sure! > > > With some small tweaks it will be fine for a Mega board and I should have > > > enough I/O. > > > Thanks! > > > > > > /S Profibus

Re: [Emc-users] A lot of input/output. Cheap (Profibus)

2015-09-21 Thread Peter Blodow
Gentlemen, be careful with Profibus, there are different tastes of it. Especially the one designed for building automation will not very well suit our needs. But, certainly, this is highly professional technology, extremely noise proof even at long distances of several hundred meters. Peter Am

Re: [Emc-users] A lot of input/output. Cheap (Profibus)

2015-09-21 Thread Karlsson & Wang
> Gentlemen, > be careful with Profibus, there are different tastes of it. Especially > the one designed for building automation will not very well suit our > needs. But, certainly, this is highly professional technology, extremely > noise proof even at long distances of several hundred meters.

Re: [Emc-users] A lot of input/output. Cheap (Profibus)

2015-09-21 Thread Dave Cole
I have used a lot of Profibus devices. I used to work for Siemens. Profibus is very robust if installed properly.DP is the norm for remote I/O. PA is designed for the process industry and not nearly as common. I always thought that a chip was needed for a DP master.I don't think a DP

Re: [Emc-users] A lot of input/output. Cheap (Profibus)

2015-09-21 Thread Karlsson & Wang
> I have used a lot of Profibus devices. I used to work for Siemens. > Profibus is very robust if installed properly.DP is the norm for > remote I/O. > PA is designed for the process industry and not nearly as common. > > I always thought that a chip was needed for a DP master.I don't >

[Emc-users] A lot of input/output. Cheap

2015-09-15 Thread Sven Wesley
Yo! I have this old injection moulder and the electric mayhem has degraded to a point were I need to either throw out the machine or rebuild. The machine is mechanically in good shape so I lean towards the latter. There are a billion of limit switches and the hydraulic system is managed by

Re: [Emc-users] A lot of input/output. Cheap

2015-09-15 Thread Dave Cole
I do a lot of PLC programming and have used Automation Direct PLCs as I/O / Controllers attached to LinuxCNC via Modbus RTU. The Click series of PLCs are cheap and they have relay output cards. However if you have a lot of I/O and need auxilary control besides remote I/O to LinuxCNC, I think

Re: [Emc-users] A lot of input/output. Cheap

2015-09-15 Thread andy pugh
On 15 September 2015 at 07:53, Sven Wesley wrote: > What cheap solution do I have to play with? What do you call "a lot" of IO? If you want more than 1000 IO lines then I think Mesa might be best. Do you need realtime? An Arduino Mega and Jeff's Arduino library would

Re: [Emc-users] A lot of input/output. Cheap

2015-09-15 Thread Sven Wesley
Oh no, real time not needed. I would say there are maybe 40 switches right now and probably 20-25 hydro valves. With some better placement and logic I think probably half of the switches could be passed to the bin (you should see the electric wiring...). I can easily run the entire machine with an

Re: [Emc-users] A lot of input/output. Cheap

2015-09-15 Thread Carsten Presser
Hi, the big advantage of the mesa-boards is that they are well suited to drive relays and other kinds of devices. An Arduino or similar board only has TTL or CMOS IOs which need to get adapted to your actual IO voltages/currents. Parallel Ports also need some additional protection/drivers to

Re: [Emc-users] A lot of input/output. Cheap

2015-09-15 Thread andy pugh
On 15 September 2015 at 12:02, Sven Wesley wrote: > I can easily run the entire machine with an Arduino and relay boards. But > my plan was to use the Classic Ladder and use a GUI panel for timer > settings, showing states etc. I was suggesting using the Arduino to HAL

Re: [Emc-users] A lot of input/output. Cheap

2015-09-15 Thread andy pugh
On 15 September 2015 at 13:03, Carsten Presser wrote: > the big advantage of the mesa-boards is that they are well suited to > drive relays and other kinds of devices. > An Arduino or similar board only has TTL or CMOS IOs which need to get > adapted to your actual IO

Re: [Emc-users] A lot of input/output. Cheap

2015-09-15 Thread John Thornton
If you need help with ClassicLadder I'm fairly good at ladder logic. JT On 9/15/2015 6:02 AM, Sven Wesley wrote: > Oh no, real time not needed. I would say there are maybe 40 switches right > now and probably 20-25 hydro valves. With some better placement and logic I > think probably half of the

Re: [Emc-users] A lot of input/output. Cheap

2015-09-15 Thread John Thornton
ery clean and complete > ladder logic, with good state machine methods. > > -- Ralph > > From: Sven Wesley [svenne.d...@gmail.com] > Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2015 6:12 AM > To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) > Subject: Re: [Emc-us

Re: [Emc-users] A lot of input/output. Cheap

2015-09-15 Thread Sven Wesley
2015-09-15 14:16 GMT+02:00 andy pugh : > On 15 September 2015 at 13:03, Carsten Presser wrote: > > > the big advantage of the mesa-boards is that they are well suited to > > drive relays and other kinds of devices. > > An Arduino or similar board only

Re: [Emc-users] A lot of input/output. Cheap

2015-09-15 Thread Andrew
2015-09-15 16:12 GMT+03:00 Sven Wesley : > and the Arduino board, still for less money than one 7i90. But I prefer > opto isolated heavy duty solid state relays for this instead of tiny > mechanical relays on a small board. You should see the relay panel inside > the

Re: [Emc-users] A lot of input/output. Cheap

2015-09-15 Thread Ralph Stirling
From: Sven Wesley [svenne.d...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2015 6:12 AM To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) Subject: Re: [Emc-users] A lot of input/output. Cheap 2015-09-15 14:16 GMT+02:00 andy pugh <bodge...@gmail.com>: > On 15 September 2015 at 13:03