Re: [Emc-users] Clausing NC Spindle drive belt tension and noise.

2022-07-04 Thread dave engvall
Indeed! Poly-Vee belts are acceptably quiet but of course then you need to rig an encoder. Probably a decent trade  off.  Available, not too expensive, transfer power well and seem to last. Years ago I made both of my pulleys. Dave On 7/4/22 10:05 AM, andy pugh wrote: On Mon, 4 Jul 2022 at

Re: [Emc-users] Clausing NC Spindle drive belt tension and noise.

2022-07-04 Thread Chris Albertson
You need t take several steps 1) verify the belt and pulleys have the same tooth profile. They need to match exactly. 2) if the profile is "square teeth" then yes, these are noisy. Decide if you want to spend the $$ to change the profile because no amount of adjustment will make a square tooth

Re: [Emc-users] Clausing NC Spindle drive belt tension and noise.

2022-07-04 Thread BRIAN GLACKIN
Regarding belt tension. Goal is to get engagement with the minimum amount of tension. This ensures the bearings on motor and driven pulley shafts are not overloaded. I work with very large bearing and or bushed machines. (Crushing equipment). Standard rule of thumb is 1/64” of deflection per

Re: [Emc-users] Clausing NC Spindle drive belt tension and noise.

2022-07-04 Thread andy pugh
On Mon, 4 Jul 2022 at 17:04, John Figie wrote: > > https://www.roll-ring.com/?lang=en > > > Andy, That is a nice idea. However in my case I don't think I would > have clearance. It could go at the bottom, nearer the drive motor. The belt on my Holbrook is a rather wide poly-vee. Very quiet. I

Re: [Emc-users] Clausing NC Spindle drive belt tension and noise.

2022-07-04 Thread gene heskett
On 7/4/22 12:03, John Figie wrote: John Figie On Mon, Jul 4, 2022 at 9:02 AM gene heskett wrote: Having watched and listened to the movie, I'm of the opinion the tooth profile of the belt doesn't match the pulleys. Whether that's from wear, or tooth profile miss-match yet to be determined.

Re: [Emc-users] Clausing NC Spindle drive belt tension and noise.

2022-07-04 Thread John Dammeyer
That's pretty cool! John > -Original Message- > From: andy pugh [mailto:bodge...@gmail.com] > Sent: July-04-22 2:06 AM > To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Clausing NC Spindle drive belt tension and noise. > > On Mon, 4 Jul 2022 at 0

Re: [Emc-users] Clausing NC Spindle drive belt tension and noise.

2022-07-04 Thread Scott Harwell via Emc-users
If it quiets down with pressure applied to the back of the belt, something like this might do the trick. NewYall Serpentine Accessory - Tensor de correa | | | | | | | | | | | NewYall Serpentine Accessory - Tensor de correa Tensor de correa de transmisión de accesorios serpentina |

Re: [Emc-users] Clausing NC Spindle drive belt tension and noise.

2022-07-04 Thread John Figie
John Figie On Mon, Jul 4, 2022 at 9:02 AM gene heskett wrote: > > > Having watched and listened to the movie, I'm of the opinion the tooth > profile of the belt doesn't match the pulleys. Whether that's from wear, or > tooth profile miss-match yet to be determined. I think the belt is pretty

Re: [Emc-users] Clausing NC Spindle drive belt tension and noise.

2022-07-04 Thread andy pugh
On Mon, 4 Jul 2022 at 15:02, gene heskett wrote: > > https://www.roll-ring.com/?lang=en > > > That's a decent idea, but I would not use it anyplace where the additional > backlash would be detrimental. It doesn't add any backlash, but nor does it reduce it at all. -- atp "A motorcycle is a

Re: [Emc-users] Clausing NC Spindle drive belt tension and noise.

2022-07-04 Thread gene heskett
On 7/4/22 05:10, andy pugh wrote: On Mon, 4 Jul 2022 at 05:55, Roland Jollivet wrote: If the noise is from the belt whipping, then lightly press a rod, or two, on the back of the belt to see the effect on the noise If you have a 3D printer, you could try making a floating tensioner:

Re: [Emc-users] Clausing NC Spindle drive belt tension and noise.

2022-07-04 Thread andy pugh
On Mon, 4 Jul 2022 at 05:55, Roland Jollivet wrote: > > If the noise is from the belt whipping, then lightly press a rod, or two, > on the back of the belt to see the effect on the noise If you have a 3D printer, you could try making a floating tensioner: https://www.roll-ring.com/?lang=en --

[Emc-users] Clausing NC Spindle drive belt tension and noise.

2022-07-03 Thread Roland Jollivet
If the noise is from the belt whipping, then lightly press a rod, or two, on the back of the belt to see the effect on the noise. Be careful... So if it helps, you could add two 50mm bearinged idlers on the outside of the belt. Maybe use those two holes I see to mount. On Sun, 3 Jul 2022 at

Re: [Emc-users] Clausing NC Spindle drive belt tension and noise.

2022-07-03 Thread Chris Albertson
On Sun, Jul 3, 2022 at 3:29 PM Stuart Stevenson wrote: > Maybe the (excess?) noise is from the belt and pulleys not matching. > Is that visible in the photo? I tried to look but could not identify the belt. But yes certainly if miss-matched then replace everything with a modern design tooth

Re: [Emc-users] Clausing NC Spindle drive belt tension and noise.

2022-07-03 Thread Stuart Stevenson
Maybe the (excess?) noise is from the belt and pulleys not matching. On Sun, Jul 3, 2022, 4:59 PM Chris Albertson wrote: > The best information about timing belts will come from the belt > manufacturer's web site or from a belt reseller like https://sdp-si.com/ > SDP-SI

Re: [Emc-users] Clausing NC Spindle drive belt tension and noise.

2022-07-03 Thread Chris Albertson
The best information about timing belts will come from the belt manufacturer's web site or from a belt reseller like https://sdp-si.com/ SDP-SI has a lot of good theory-based articles on belts and belt tension and so on. One thing to know is that the older belt designs used trapezoid teeth. The

[Emc-users] Clausing NC Spindle drive belt tension and noise

2022-07-03 Thread John Figie
John Figie 3:18 PM (1 hour ago) to emc-users I am back to making slow forward progress on the Clausing NC since putting on hold back in March. The lathe came with the 5HP motor already mounted and I have kept this as is from the previous owner that gave up on the retrofit. The original lathe

[Emc-users] Clausing NC Spindle drive belt tension and noise.

2022-07-03 Thread John Figie
I am back to making slow forward progress on the Clausing NC since putting on hold back in March. The lathe came with the 5HP motor already mounted and I have kept this as is from the previous owner that gave up on the retrofit. The original lathe had a mechanical variable speed drive with