Re: [Emc-users] Code of Conduct

I just read all of this because I've been a little busy. I think all this CoC just triggered the paranoia some have inside (Wich I understand and it's not a bad thing if it stays in logical levels). It really isn't a big deal for me and from what I've red it's the same for most. I always

Re: [Emc-users] Code of Conduct

I tried to post one of these "classic western signs"..  saying  ...   "No scum allowed"   it needs moderator approval apprently. but...    how about that? Ron On 7/18/21 10:54 PM, Gregg Eshelman via Emc-users wrote: How about making it very simple, something like "Be excellent to each

Re: [Emc-users] Code of Conduct

On Sun, 2021-07-18 at 22:07 -0600, R C wrote: > On 7/18/21 9:58 PM, Valerio Bellizzomi wrote: > > On Sun, 2021-07-18 at 21:33 -0600, R C wrote: > > > On 7/18/21 9:24 PM, Valerio Bellizzomi wrote: > > > > On Sun, 2021-07-18 at 21:16 -0600, R C wrote: > > > > > On 7/18/21 9:08 PM, Valerio Bellizzomi

Re: [Emc-users] Code of Conduct

How about making it very simple, something like "Be excellent to each other." On Sunday, July 18, 2021, 1:58:54 PM MDT, R C wrote: On 7/18/21 1:22 PM, Mark Wendt wrote: > Whoever decided we somehow needed a Code of Conduct. Someone needs to > enforce it, no? Nah,  it could be done

Re: [Emc-users] Code of Conduct

On 7/18/21 9:58 PM, Valerio Bellizzomi wrote: On Sun, 2021-07-18 at 21:33 -0600, R C wrote: On 7/18/21 9:24 PM, Valerio Bellizzomi wrote: On Sun, 2021-07-18 at 21:16 -0600, R C wrote: On 7/18/21 9:08 PM, Valerio Bellizzomi wrote: On Sat, 2021-07-17 at 16:33 -0400, Dave Cole wrote: I missed

Re: [Emc-users] Code of Conduct

On 7/18/21 9:52 PM, Valerio Bellizzomi wrote: On Sun, 2021-07-18 at 21:33 -0600, R C wrote: On 7/18/21 9:24 PM, Valerio Bellizzomi wrote: On Sun, 2021-07-18 at 21:16 -0600, R C wrote: On 7/18/21 9:08 PM, Valerio Bellizzomi wrote: On Sat, 2021-07-17 at 16:33 -0400, Dave Cole wrote: I missed

Re: [Emc-users] Code of Conduct

On Sun, 2021-07-18 at 21:33 -0600, R C wrote: > On 7/18/21 9:24 PM, Valerio Bellizzomi wrote: > > On Sun, 2021-07-18 at 21:16 -0600, R C wrote: > > > On 7/18/21 9:08 PM, Valerio Bellizzomi wrote: > > > > On Sat, 2021-07-17 at 16:33 -0400, Dave Cole wrote: > > > > > I missed the beginning as well,

Re: [Emc-users] Code of Conduct

On Sun, 2021-07-18 at 21:33 -0600, R C wrote: > On 7/18/21 9:24 PM, Valerio Bellizzomi wrote: > > On Sun, 2021-07-18 at 21:16 -0600, R C wrote: > > > On 7/18/21 9:08 PM, Valerio Bellizzomi wrote: > > > > On Sat, 2021-07-17 at 16:33 -0400, Dave Cole wrote: > > > > > I missed the beginning as well,

Re: [Emc-users] Code of Conduct

On 7/18/21 9:24 PM, Valerio Bellizzomi wrote: On Sun, 2021-07-18 at 21:16 -0600, R C wrote: On 7/18/21 9:08 PM, Valerio Bellizzomi wrote: On Sat, 2021-07-17 at 16:33 -0400, Dave Cole wrote: I missed the beginning as well, but I think something happened that was not on this email list that

Re: [Emc-users] Code of Conduct

On Sun, 2021-07-18 at 21:16 -0600, R C wrote: > On 7/18/21 9:08 PM, Valerio Bellizzomi wrote: > > On Sat, 2021-07-17 at 16:33 -0400, Dave Cole wrote: > > > I missed the beginning as well, but I think something happened > > > that > > > was > > > not on this email list that prompted the COC stuff ?

Re: [Emc-users] Code of Conduct

On 7/18/21 9:08 PM, Valerio Bellizzomi wrote: On Sat, 2021-07-17 at 16:33 -0400, Dave Cole wrote: I missed the beginning as well, but I think something happened that was not on this email list that prompted the COC stuff ? Perhaps it was an attempt to prevent a future issue!? I really have no

Re: [Emc-users] Code of Conduct

On Sat, 2021-07-17 at 16:33 -0400, Dave Cole wrote: > I missed the beginning as well, but I think something happened that > was > not on this email list that prompted the COC stuff ? > Perhaps it was an attempt to prevent a future issue!? > > I really have no idea. > > No one has ever explained

Re: [Emc-users] Code of Conduct

> On 19 Jul 2021, at 7:13 am, Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Sunday 18 July 2021 16:17:31 Mark Wendt wrote: > >> It's still a topic because the Code is still up. Do you agree with >> everything included in the Code? >> >> Mark > > No Mark, I don't, and the reason has been discussed to death. I am

Re: [Emc-users] Code of Conduct

Honestly, i do. Read it again. I think it's been changed because it's not really that bad. It literally just says don't be a d-bag. I didn't sidestep, I just don't see why I should get deeper into it. I don't let petty matters bother me. It's just an email list for a free piece of software. Don't

Re: [Emc-users] Code of Conduct

On Sunday, July 18th, 2021 at 4:18 PM, Feral Engineer wrote: > I honestly just think you're reading into it way too deeply. Way bigger > fish to fry in the world these days. > Phil T. > The Feral Engineer exactly, it's not like we were given a choice, so why bother

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Because this topic is pretty darned important to a good number of people on this list, has yet to be resolved and we've heard no answers or reasons why it was initiated in the first place with no discussion with long time list members. On Sun, Jul 18, 2021, 17:25 Feral Engineer wrote: > Agreed,

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And you sidestepped my question yet again. On Sun, Jul 18, 2021, 17:21 Feral Engineer wrote: > I honestly just think you're reading into it way too deeply. Way bigger > fish to fry in the world these days. > > Phil T. > The Feral Engineer > > Check out my LinuxCNC tutorials, machine builds and

Re: [Emc-users] Code of Conduct

Indeed! Two (or even many wrongs don't make a right. -Original Message- From: Mark Wendt Sent: July 18, 2021 5:12 PM To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Code of Conduct I didn't ask if it was commonplace. I asked if you agreed with everything in it. Just

Re: [Emc-users] Code of Conduct

On 7/18/21 4:22 PM, Feral Engineer wrote: this topic is being beaten to death It would not happen here if the the squeaky wheel didn't get the grease. ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net

Re: [Emc-users] Code of Conduct

Agreed, Gene but my goodness, this topic is being beaten to death. All I want to do is build machines and help others so the same. Phil T. The Feral Engineer Check out my LinuxCNC tutorials, machine builds and other antics at www.youtube.com/c/theferalengineer Help support my channel efforts

Re: [Emc-users] Code of Conduct

I honestly just think you're reading into it way too deeply. Way bigger fish to fry in the world these days. Phil T. The Feral Engineer Check out my LinuxCNC tutorials, machine builds and other antics at www.youtube.com/c/theferalengineer Help support my channel efforts and coffee addiction:

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On Sunday 18 July 2021 16:58:02 Feral Engineer wrote: > The only control I'm worried about on this email list is CNC control > > Phil T. > The Feral Engineer Exactly Phil, although I don't mind a side detour that lets me know how others think. > Check out my LinuxCNC tutorials, machine builds

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On Sunday 18 July 2021 16:17:31 Mark Wendt wrote: > It's still a topic because the Code is still up. Do you agree with > everything included in the Code? > > Mark No Mark, I don't, and the reason has been discussed to death. I am a CET, and when I read of someone violating a basic electrical

Re: [Emc-users] Code of Conduct

Prezackly. On Sun, Jul 18, 2021, 16:34 R C wrote: > > On 7/18/21 2:18 PM, Mark Wendt wrote: > > Snort. That works so well. > > It working well was never the intention, it's the "control" part that > was of interest. > > Ron > > > > > On Sun, Jul 18, 2021, 15:59 R C wrote: > > > >> On 7/18/21

Re: [Emc-users] Code of Conduct

I didn't ask if it was commonplace. I asked if you agreed with everything in it. Just because something may be commonplace doesn't necessarily mean its good. On Sun, Jul 18, 2021, 16:34 Feral Engineer wrote: > i just glanced at it again, it's pretty commonplace. Unless all of the > admins all

Re: [Emc-users] Code of Conduct

The only control I'm worried about on this email list is CNC control Phil T. The Feral Engineer Check out my LinuxCNC tutorials, machine builds and other antics at www.youtube.com/c/theferalengineer Help support my channel efforts and coffee addiction: www.patreon.com/theferalengineer On Sun,

Re: [Emc-users] Code of Conduct

for what it is worth: I have been on and off this list for a good long whle, mostly lurking (I first signed up probably a decade ago, probably different email addr) What I never saw happen, accept on rare occassions, is getting a "personal" email from another member. Now I am get half a

Re: [Emc-users] Code of Conduct

On 7/18/21 2:18 PM, Mark Wendt wrote: Snort. That works so well. It working well  was never the intention,  it's the "control" part that was of interest. Ron On Sun, Jul 18, 2021, 15:59 R C wrote: On 7/18/21 1:22 PM, Mark Wendt wrote: Whoever decided we somehow needed a Code of

Re: [Emc-users] Code of Conduct

i just glanced at it again, it's pretty commonplace. Unless all of the admins all agree to enforce the code, it's pretty much going to be handled by an army of one and forgotten about the second people stop feeding into it negatively. Phil T. The Feral Engineer Check out my LinuxCNC tutorials,

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On 7/18/21 1:08 PM, Stuart Stevenson wrote: Who is the sheriff? Whomever has admin, Op, kick, ban, etc. etc. status for the mail list, IRC, forums. wiki, etc.etc. ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net

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Snort. That works so well. On Sun, Jul 18, 2021, 15:59 R C wrote: > > On 7/18/21 1:22 PM, Mark Wendt wrote: > > Whoever decided we somehow needed a Code of Conduct. Someone needs to > > enforce it, no? > > Nah, it could be done like gun control in Chicago > > > > Mark > > > > On Sun, Jul 18,

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It's still a topic because the Code is still up. Do you agree with everything included in the Code? Mark On Sun, Jul 18, 2021, 15:47 Feral Engineer wrote: > I find it hard to believe that this is still a topic of discussion. Simply > put, just don't be a jerk. Done. Move on with your day. > >

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On 7/18/21 1:22 PM, Mark Wendt wrote: Whoever decided we somehow needed a Code of Conduct. Someone needs to enforce it, no? Nah,  it could be done like gun control in Chicago Mark On Sun, Jul 18, 2021, 14:11 Stuart Stevenson wrote: Who is the sheriff? On Sun, Jul 18, 2021, 9:37 AM

Re: [Emc-users] Code of Conduct

I find it hard to believe that this is still a topic of discussion. Simply put, just don't be a jerk. Done. Move on with your day. Back to vinyl siding for me... Phil T. The Feral Engineer Check out my LinuxCNC tutorials, machine builds and other antics at www.youtube.com/c/theferalengineer

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Since we're not signing up new members by the dozens, and the vast majority of the group has been on this list for ages, grandfathering everybody makes the CoC rather pointless don't you think? Perhaps even more so than it already is? Mark On Sun, Jul 18, 2021, 14:39 Stuart Stevenson wrote: >

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Whoever decided we somehow needed a Code of Conduct. Someone needs to enforce it, no? Mark On Sun, Jul 18, 2021, 14:11 Stuart Stevenson wrote: > Who is the sheriff? > > On Sun, Jul 18, 2021, 9:37 AM fxkl47BF via Emc-users < > emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net> wrote: > > > On Saturday, July

Re: [Emc-users] Code of Conduct

Gentlemen, Heh - seems to me a LARGE portion of the group should be grandfathered in with any COC not applying to participants not having agreed to work under any COC restrictions or guidelines. Going forward agreement to be bound by the COC could be made a part of the process welcoming new

Re: [Emc-users] Code of Conduct

On Sunday 18 July 2021 14:08:02 Stuart Stevenson wrote: > Who is the sheriff? > I guess it was Jeff Epler who wrote it up, but I don't know if there is a designated sheriff. > On Sun, Jul 18, 2021, 9:37 AM fxkl47BF via Emc-users < [...] > > > The COC appears to be a compilation of what

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Who is the sheriff? On Sun, Jul 18, 2021, 9:37 AM fxkl47BF via Emc-users < emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net> wrote: > On Saturday, July 17th, 2021 at 12:28 PM, Stuart Stevenson < > stus...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > WOW - I missed it all! > > My wife and I left 24 Jun 2021 and returned 07 Jul 2021.

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On Saturday, July 17th, 2021 at 12:28 PM, Stuart Stevenson wrote: > WOW - I missed it all! > My wife and I left 24 Jun 2021 and returned 07 Jul 2021. I didn't check > emails until we returned. > Seems to me a lot of people confuse the right to comment with the > obligation to comment. > The COC

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So, everything is just wonderful and comes up roses if you like and agree with everything that was included in this CoC.  And if anyone disagrees with some of the inclusions, they're just being stupid.  Yeah, that's one way to run a listserv. Mark On 7/17/21 2:04 PM, Chris Albertson wrote:

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On Sunday 18 July 2021 05:38:22 Peter Blodow wrote: > Nikolaus: > > Aurea prima sata est aetas, > quae vindice nullo, > sponte sua, > sine lege > fidem rectumque colebat. > > (Publius Ovidius Naso, Metamorphoses) > > *This was the Golden Age that, ** > **without coercion, ** > **without laws, **

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On Saturday 17 July 2021 13:28:33 Stuart Stevenson wrote: > WOW - I missed it all! > Stuart , PM incuded because the list seems to be abandoned by the major responders. You missed what should have been a tempest in a teapot. That CoC was apparently done without a prior annuncement, by Jeff

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Nikolaus: Aurea prima sata est aetas, quae vindice nullo, sponte sua, sine lege fidem rectumque colebat. (Publius Ovidius Naso, Metamorphoses) *This was the Golden Age that, ** **without coercion, ** **without laws, ** **spontaneously nurtured ** **the good and the true.* Let's try to get

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Oh yes ... and to not disturb the policemen any more I asked for my forum account to be deleted (which thankfully was done) and unsubscribe from the lists. Let the policemen guide your steps, the community will definitly prosper! Nik Anno domini 2021 Sat, 17 Jul 22:43:30 -0600 R C scripsit: >

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Oh come on, don't be so negative, this CoC thing is not really a bad thing,  that is what I think by now ..   it is starting to look like it is working after a few weeks. I have been included in some "spin of's" from threads that die out on the list itself, or didn't even make it there,

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I prefer the term "Special" to stupid. I'm not "Special" enough to believe that the "COC" will help anything or anyone. Scott On Saturday, July 17, 2021, 1:05:37 PM CDT, Chris Albertson wrote: Yes, I just stumbled on this too.  What pointless junk.  Whoever maintains a list can have

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I missed the beginning as well, but I think something happened that was not on this email list that prompted the COC stuff ? Perhaps it was an attempt to prevent a future issue!? I really have no idea. No one has ever explained why it was written or why it is important.   I asked more than

Re: [Emc-users] Code of Conduct

Yes, I just stumbled on this too. What pointless junk. Whoever maintains a list can have whatever rules he likes. Mostly the rules are "don't be stupid" Then some guy complains "But I LIKE being stupid." and others seem to agree. Can't they all find a back channel to argue on? Block the

Re: [Emc-users] Code of Conduct

WOW - I missed it all! My wife and I left 24 Jun 2021 and returned 07 Jul 2021. I didn't check emails until we returned. Seems to me a lot of people confuse the right to comment with the obligation to comment. The COC appears to be a compilation of what everyone on the list has been doing all

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On Tue, Jul 13, 2021 at 6:07 AM andy pugh wrote: > On Tue, 13 Jul 2021 at 09:55, Mark wrote: > > > Bullshit. It's a sign that someone(s) wants to create political > > division and strife > > No, I think that we can be 100% sure that that was never Jeff's intention. > > -- > atp > It may not

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>> Bullshit. It's a sign that someone(s) wants to create political >> division and strife >No, I think that we can be 100% sure that that was never Jeff's intention. We do not know Jeff's intent since has never commented on this subject. ___

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Most likely not. The pro-CoC would first have to prove that the CoC is not doing any harm - which is kind of impossible, 'cause it has already caused harm. Then - as there is no formal leadership - who may vote? Not to stress the fact that "somebody" already has forced CoC on others and this

Re: [Emc-users] Code of Conduct

Is it possible to solve this democratically with a vote using something like Survey Monkey? Would those passionately for and against accept a democratic decision? It seems that the fear both for and against supporters of the CofC have of it’s use (or not) damaging the community is being far

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Anno domini 2021 Tue, 13 Jul 11:03:58 +0100 andy pugh scripsit: > On Tue, 13 Jul 2021 at 09:55, Mark wrote: > > > Bullshit. It's a sign that someone(s) wants to create political > > division and strife > > No, I think that we can be 100% sure that that was never Jeff's intention. > Well,

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On Tue, 13 Jul 2021 at 09:55, Mark wrote: > Bullshit. It's a sign that someone(s) wants to create political > division and strife No, I think that we can be 100% sure that that was never Jeff's intention. -- atp "A motorcycle is a bicycle with a pandemonium attachment and is designed for the

Re: [Emc-users] Code of Conduct

On 7/12/21 9:24 PM, Valerio Bellizzomi wrote: On Tue, 2021-07-13 at 02:05 +0200, Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote: So forcing CoC on all others is mature behaviour, isn't it? Nik yes, it is sign that one cares about the quality of the project. Bullshit.  It's a sign that someone(s) wants to

Re: [Emc-users] Code of Conduct

On 7/12/21 8:24 PM, Valerio Bellizzomi wrote: On Tue, 2021-07-13 at 02:05 +0200, Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote: So forcing CoC on all others is mature behaviour, isn't it? Nik yes, it is sign that one cares about the quality of the project. Please post a list of these requirements that a

Re: [Emc-users] Code of Conduct

On 7/12/21 8:21 PM, Valerio Bellizzomi wrote: On Mon, 2021-07-12 at 19:15 -0400, Bruce Layne wrote: On 7/12/21 4:27 PM, Dave Cole wrote: The argument that no professional organizations or people will be attracted to a project without a COC is nonsense. LinuxCNC has succeeded brilliantly all

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On Tue, 2021-07-13 at 02:05 +0200, Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote: > So forcing CoC on all others is mature behaviour, isn't it? > > Nik yes, it is sign that one cares about the quality of the project. > Anno domini 2021 Mon, 12 Jul 22:12:51 +0100 > Les Newell scripsit: > > As I pointed out before

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On Mon, 2021-07-12 at 19:15 -0400, Bruce Layne wrote: > On 7/12/21 4:27 PM, Dave Cole wrote: > > The argument that no professional organizations or people will be > > attracted to a project without a COC is nonsense. > > LinuxCNC has succeeded brilliantly all of these years without a Code > of

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So do you who started firstly. On Mon, 2021-07-12 at 22:39 +0200, Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote: > Please stop mailing me in private. > > Mailinglist CoC is not in the code nor in the forum. If the list > starts to get "funny" just change the provider. If the forum get > "strange", change it.

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So forcing CoC on all others is mature behaviour, isn't it? Nik Anno domini 2021 Mon, 12 Jul 22:12:51 +0100 Les Newell scripsit: > As I pointed out before the list admins have had the power to ban users > for a very long time. You agreed to that when you signed up. They have > of course used

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1 4:42 PM > To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Code of Conduct > > On Tue, 13 Jul 2021 at 00:17, Bruce Layne > wrote: > > > I miss the peaceful > > days before the Code of Conduct, when we all got along because we were > > focused on

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Andy if you go we, will we all miss you so much! Its kinda sad actually. I also vote to going back to before this all came up. I have ignored it so far. And just played with the technical stuff. But it would be so so so sad to destroy a awesome project over this. I run my full time business

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On Tue, 13 Jul 2021 at 00:17, Bruce Layne wrote: > I miss the peaceful > days before the Code of Conduct, when we all got along because we were > focused on the technical issues we had in common rather than being > forced to focus on the politics that divide us. Eloquently put. Recent events

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On 7/12/21 4:27 PM, Dave Cole wrote: The argument that no professional organizations or people will be attracted to a project without a COC is nonsense. LinuxCNC has succeeded brilliantly all of these years without a Code of Conduct, and I saw nothing that necessitated a CoC.  It seems to

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As I pointed out before the list admins have had the power to ban users for a very long time. You agreed to that when you signed up. They have of course used their fascist dictator powers to ... maybe ban a few spammers. Oh the injustice! If anyone here has abused their power it's you. You

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Please stop mailing me in private. Mailinglist CoC is not in the code nor in the forum. If the list starts to get "funny" just change the provider. If the forum get "strange", change it. Sourceforge had it's share of lost userbase when they tried monetarizing the community - didn't turn out

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Some people like being told what to do and what to think. They find it soothing. Some on the list might even be racists, sexists, communists, capitalists, hedonists or even put ketchup on hot dogs. With the CoC some of these people will sleep better at night. "Project leaders are

Re: [Emc-users] Code of Conduct

Could someone please point out why this COC is even an issue? If we already agreed to some terms, why is  a COC being layered on top of that? Seeing people pack their bags over a proposal, seems like a bad idea. The argument that no professional organizations or people will be attracted to a

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That's exactly why policemen and theit CoC are unbearable. Nik Anno domini 2021 Mon, 12 Jul 20:14:42 +0200 Valerio Bellizzomi scripsit: > Since you are unable to accept such a mild restrictive form, I think I > suspect what kind of person you are, so I'm glad you're leaving. > > > > On

Re: [Emc-users] Code of Conduct

Well, dear friends, as the CoC policemen with their CoC are more important than any thing I decided to pull the plug and took my remasters offline. You can read more about it here:

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On Mon, 2021-07-12 at 18:15 +0100, Les Newell wrote: > You do know you agreed to a much more restrictive CoC when you > joined > this mailing list, don't you? Here is the full agreement: > > This is linked from the EMC-users subscription form >

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You do know you agreed to a much more restrictive CoC when you joined this mailing list, don't you? Here is the full agreement: This is linked from the EMC-users subscription form If you agreed to

Re: [Emc-users] Code of Conduct

Good day, Please let's finish this topic, it's been taking 50% space. CNC discussion isn't COC, for the most part. Many people are not interested in COC discuss any longer. Thanks for understanding Jean-François Le 12/07/2021 à 10:04, Dr. Nikolaus Klepp a écrit : Anno domini 2021 Mon,

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Anno domini 2021 Mon, 12 Jul 09:23:15 +0200 jeanfrancois scripsit: > Hi, > > Can we end this topic please ? Can we remove CoC? No? So why end this debate? Nik > > Thank you, > > Jean-François > > Le 12/07/2021 à 09:19, Valerio Bellizzomi a écrit : > > Your trollish behavior is exactly

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Anno domini 2021 Mon, 12 Jul 09:19:13 +0200 Valerio Bellizzomi scripsit: > Your trollish behavior is exactly what a CoC is sensed to eradicate > from professional communities. > Tha's why you exercise such violent opposition. You don't realise that forcing CoC on others is exactly what's the

Re: [Emc-users] Code of Conduct

On Monday 12 July 2021 00:25:43 dva...@internode.on.net wrote: > - Original Message - > From: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" > To: > Cc: > Sent:Tue, 29 Jun 2021 17:07:55 -0600 > Subject:Re: [Emc-users] Code of Conduct > > On 6/29/21 RC

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agreeing totally. On Mon, 2021-07-12 at 09:23 +0200, jeanfrancois wrote: > Hi, > > Can we end this topic please ? > > Thank you, > > Jean-François > > Le 12/07/2021 à 09:19, Valerio Bellizzomi a écrit : > > Your trollish behavior is exactly what a CoC is sensed to eradicate > > from

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Hi, Can we end this topic please ? Thank you, Jean-François Le 12/07/2021 à 09:19, Valerio Bellizzomi a écrit : Your trollish behavior is exactly what a CoC is sensed to eradicate from professional communities. Tha's why you exercise such violent opposition. On Mon, 2021-07-12 at 01:12

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Your trollish behavior is exactly what a CoC is sensed to eradicate from professional communities. Tha's why you exercise such violent opposition. On Mon, 2021-07-12 at 01:12 -0600, R C wrote: > because you don't have a point. Other than the Mussolini one. > > On 7/12/21 1:08 AM, Valerio

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because you don't have a point. Other than the Mussolini one. On 7/12/21 1:08 AM, Valerio Bellizzomi wrote: I don't really want to talk with a troll like you. Communication terminated. On Mon, 2021-07-12 at 00:10 -0600, R C wrote: On 7/11/21 11:45 PM, Valerio Bellizzomi wrote: Nobody

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Nobody stops you, however your project will not gain much professional attraction. On Sun, 2021-07-11 at 22:55 -0600, R C wrote: > No it isn't, > > > I can start a open source project tomorrow (not today, cause it is > getting late), and not have a CoC, and who is going to stop me, if > it

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No it isn't, I can start a open source project tomorrow (not today, cause it is getting late), and not have a CoC, and who is going to stop me, if it doesn't have a CoC? On 7/11/21 10:46 PM, Valerio Bellizzomi wrote: Every open source project on Github.com and Sourceforge has a Code of

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Every open source project on Github.com and Sourceforge has a Code of Conduct, this is a necessary part of every public project. Regards On Mon, 2021-07-12 at 14:06 +0930, dva...@internode.on.net wrote: > > > Valerio wrote: >> > So it be. Andy, my apologies for trying to support the

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  Valerio wrote: >> So it be. Andy, my apologies for trying to support the adoption of a CoC, either the one proposed by Jeff or that of W3C as I proposed. Evidently the idea of being an organized community doesn't appeal to LinuxCNC users. I don't understand why there is so much opposition,

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  - Original Message - From: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" To: Cc: Sent:Tue, 29 Jun 2021 17:07:55 -0600 Subject:Re: [Emc-users] Code of Conduct On 6/29/21 RC wrote: Also, I changed my mind  .. hey all, can we still have that CoC? with that one rule in it

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I've been lurking on this forum for the last few years. But I've been a subscriber for way over 10 years. Constructed many LCNC machines. A few worked so well they physically wore out and had to be scrapped! But my business took me elsewhere for the last few years. So this COC is a surprise.

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I've been lurking on this forum for the last few years. But I've been a subscriber for way over 10 years. Constructed many LCNC machines.   A few worked so well they physically wore out, and had to be scrapped! But my business took me elsewhere. So this COC discussion is a surprise. This has to

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Jeff, Cool, thanks for doing this work. Chris On Mon, Jun 28, 2021 at 08:25:31PM -0500, Jeff Epler wrote: > The LinuxCNC community including this mailing list now has a written > code of conduct. Unless it's your idea of fun to harass other people, > this is a big non-event for you. > > You

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On Wed, 2021-06-30 at 23:49 +0100, Les Newell wrote: > I never thought it needed one either. My reaction when I read the > CoC > was pretty much 'Yeah, that makes sense' and until the list blew up > that's about all I thought about it. Most mailing lists and forums > have > something similar.

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Jeff, Noted thank you, See you regards, Jean-François Le 29/06/2021 à 03:25, Jeff Epler a écrit : The LinuxCNC community including this mailing list now has a written code of conduct. Unless it's your idea of fun to harass other people, this is a big non-event for you. You can read the code

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I never thought it needed one either. My reaction when I read the CoC was pretty much 'Yeah, that makes sense'  and until the list blew up that's about all I thought about it. Most mailing lists and forums have something similar. The SheetCam forum shows a CoC as part of the registration

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Les, to be clear I never thought this group needed a CoC, I always got more or less the help I wanted, on the rare occasions when I needed to ask and the time spent on IRC or on the list was well spent. When Jeff announced the CoC it was a well-received surprise, I don't care at all if it wasn't

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I understand that people assume you are up to speed on their project. I can be a little slow on picking up something in the middle without examples and comments. It's a lot like reading someone else's code (or your own code a month later).I know I am guilty of this, my presentations on my

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Hi Gene, I don't think it was a NIH issue, more a lack of resources and motivation. As you know getting LCNC working on the Pi platform is hard work and it is rather under powered for the task. X86 boxes are well supported and are easy to obtain, often for free. If you need low power

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On 6/30/21 12:59 PM, Scott Harwell via Emc-users wrote: I wish there was a little more "mansplaining" in some of the "docs". I still haven't decided how to set center of rotation for "A" and "C" in the Kinematics example. I agree. Can we adopt a code of technical writing or CoT for short?

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That much I'll definitely agree with! Phil T. The Feral Engineer Check out my LinuxCNC tutorials, machine builds and other antics at www.youtube.com/c/theferalengineer Help support my channel efforts and coffee addiction: www.patreon.com/theferalengineer On Wed, Jun 30, 2021, 2:03 PM Scott

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I wish there was a little more "mansplaining" in some of the "docs". I still haven't decided how to set center of rotation for "A" and "C" in the Kinematics example. Scott  On Wednesday, June 30, 2021, 12:43:30 PM CDT, Feral Engineer wrote: CoC doesn't really affect me because I

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