Re: [Emc-users] Is there an open source program similar to Vericut?

2013-12-05 Thread Dirk
On 04-Dec-13 8:22 PM, Gregg Eshelman wrote: On 12/4/2013 6:53 AM, bigengineer wrote: Hi, I am interested in this too. I have been silent here for a long time, (and was never really active either). But this is something where I might, semi-intelligently, help. :-) Long ago I tried what

Re: [Emc-users] Is there an open source program similar to Vericut?

2013-12-05 Thread andy pugh
On 5 December 2013 10:40, Dirk bigengin...@gmail.com wrote: But showing and moving machine and vises is a minor thing compared to material removal I think. Although I don't think it is trivial. I wonder if a voxel-based approach is simpler, but it rather depends on the required precision. If

Re: [Emc-users] Is there an open source program similar to Vericut?

2013-12-05 Thread Bertho Stultiens
On 12/05/2013 11:52 AM, andy pugh wrote: But showing and moving machine and vises is a minor thing compared to material removal I think. Although I don't think it is trivial. I wonder if a voxel-based approach is simpler, but it rather depends on the required precision. If 1mm voxels on a

Re: [Emc-users] Is there an open source program similar to Vericut?

2013-12-05 Thread Bertho Stultiens
On 12/05/2013 12:05 PM, Bertho Stultiens wrote: The voxel approach is a valid one. You can reduce the data-set size by merging voxels in a plane and volume. There are tree-algorithms to handle such cases and there is an advantage that you only need to split, never merge. However, using trees

Re: [Emc-users] Is there an open source program similar to Vericut?

2013-12-05 Thread Anders Wallin
BTW, the splitting is usually done with the octtree approach (which was mentioned before). It can still generate a huge amount of data. If you want a block of 10 split down to 1mil (0.001), or 4 orders of magnitude, then you need a tree-depth of 14. That would be worst case 10^12 leaf nodes,

Re: [Emc-users] Is there an open source program similar to Vericut?

2013-12-04 Thread bigengineer
Hi, I am interested in this too. I have been silent here for a long time, (and was never really active either). But this is something where I might, semi-intelligently, help. :-) Long ago I tried what openscad could do with substracting a cylinder moving along a path. I wasn't impressed with

Re: [Emc-users] Is there an open source program similar to Vericut?

2013-12-04 Thread Gregg Eshelman
On 12/4/2013 6:53 AM, bigengineer wrote: Hi, I am interested in this too. I have been silent here for a long time, (and was never really active either). But this is something where I might, semi-intelligently, help. :-) Long ago I tried what openscad could do with substracting a cylinder

Re: [Emc-users] Is there an open source program similar to Vericut?

2013-11-26 Thread Bertho Stultiens
On 11/25/2013 08:09 PM, Bertho Stultiens wrote: However, I've been thinking about exporting to an openSCAD script through rs274 (or sai through linking tolibrs274.so). I did a really quick hack to export the feed movement to a script and could create a 3D representation of the cut result (is is

Re: [Emc-users] Is there an open source program similar to Vericut?

2013-11-25 Thread Bertho Stultiens
On 11/25/2013 10:25 AM, Dave Caroline wrote: I have not seen http://openscam.com/ mentioned yet. also there are a couple of other experiments http://www.anderswallin.net/tag/cutsim/ gdepth at http://emergent.unpythonic.net/01169521961 This is a bit of a sad story... I too have been looking

Re: [Emc-users] Is there an open source program similar to Vericut?

2013-11-25 Thread Anders Wallin
Hi all, I have a feeling many of these CAD/CAM things require more knowledge than fits in the average open-source developers brain. the code for my efforts is at: https://github.com/aewallin/libcutsim *your* help/patches is required with: - use of the linuxcnc g-code interpreter (through c++ or

Re: [Emc-users] Is there an open source program similar to Vericut?

2013-11-25 Thread Bertho Stultiens
On 11/25/2013 02:47 PM, Anders Wallin wrote: I have a feeling many of these CAD/CAM things require more knowledge than fits in the average open-source developers brain. I would not quite put it like that. There are some brilliant people out there. Not all will perform equally on all subjects.

Re: [Emc-users] Is there an open source program similar to Vericut?

2013-11-25 Thread andy pugh
On 25 November 2013 14:17, Bertho Stultiens ber...@vagrearg.org wrote: That would be a good idea. The rs274 binary could be used as a front-end for many other things too. But I guess that would be a matter for the emc-develop list and a patch in that direction. Rather than rs274ngc in the

Re: [Emc-users] Is there an open source program similar to Vericut?

2013-11-25 Thread Dave Caroline
Perhaps I could mention a possible marriage as all the possible options of machines are very varied most cannot be simulated unless you use the same stuff that the machine uses itself so the machine can be simulated already by the vismach in some cases just needs knowledge of the tool table and

Re: [Emc-users] Is there an open source program similar to Vericut?

2013-11-25 Thread John Murphy
I use opensCAM and it works great, trivial install on ubuntu. On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 3:20 AM, Bertho Stultiens ber...@vagrearg.org wrote: On 11/25/2013 10:25 AM, Dave Caroline wrote: I have not seen http://openscam.com/ mentioned yet. also there are a couple of other experiments

Re: [Emc-users] Is there an open source program similar to Vericut?

2013-11-25 Thread Bertho Stultiens
On 11/25/2013 04:26 PM, John Murphy wrote: I use opensCAM and it works great, trivial install on ubuntu. Well, I tried to install ubuntu 12.04 LTS in a VM, but it locks up X all the time. However, I've been thinking about exporting to an openSCAD script through rs274 (or sai through linking

[Emc-users] Is there an open source program similar to Vericut?

2013-11-24 Thread Gregg Eshelman
I like the idea of a 3D simulation of a CNC machine to verify there won't be any surprises when it comes to real milling. Vericut looks good, but I bet the price is also of matching quality. -- Shape the Mobile

Re: [Emc-users] Is there an open source program similar to Vericut?

2013-11-24 Thread andy pugh
On 24 November 2013 23:53, Gregg Eshelman g_ala...@yahoo.com wrote: Vericut looks good, but I bet the price is also of matching quality. To answer a question other than the one you asked: I have had a quick play with the demo version of the simulator my the same folk as MeshCAM.

Re: [Emc-users] Is there an open source program similar to Vericut?

2013-11-24 Thread Steve Blackmore
On Sun, 24 Nov 2013 16:53:05 -0700, you wrote: I like the idea of a 3D simulation of a CNC machine to verify there won't be any surprises when it comes to real milling. I've never found that a simulation program runs better than the controller, or CAM program your going to use. I'm fortunate, I