Re: [Emc-users] Need an electronic tech smarter than me

2012-02-21 Thread Ed Nisley
On Tue, 2012-02-21 at 16:15 +1100, Erik Christiansen wrote: But it has banana sockets, so it'll do me. Murphy also has his way with them, particularly nowadays: http://softsolder.com/2012/02/08/power-supply-banana-jack-misfit/ Grumble... -- Ed http://softsolder.com

Re: [Emc-users] Need an electronic tech smarter than me

2012-02-21 Thread Erik Christiansen
On 21.02.12 07:00, Ed Nisley wrote: On Tue, 2012-02-21 at 16:15 +1100, Erik Christiansen wrote: But it has banana sockets, so it'll do me. Murphy also has his way with them, particularly nowadays: http://softsolder.com/2012/02/08/power-supply-banana-jack-misfit/ Grumble... I do like

Re: [Emc-users] Need an electronic tech smarter than me

2012-02-21 Thread Ed Nisley
On Tue, 2012-02-21 at 23:37 +1100, Erik Christiansen wrote: the last paragraph of the wikipedia entry for banana connector Seems to me that's an eBay market opportunity: who could possibly object to a small envelope with a gift from afar? -- Ed http://softsolder.com

Re: [Emc-users] Need an electronic tech smarter than me

2012-02-21 Thread Jon Elson
gene heskett wrote: I believe that may be the maximum self destruction voltage, assuming sufficient is available to reach that. At my dvm's diode range, I checked 6 of them, 3 had never seen power, and they all read a couple of millivolts from .989 volts forward, and with nearly 21 ma

Re: [Emc-users] Need an electronic tech smarter than me

2012-02-21 Thread gene heskett
On Tuesday, February 21, 2012 12:46:48 PM Jon Elson did opine: gene heskett wrote: I believe that may be the maximum self destruction voltage, assuming sufficient is available to reach that. At my dvm's diode range, I checked 6 of them, 3 had never seen power, and they all read a couple

Re: [Emc-users] Need an electronic tech smarter than me

2012-02-21 Thread andy pugh
On 21 February 2012 19:07, gene heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote: Two things.  Weller designs to make sure they have a steady market in repair parts. The first of their irons I ever had, was the original black one that used the curie point of an iron button in the back of the tip and you could

Re: [Emc-users] Need an electronic tech smarter than me

2012-02-21 Thread gene heskett
On Tuesday, February 21, 2012 04:30:03 PM gene heskett did opine: On Tuesday, February 21, 2012 12:46:48 PM Jon Elson did opine: gene heskett wrote: I believe that may be the maximum self destruction voltage, assuming sufficient is available to reach that. At my dvm's diode range, I

Re: [Emc-users] Need an electronic tech smarter than me

2012-02-21 Thread andy pugh
On 21 February 2012 21:33, gene heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote: Quick test this afternoon, duty cycle sucks It might not matter. There will be a hint of dither in the velocity estimate, but that's not that critical. If you turn of x4 mode then HAL won't even notice. -- atp The idea that

Re: [Emc-users] Need an electronic tech smarter than me

2012-02-21 Thread Steve Blackmore
On Tue, 21 Feb 2012 16:33:00 -0500, you wrote: Quick test this afternoon, duty cycle sucks, need MUCH narrower slots. Since I don't have anything narrower for bits that will cut that brass, I believe I will make another identical brass wheel and mount it slightly out of time to narrow the

Re: [Emc-users] Need an electronic tech smarter than me

2012-02-21 Thread Stephen Dubovsky
Quick test this afternoon, duty cycle sucks, need MUCH narrower slots. Gene, Try turning the LED current down. The data sheet listed 10mA in all their test specs. The other thing you could try instead of 2 discs offset is creating a singular slot for the emitter or the detector. Possibly just

Re: [Emc-users] Need an electronic tech smarter than me

2012-02-21 Thread gene heskett
On Tuesday, February 21, 2012 06:59:48 PM andy pugh did opine: On 21 February 2012 19:07, gene heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote: Two things. Weller designs to make sure they have a steady market in repair parts. The first of their irons I ever had, was the original black one that used the

Re: [Emc-users] Need an electronic tech smarter than me

2012-02-21 Thread gene heskett
On Tuesday, February 21, 2012 07:07:45 PM andy pugh did opine: On 21 February 2012 21:33, gene heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote: Quick test this afternoon, duty cycle sucks It might not matter. There will be a hint of dither in the velocity estimate, but that's not that critical. If you

Re: [Emc-users] Need an electronic tech smarter than me

2012-02-21 Thread gene heskett
On Tuesday, February 21, 2012 07:33:44 PM Steve Blackmore did opine: On Tue, 21 Feb 2012 16:33:00 -0500, you wrote: Quick test this afternoon, duty cycle sucks, need MUCH narrower slots. Since I don't have anything narrower for bits that will cut that brass, I believe I will make another

Re: [Emc-users] Need an electronic tech smarter than me

2012-02-21 Thread gene heskett
On Tuesday, February 21, 2012 07:43:50 PM Stephen Dubovsky did opine: Quick test this afternoon, duty cycle sucks, need MUCH narrower slots. Gene, Try turning the LED current down. The data sheet listed 10mA in all their test specs. My sheet says 20 mills in the emitter section, the 10

Re: [Emc-users] Need an electronic tech smarter than me

2012-02-21 Thread Jon Elson
gene heskett wrote: Two things. Weller designs to make sure they have a steady market in repair parts. I like the design of the EC1302B, the heater is on the outside, the temp sensor is on the inside of the tip. But, these are obsolete and I don't want to pay $67 the next time a temp

Re: [Emc-users] Need an electronic tech smarter than me

2012-02-21 Thread Jon Elson
andy pugh wrote: On 21 February 2012 19:07, gene heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote: Two things. Weller designs to make sure they have a steady market in repair parts. The first of their irons I ever had, was the original black one that used the curie point of an iron button in the back of

[Emc-users] Need an electronic tech smarter than me

2012-02-20 Thread gene heskett
Greetings all; I got the next generation of that board done today and populated it. This slot type opto device is a Honeywell HOA2001, a 5 terminal device whose basing is marked on top of each tower for the + terminal and an E for emitter, or an S for the sensor. The led has a 150 ohm current

Re: [Emc-users] Need an electronic tech smarter than me

2012-02-20 Thread Dave Caroline
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Re: [Emc-users] Need an electronic tech smarter than me

2012-02-20 Thread Stephen Dubovsky
Gene, The datasheet says logic high when the slot is clear, logic low when interrupted. So sounds like you have no LED. FWIW, 0.8V seems REALLY low for a LED. Typ about 2x that. Esp running @ 25mA. The max reverse led voltage is listed as only 3V. Was it ever hooked up backwards? Could have

Re: [Emc-users] Need an electronic tech smarter than me

2012-02-20 Thread Ed Nisley
On Mon, 2012-02-20 at 17:42 -0500, gene heskett wrote: 4. All logic outputs with the slots open are sitting at about 18 millivolts. The doc says a high output when the optical path is clear, so something's definitely wrong... If that were my board, I'd expect the top-surface ground line

[Emc-users] Need an electronic tech smarter than me

2012-02-20 Thread Roland Jollivet
On 21 February 2012 00:42, gene heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote: Greetings all; I got the next generation of that board done today and populated it. This slot type opto device is a Honeywell HOA2001, a 5 terminal device whose basing is marked on top of each tower for the + terminal and an E

Re: [Emc-users] Need an electronic tech smarter than me

2012-02-20 Thread gene heskett
On Monday, February 20, 2012 08:55:13 PM Stephen Dubovsky did opine: Gene, The datasheet says logic high when the slot is clear, logic low when interrupted. So sounds like you have no LED. FWIW, 0.8V seems REALLY low for a LED. Typ about 2x that. Esp running @ 25mA. The max reverse led

Re: [Emc-users] Need an electronic tech smarter than me

2012-02-20 Thread gene heskett
On Monday, February 20, 2012 09:04:16 PM Ed Nisley did opine: On Mon, 2012-02-20 at 17:42 -0500, gene heskett wrote: 4. All logic outputs with the slots open are sitting at about 18 millivolts. The doc says a high output when the optical path is clear, so something's definitely wrong...

Re: [Emc-users] Need an electronic tech smarter than me

2012-02-20 Thread gene heskett
On Monday, February 20, 2012 09:13:46 PM Roland Jollivet did opine: On 21 February 2012 00:42, gene heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote: Greetings all; I got the next generation of that board done today and populated it. This slot type opto device is a Honeywell HOA2001, a 5 terminal

Re: [Emc-users] Need an electronic tech smarter than me

2012-02-20 Thread melamy
Honeywell datasheets suck... The only relatively good picture is the schematic and the view on the left is from the top and the actual basing they show is from the bottom. The polarity they show on the top corresponds to the + S for Vcc and + E for anode/Kathode. At least that is the way I am

Re: [Emc-users] Need an electronic tech smarter than me

2012-02-20 Thread Erik Christiansen
On 20.02.12 21:03, gene heskett wrote: Assuming its hooked backwards, how much normal one diode drop current going the wrong way does it take to kill a typical LED? Not much. Limiting the current to the microamps which I'd consider (possibly) safe make it difficult to detect any output if

Re: [Emc-users] Need an electronic tech smarter than me

2012-02-20 Thread gene heskett
On Monday, February 20, 2012 10:53:17 PM mel...@earthlink.net did opine: Honeywell datasheets suck... Yeah, I'd compare that vacuum to the one about halfway to Alpha Centari. The only relatively good picture is the schematic and the view on the left is from the top and the actual basing they

Re: [Emc-users] Need an electronic tech smarter than me

2012-02-20 Thread gene heskett
On Monday, February 20, 2012 11:39:08 PM Erik Christiansen did opine: On 20.02.12 21:03, gene heskett wrote: Assuming its hooked backwards, how much normal one diode drop current going the wrong way does it take to kill a typical LED? Not much. Limiting the current to the microamps which

Re: [Emc-users] Need an electronic tech smarter than me

2012-02-20 Thread Erik Christiansen
On 20.02.12 23:46, gene heskett wrote: On Monday, February 20, 2012 11:39:08 PM Erik Christiansen did opine: Why isn't practice ever nearly as straightforward as theory? ;-) That I believe, we can lay right in Murphy's lap. Which ought to be as hot as Micky D's coffee. Maybe that SOB

Re: [Emc-users] Need an electronic tech smarter than me

2012-02-20 Thread Kirk Wallace
On Mon, 2012-02-20 at 23:46 -0500, gene heskett wrote: ... snip Nope, I had it right, but the wrong resistor, snip ... someone ...snip had inadvertently let my hand come back out of the bag holding 150k R's ... snip I'm glad you got it working. -- Kirk Wallace