Re: [Emc-users] Pluto-p board question

2013-07-12 Thread W. Martinjak
h, are there no unused pluto-p boards on the shelves? I'm wondering. On 2013-07-11 12:00, W. Martinjak wrote: Greetings! Are there some fellows who have plut-p boards and would sell it for a good price? I'm in search of some. My location is in europe. Thanks and regards, Matsche

Re: [Emc-users] Pluto-p board question

2013-07-12 Thread Kirk Wallace
On 07/12/2013 05:03 AM, W. Martinjak wrote: h, are there no unused pluto-p boards on the shelves? I'm wondering. ... snip Mine is on a shelf somewhere. I just don't recall where the shelf is. If you _really_ need a Pluto-P. I can make an effort to look. -- Kirk Wallace

[Emc-users] Pluto-p board question

2013-07-11 Thread W. Martinjak
Greetings! Are there some fellows who have plut-p boards and would sell it for a good price? I'm in search of some. My location is in europe. Thanks and regards, Matsche -- In der Wissenschaft siegt nie eine neue Theorie, nur ihre Gegner sterben nach und nach Max Planck

Re: [Emc-users] Pluto-p board question

2013-07-11 Thread Sebastian Kuzminsky
As far as i know, the Pluto boards are no longer being made, and never worked that well to start with. Look at the Mesa 7i43 for a modern replacent. W. Martinjak mats...@play-pla.net wrote: Greetings! Are there some fellows who have plut-p boards and would sell it for a good price? I'm in

Re: [Emc-users] Pluto-p board question

2013-07-11 Thread W. Martinjak
On 2013-07-11 15:21, Sebastian Kuzminsky wrote: As far as i know, the Pluto boards are no longer being made, and never worked that well to start with. Look at the Mesa 7i43 for a modern replacent. Yes, and due to this circumstance there should a couple of them lying about and let's hope

Re: [Emc-users] Pluto-P and PCI

2009-06-08 Thread Kirk Wallace
On Sun, 2009-06-07 at 21:43 -0600, Sebastian Kuzminsky wrote: ... snip I'm not sure why I couldn't get the LAVA parport chipset to work with the 7i43, but i agree with Peter's assessment: it's something the hm2_7i43 driver is doing wrong. I think the next debugging step is to trace Linux's

[Emc-users] Pluto-P and PCI

2009-06-07 Thread Kirk Wallace
I found an old thread on CNCzone that indicated that a LAVA PCI parallel port card works with the Pluto-P, so I got this one (with a Xilinx chip): http://www.lavalink.com/dev/index.php?id=66 lspci -v gave me an address for each port, but pluto_servo still will not load. The Pluto-P works fine on

Re: [Emc-users] Pluto-P and PCI

2009-06-07 Thread Jon Elson
Kirk Wallace wrote: I found an old thread on CNCzone that indicated that a LAVA PCI parallel port card works with the Pluto-P, so I got this one (with a Xilinx chip): http://www.lavalink.com/dev/index.php?id=66 lspci -v gave me an address for each port, but pluto_servo still will not load.

[Emc-users] Pluto-P board question ?

2009-03-24 Thread Marko Bukovinsky
What is the maximum counts / second Pluto - P can accept? I need 2 counts/ rev so , can i use encoder with 5000 pulses ? Machine will have max 15m/min rapid move. motor 1500 rpm and 2 counts ( x 4 ) will pruduce 50 pulses/ second. Is this acceptable Regards, Marko

Re: [Emc-users] Pluto-P board question ?

2009-03-24 Thread Jeff Epler
If you haven't already bought the pluto-p hardware, I recommend you consider the various interface cards from http://mesanet.com/ or http://pico-systems.com/motion.html instead -- they are better constructed and have a better record of hardware compatability. With that said, the documentation

Re: [Emc-users] Pluto-P board question ?

2009-03-24 Thread Jon Elson
Marko Bukovinsky wrote: What is the maximum counts / second Pluto - P can accept? I need 2 counts/ rev so , can i use encoder with 5000 pulses ? Machine will have max 15m/min rapid move. motor 1500 rpm and 2 counts ( x 4 ) will pruduce 50 pulses/ second. Is this acceptable

Re: [Emc-users] Pluto P setup questions

2009-02-23 Thread Tom
Chris and Sam, Thanks for your feedback, I went out and found a nice little Gateway computer for my latest Emc2/Pluto box. The Pluto P is running perfectly on the new computer. In fact all I did was comment out the limit switch setup string in the hal file and tune the acceleration in order to

Re: [Emc-users] Pluto P setup questions

2009-02-22 Thread sam sokolik
. Also make sure epp is set in the bios. sam (skunkworks, samco) - Original Message - From: Tom kestrel...@yahoo.com To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2009 1:47 AM Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Pluto P setup questions Chris Radek ch...@... writes: We've

Re: [Emc-users] Pluto P setup questions

2009-02-22 Thread Tom
sam sokolik sa...@... writes: a few things you can try -make sure the printer cable is ieee and try a shorter one (or hook it directly into the printer port) change the init string to add epp_wide=0 http://linuxcnc.org/docs/2.2/html/man/man9/pluto_servo.9.html sudo lspci -v will give

[Emc-users] Pluto P setup questions

2009-02-21 Thread Tom
Hi All, About a year ago I got involved with designing a servo amplifier current limiting add-on feature to an open source ciruit that was started by Samco (skunkworks?) on the cnczone. Here is a link to one of my posts http://www.cnczone.com/forums/showthread.php?t=25929page=11 (post#122) I

Re: [Emc-users] Pluto P setup questions

2009-02-21 Thread Chris Radek
On Sun, Feb 22, 2009 at 04:30:20AM +, Tom wrote: Failed to communicate with pluto servo board after programming firmware ' Actually I don't think the firmware was successfully uploaded because the led continues to glow soft red. We've found the pluto just doesn't work on some parallel

Re: [Emc-users] Pluto P setup questions

2009-02-21 Thread Tom
Chris Radek ch...@... writes: We've found the pluto just doesn't work on some parallel ports. At cnc workshop last year, mine would work on 2 out of the 5? machines we tried. We did not figure out why. Also the netmos chipset doesn't do EPP right. Maybe you have one of those?

Re: [Emc-users] Pluto-P

2008-12-04 Thread Roland Jollivet
Hi I presume that the network card will be dedicated, as the parport is, and only use a simple packet structure.. If one wants to connect to the internet, then you'd use a seperate USB link or a second network card if possible. That way there'll be no surprise jamming. Regards Roland Jollivet

Re: [Emc-users] Pluto-P

2008-12-04 Thread Jon Elson
Roland Jollivet wrote: Hi I presume that the network card will be dedicated, as the parport is, and only use a simple packet structure.. If one wants to connect to the internet, then you'd use a seperate USB link or a second network card if possible. That way there'll be no surprise jamming.

Re: [Emc-users] Pluto-P

2008-12-04 Thread Jon Elson
Chris Radek wrote: On Wed, Dec 03, 2008 at 09:48:18PM -0600, Jon Elson wrote: Peter C. Wallace wrote: As I said before maybe the way to ease into this is just support 1 or a few Ethernet chips, and require the user to have a add-in PCI/PCIe Ethernet card with the required chip.

Re: [Emc-users] Pluto-P

2008-12-04 Thread Matt Shaver
On Thu, 2008-12-04 at 11:08 -0600, Jon Elson wrote: So, does anyone know it there is a dumbed-down network protocol stack for real time? http://mail.rtai.org/pipermail/rtai/2002-November/001446.html http://aschauf.landshut.org/fh/linux/udp_vs_raw/index.html Not a specific answer, but a lead

Re: [Emc-users] Pluto-P

2008-12-04 Thread Alex Joni
This might be usefull to get on the right track: http://www.rts.uni-hannover.de/rtnet/lxr/source/examples/xenomai/native/kernel/raw-packets.c Regards, Alex On Thu, 2008-12-04 at 11:08 -0600, Jon Elson wrote: So, does anyone know it there is a dumbed-down network protocol stack for real time?

Re: [Emc-users] Pluto-P

2008-12-04 Thread Dave Engvall
Hi, . and it will be called ENC rather than ppmc sorry just couldn't resist. ;-) Dave ps. have at it a newer detached controller interface would be really nice. :-) On Dec 4, 2008, at 12:15 PM, Alex Joni wrote: This might be usefull to get on the right track:

Re: [Emc-users] Pluto-P

2008-12-04 Thread Jon Elson
Matt Shaver wrote: On Thu, 2008-12-04 at 11:08 -0600, Jon Elson wrote: So, does anyone know it there is a dumbed-down network protocol stack for real time? http://mail.rtai.org/pipermail/rtai/2002-November/001446.html I couldn't make much sense of this one, and it is from 2002.

[Emc-users] Pluto-P

2008-12-03 Thread Len Shelton
What exactly is the purpose of the Pluto-P interface? Does it just give more I/O than the parallel port, or is it somehow faster (I am guessing not)? Thanks, Len - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your

Re: [Emc-users] Pluto-P

2008-12-03 Thread John Kasunich
Len Shelton wrote: What exactly is the purpose of the Pluto-P interface? Does it just give more I/O than the parallel port, or is it somehow faster (I am guessing not)? The Pluto generates step pulses in hardware, which means that it can deliver higher step rates than the simple software

Re: [Emc-users] Pluto-P

2008-12-03 Thread Chris Radek
On Wed, Dec 03, 2008 at 08:57:11AM -0600, Len Shelton wrote: What exactly is the purpose of the Pluto-P interface? Does it just give more I/O than the parallel port, or is it somehow faster (I am guessing not)? http://www.linuxcnc.org/docs/devel/html/man/man9/pluto_servo.9.html

Re: [Emc-users] Pluto-P

2008-12-03 Thread Jeff Epler
On Wed, Dec 03, 2008 at 10:06:28AM -0500, John Kasunich wrote: It is probably the cheapest hardware step generation option, but that shows. The quality of the board is marginal, connections are to tiny headers, etc. The price difference between knjn.com's pluto-p ($60) and mesanet.com's

Re: [Emc-users] Pluto-P

2008-12-03 Thread Len Shelton
:07 AM To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Pluto-P On Wed, Dec 03, 2008 at 08:57:11AM -0600, Len Shelton wrote: What exactly is the purpose of the Pluto-P interface? Does it just give more I/O than the parallel port, or is it somehow faster (I am guessing not)? http

Re: [Emc-users] Pluto-P

2008-12-03 Thread John Kasunich
Len Shelton wrote: So it IS a hardware step pulse generator. Great! So I assume it receives its commands in 8-bit parallel?? Which would be faster than serial. But could it be made to run serial? No. John Kasunich

Re: [Emc-users] Pluto-P

2008-12-03 Thread Peter C. Wallace
: Wednesday, December 03, 2008 9:07 AM To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Pluto-P On Wed, Dec 03, 2008 at 08:57:11AM -0600, Len Shelton wrote: What exactly is the purpose of the Pluto-P interface? Does it just give more I/O than the parallel port, or is it somehow faster (I

Re: [Emc-users] Pluto-P

2008-12-03 Thread Kenneth Lerman
Hey Peter, You don't happen to have an ethernet interface IFDEFed out there too, do you? Ken ..snip.. I doubt the Pluto has enough gates for a decent serial interface along with good set of peripherals. It could be done with our 7I43 though. Its just a minor change from

Re: [Emc-users] Pluto-P

2008-12-03 Thread John Kasunich
Kenneth Lerman wrote: Hey Peter, You don't happen to have an ethernet interface IFDEFed out there too, do you? Ken As Peter pointed out, it isn't the FPGA that is the limiting factor, it is the computer interface. The reason the parallel port (in EPP mode) works for connecting to

Re: [Emc-users] Pluto-P

2008-12-03 Thread Peter C. Wallace
-users] Pluto-P Hey Peter, You don't happen to have an ethernet interface IFDEFed out there too, do you? Actually we started a 7I43 with Luminary Micro ARM Ethernet interface CPU back in May or so but custom work kept me from finishing it. I will start again soon. As John says the real problem

Re: [Emc-users] Pluto-P

2008-12-03 Thread Ray Henry
On Wed, 2008-12-03 at 10:16 -0800, Peter C. Wallace wrote: Actually we started a 7I43 with Luminary Micro ARM Ethernet interface CPU back in May or so but custom work kept me from finishing it. I will start again soon. As John says the real problem is getting realtime Ethernet support on

Re: [Emc-users] Pluto-P

2008-12-03 Thread Jon Elson
Peter C. Wallace wrote: As John says the real problem is getting realtime Ethernet support on the EMC host. As I said before maybe the way to ease into this is just support 1 or a few Ethernet chips, and require the user to have a add-in PCI/PCIe Ethernet card with the required chip.

Re: [Emc-users] Pluto-P

2008-12-03 Thread Jon Elson
Ray Henry wrote: On Wed, 2008-12-03 at 10:16 -0800, Peter C. Wallace wrote: Actually we started a 7I43 with Luminary Micro ARM Ethernet interface CPU back in May or so but custom work kept me from finishing it. I will start again soon. As John says the real problem is getting

Re: [Emc-users] Pluto-P

2008-12-03 Thread Chris Radek
On Wed, Dec 03, 2008 at 09:48:18PM -0600, Jon Elson wrote: Peter C. Wallace wrote: As I said before maybe the way to ease into this is just support 1 or a few Ethernet chips, and require the user to have a add-in PCI/PCIe Ethernet card with the required chip. Having fought this

Re: [Emc-users] Pluto-P

2008-12-03 Thread tomp
Jon Elson wrote: Peter C. Wallace wrote: As John says the real problem is getting realtime Ethernet support on the EMC host. As I said before maybe the way to ease into this is just support 1 or a few Ethernet chips, and require the user to have a add-in PCI/PCIe Ethernet card with

Re: [Emc-users] Pluto-P

2008-01-31 Thread Len Shelton
Chris, Do you need any pull-ups on the inputs? What about buffer chips? Any particular features that would be nice to have? Len My lathe uses the emc2 pluto-servo pinout: http://www.linuxcnc.org/docs/html//hal_drivers.html#sec:pluto-servo

[Emc-users] Pluto-P

2008-01-28 Thread Len Shelton
Friends, I am looking for feedback from Pluto-P users... I am working on a breakout board for the Pluto-P, more-or-less a daughter board to bring the pins out to screw clamps with buffers or pull-ups where needed. I'd like to see a list of the pinout of the Pluto-P that you are currently

Re: [Emc-users] Pluto-P

2008-01-28 Thread Chris Radek
On Mon, Jan 28, 2008 at 08:56:54PM -0600, Len Shelton wrote: Friends, I am looking for feedback from Pluto-P users... I am working on a breakout board for the Pluto-P, more-or-less a daughter board to bring the pins out to screw clamps with buffers or pull-ups where needed. I'd like