Re: [Emc-users] Resolvers and 2 phase AC servos

2023-01-22 Thread gene heskett
On 1/22/23 04:54, Robin Szemeti via Emc-users wrote: Yep, I have used steppers, servos, optical encoders with EMC etc etc in the past, however, on this particular device, I am not going to try and hack the mechanicals apart to start changing stuff. It's a high quality bit of military kit that

Re: [Emc-users] Resolvers and 2 phase AC servos

2023-01-22 Thread Robin Szemeti via Emc-users
Yep, I'm planning to use the Mesa resolver boards, simply because I already have a fair bit of Mesa kit. I expect resolution to be 14 bits and accuracy to be 12 bits. On Sun, 22 Jan 2023 at 16:52, Jon Elson wrote: > On 1/21/23 19:34, Robin Szemeti via Emc-users wrote: > > One thing that might

Re: [Emc-users] Resolvers and 2 phase AC servos

2023-01-22 Thread Nicklas SB Karlsson
sön 2023-01-22 klockan 10:51 -0600 skrev Jon Elson: > On 1/21/23 19:34, Robin Szemeti via Emc-users wrote: > > One thing that might cause some ... well, "issues" is my resolvers > > are used > > to determine the absolute angular position of my two rotational > > axes, ie > > they are driven off

Re: [Emc-users] Resolvers and 2 phase AC servos

2023-01-22 Thread Jon Elson
On 1/21/23 19:34, Robin Szemeti via Emc-users wrote: One thing that might cause some ... well, "issues" is my resolvers are used to determine the absolute angular position of my two rotational axes, ie they are driven off the axes themselves after the gearing, not off the motors before the

Re: [Emc-users] Resolvers and 2 phase AC servos

2023-01-22 Thread Robin Szemeti via Emc-users
Hi Chris, An interesting device, but you are making a fundamental mistake in confusing resolution with accuracy. If you read the datasheet, they make no claims whatsoever about accuracy, if it was good, I am sure they would mention it. That said, I would reasonably expect them to achieve +- 5

Re: [Emc-users] Resolvers and 2 phase AC servos

2023-01-22 Thread Robin Szemeti via Emc-users
Yep, I have used steppers, servos, optical encoders with EMC etc etc in the past, however, on this particular device, I am not going to try and hack the mechanicals apart to start changing stuff. It's a high quality bit of military kit that has presumably worked well enough in its previous life,

Re: [Emc-users] Resolvers and 2 phase AC servos

2023-01-21 Thread gene heskett
On 1/21/23 20:20, Robin Szemeti via Emc-users wrote: That looks like a useful module ... sine for one of the coils, cosine for the other, and simply multiply the cosine signal by the servo drive signal +1 goes one direction, -1 goes the other and anything in between is just slower ... I have a

Re: [Emc-users] Resolvers and 2 phase AC servos

2023-01-21 Thread Chris Albertson
You can simplify this if you replace the resolvers with magnetic encoders. They cost $4 each and come mounted to PCBs and with a magnet. What you do is super-glue the magnet to the shaft end and then face the chip at the magnet with an about 1mm air gap. The chip tells you the shaft angle to

Re: [Emc-users] Resolvers and 2 phase AC servos

2023-01-21 Thread Robin Szemeti via Emc-users
One thing that might cause some ... well, "issues" is my resolvers are used to determine the absolute angular position of my two rotational axes, ie they are driven off the axes themselves after the gearing, not off the motors before the gearing. This may prove to be a bit "interesting" .. but

Re: [Emc-users] Resolvers and 2 phase AC servos

2023-01-21 Thread Robin Szemeti via Emc-users
That looks like a useful module ... sine for one of the coils, cosine for the other, and simply multiply the cosine signal by the servo drive signal +1 goes one direction, -1 goes the other and anything in between is just slower ... I have a company that manufactures audio amps, driver stages

Re: [Emc-users] Resolvers and 2 phase AC servos

2023-01-21 Thread gene heskett
On 1/21/23 06:25, Robin Szemeti via Emc-users wrote: So, in a vaguely CNC related folly I have purchased a 2 axis military dish mount for radio stuff (moonbounce, if you must know) My plan is to control it from EMC, with a Mesa anything io card and the resolver interface, I already have

Re: [Emc-users] Resolvers and 2 phase AC servos

2023-01-21 Thread Robin Szemeti via Emc-users
Sure, I could do it on an ESP32 ... and the two axes of resolver feedback, with the reference generator for the resolvers? and of course I'll need some sort of graphical interface to show the current position, and an interface to an external keypad or somesuch for intial setup and establishing

Re: [Emc-users] Resolvers and 2 phase AC servos

2023-01-21 Thread Chris Albertson
This is a job best done on a $5 microcontroller, like the ESP32. You can even program the thing in Python to do what is needed. You can generate the AC as a 3-volt signal to an analog pin and then amplify it. Microcontrollers have come a long way. ESP32 is a dual-core 32-bit CPU with

Re: [Emc-users] Resolvers and 2 phase AC servos

2023-01-21 Thread Andy Pugh
> On 21 Jan 2023, at 12:26, Robin Szemeti via Emc-users > wrote: > > Is it possible to use HAL or something to generate the variable level 50Hz > servo drive signals and output them from the PWM outputs on the resolver Updating the analog output at 1khz will probably give a good enough sine

[Emc-users] Resolvers and 2 phase AC servos

2023-01-21 Thread Robin Szemeti via Emc-users
So, in a vaguely CNC related folly I have purchased a 2 axis military dish mount for radio stuff (moonbounce, if you must know) My plan is to control it from EMC, with a Mesa anything io card and the resolver interface, I already have various Mesa cards under EMC, so thats not an issue and I