Re: [Emc-users] Switching to Vesa Driver

2009-05-02 Thread Mark Wendt (Contractor)
At 01:42 PM 5/1/2009, you wrote: When I studied Chem Engineering I had the chance to work/play on KL/KI 10's using TOPS 10 and what I learned there regarding spooling, OS, MultiTasking, Realtime... and so on... leaves the impression that everything simply went downhill from there. That machine had

Re: [Emc-users] Switching to Vesa Driver

2009-05-01 Thread Mark Wendt (Contractor)
At 01:39 PM 4/30/2009, you wrote: Mark Wendt (Contractor) wrote: Did you ever get to play around with the Alpha machines? Oh, sure! We converted over to all Alphas, maybe about 1995? One big problem we had was the difference in the stack calling frame between VAX and Alpha. On the VAX,

Re: [Emc-users] Switching to Vesa Driver

2009-05-01 Thread Jon Elson
Mark Wendt (Contractor) wrote: I sysadmin'd a bunch of those behemoth Alpha 8400's. They really were a joy to administer. DEC did those ones right - we hardly ever had any hardware maintenance to worry about. Clustering was a wunnerful thing for system(s) uptime, especially on critical

Re: [Emc-users] Switching to Vesa Driver

2009-05-01 Thread Rainer Schmidt
When I studied Chem Engineering I had the chance to work/play on KL/KI 10's using TOPS 10 and what I learned there regarding spooling, OS, MultiTasking, Realtime... and so on... leaves the impression that everything simply went downhill from there. That machine had no specific CPU cycle. It kinda

Re: [Emc-users] Switching to Vesa Driver

2009-04-30 Thread Mark Wendt (Contractor)
At 01:23 PM 4/29/2009, you wrote: Mark Wendt (Contractor) wrote: Yah, force of habit with me I guess. I just don't like empty spaces... Speaking of VMS being stable, I think we held the uptime record here at NRL a few years back for a VAX 6000 running VMS. Last I knew it had an uptime

Re: [Emc-users] Switching to Vesa Driver

2009-04-30 Thread Jon Elson
Mark Wendt (Contractor) wrote: Did you ever get to play around with the Alpha machines? Oh, sure! We converted over to all Alphas, maybe about 1995? One big problem we had was the difference in the stack calling frame between VAX and Alpha. On the VAX, the first word in the frame was the

Re: [Emc-users] Switching to Vesa Driver

2009-04-29 Thread Mark Wendt (Contractor)
At 01:28 PM 4/28/2009, you wrote: I'm a UNIX guy and actually do not use spaces in anything. But if I have an input field, then I rely on the validation of the input. Stepconf allows the space in a profile name but subsequently fails to fix that up or reject it for later use as filename. I always

Re: [Emc-users] Switching to Vesa Driver

2009-04-29 Thread Jon Elson
Mark Wendt (Contractor) wrote: Yah, force of habit with me I guess. I just don't like empty spaces... Speaking of VMS being stable, I think we held the uptime record here at NRL a few years back for a VAX 600 running VMS. Last I knew it had an uptime of just a little over 9 years.

Re: [Emc-users] Switching to Vesa Driver

2009-04-28 Thread Mark Wendt (Contractor)
At 02:36 PM 4/27/2009, you wrote: Another Day in the EMC Noob Shop I got all set up and started EMC just to see it fail. No real error message. Just that every process is terminating nicely and that everything is being cleaned up. I fished around for a while using my newly acquired trouble

Re: [Emc-users] Switching to Vesa Driver

2009-04-28 Thread Rainer Schmidt
I'm a UNIX guy and actually do not use spaces in anything. But if I have an input field, then I rely on the validation of the input. Stepconf allows the space in a profile name but subsequently fails to fix that up or reject it for later use as filename. I always found VMS to be the simplest OS.

Re: [Emc-users] Switching to Vesa Driver

2009-04-27 Thread Rainer Schmidt
Great info! I keep that in mind when I will try and interface with some other circuitry. Now that the USB trap has been mentioned Mr. Murphy probably moves on to another tricky functionality ;). I also removed a Firewire card just in case. I'll drop that back in and see if there is a change. And

Re: [Emc-users] Switching to Vesa Driver

2009-04-27 Thread Rainer Schmidt
Another Day in the EMC Noob Shop I got all set up and started EMC just to see it fail. No real error message. Just that every process is terminating nicely and that everything is being cleaned up. I fished around for a while using my newly acquired trouble shooting skill set haha. And I found

[Emc-users] Switching to Vesa Driver

2009-04-26 Thread Rainer Schmidt
After wasting an hour searching I ask the list for help I try to switch back to the Vesa driver to see if the NVidia driver on my box is responsible for the fatal timing errors of my little box here I dried Dexconf but that dies with a FATAL: Module battery not found. Obviously I have to

Re: [Emc-users] Switching to Vesa Driver

2009-04-26 Thread Lars Andersson
Subject: [Emc-users] Switching to Vesa Driver After wasting an hour searching I ask the list for help I try to switch back to the Vesa driver to see if the NVidia driver on my box is responsible for the fatal timing errors of my little box here I dried Dexconf but that dies

Re: [Emc-users] Switching to Vesa Driver

2009-04-26 Thread Rainer Schmidt
Thanks Lars. That did it. I'm now running the Vesa driver. However, I am still having the 12ns spikes... In the Wiki is an identical machine supposedly running emc under RTAI. Sighhh I removed my graphics card and am running on the internal one. No change. I took a look and the smi module was

Re: [Emc-users] Switching to Vesa Driver

2009-04-26 Thread Rainer Schmidt
Friggin UPS... I had the same experience. Lead Bat's stink. But what other alternative is there? R On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 1:23 PM, Gene Heskett gene.hesk...@gmail.com wrote: On Sunday 26 April 2009, Rainer Schmidt wrote: After wasting an hour searching I ask the list for help I try to

Re: [Emc-users] Switching to Vesa Driver

2009-04-26 Thread Rainer Schmidt
I give up for today. Out of play time 8(((. The last strange thing I noticed is that I am ONLY having those 120-15 ns spikes running the Latency test from EMC. When I run the latency test from RTAI in the testsuite the worst I am getting is 37000. Which corresponds to other machines

Re: [Emc-users] Switching to Vesa Driver

2009-04-26 Thread Gene Heskett
On Sunday 26 April 2009, Rainer Schmidt wrote: Friggin UPS... I had the same experience. Lead Bat's stink. But what other alternative is there? R Sonocells? We had a UPS to end all UPS's in each hole at the old titan sites I help build in late 61/62. Each cell, was a wet cell nicad, in a glass

Re: [Emc-users] Switching to Vesa Driver

2009-04-26 Thread Lars Andersson
One thing that gave me bad latency spikes was Legacy USB support in BIOS. -Original Message- From: Gene Heskett [mailto:gene.hesk...@gmail.com] Sent: den 26 april 2009 19:51 To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Switching to Vesa Driver On Sunday 26 April

Re: [Emc-users] Switching to Vesa Driver

2009-04-26 Thread Rainer Schmidt
Yeahhh if you short out those NiCad's then you will have a heck of a party. That setup is a tad to large for my shop. Now I could not stop thinking about the fact that I had no mega jitters inthe rtai test suite but in ENC all of a sudden... So... I removed the SMI lines form the EMC config

Re: [Emc-users] Switching to Vesa Driver

2009-04-26 Thread Rainer Schmidt
While shutting down the system asked for recovery options I ran through the 'fix X11' and 'repair packages' option and now all works It seems that one has to reboot after the NVidia drivers are removed... Well Now I am letting latency run a few hours and see what happens. The mega

Re: [Emc-users] Switching to Vesa Driver

2009-04-26 Thread Gene Heskett
26 april 2009 19:51 To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Switching to Vesa Driver On Sunday 26 April 2009, Rainer Schmidt wrote: Friggin UPS... I had the same experience. Lead Bat's stink. But what other alternative is there? R Sonocells? We had a UPS to end all

Re: [Emc-users] Switching to Vesa Driver

2009-04-26 Thread Gene Heskett
On Sunday 26 April 2009, Rainer Schmidt wrote: While shutting down the system asked for recovery options I ran through the 'fix X11' and 'repair packages' option and now all works It seems that one has to reboot after the NVidia drivers are removed... Well Great. I had assumed

Re: [Emc-users] Switching to Vesa Driver

2009-04-26 Thread Gene Heskett
On Sunday 26 April 2009, Rainer Schmidt wrote: Yeahhh if you short out those NiCad's then you will have a heck of a party. That setup is a tad to large for my shop. Yes, we were warned, repeatedly. I have doubts my 200 amp service could do a from low charge up on them things. Not to mention