Re: [Emc-users] Technique question

2014-07-09 Thread rayj
Andy, Thanks for pointing me to the website. I'm sure it'll be useful. Raymond Julian Kettle River, MN The things we admire in men, kindness and generosity, openness, honesty, understanding and feeling are the concomitants of failure in our system. And those traits we detest, sharpness,

Re: [Emc-users] Technique question

2014-07-05 Thread Steve Blackmore
On Fri, 4 Jul 2014 19:45:31 -0500, you wrote: That would be large enough to have some physical instability at high speed. You could also have room to put a number of pickups around it and gain resolution by reading them sequentially. I have an encoder disk made of tufnel on my lathe - it's

Re: [Emc-users] Technique question

2014-07-04 Thread Marcus Bowman
On 4 Jul 2014, at 02:28, Jon Elson wrote: On 07/03/2014 04:18 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: But it occurs to me that this code is dig cutting, meaning the bit as it dulls, will skid rather than shave at first contact and be pushed farther and farther off the line until it snaps. I have been

Re: [Emc-users] Technique question

2014-07-04 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 04 July 2014 03:08:45 Marcus Bowman did opine And Gene did reply: On 4 Jul 2014, at 02:28, Jon Elson wrote: On 07/03/2014 04:18 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: But it occurs to me that this code is dig cutting, meaning the bit as it dulls, will skid rather than shave at first contact and

Re: [Emc-users] Technique question

2014-07-04 Thread Stuart Stevenson
Gene, If you plan the scale to collect the data to compensate the ballscrew then the .0004 scale is fine to obtain a pretty accurate positioning and repeatable machine. I use climb milling for most everything except finish passes on steel. You will find the multitude of variables in the process

Re: [Emc-users] Technique question

2014-07-04 Thread Stuart Stevenson
I tend to use single flute router cutters for what you describe. Reverse helix will cause the cutters to push the material down rather than puck it up into the cutter and break it. On Jul 4, 2014 7:33 AM, Gene Heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote: On Friday 04 July 2014 03:08:45 Marcus Bowman did

Re: [Emc-users] Technique question

2014-07-04 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 04 July 2014 09:24:19 Stuart Stevenson did opine And Gene did reply: Gene, If you plan the scale to collect the data to compensate the ballscrew then the .0004 scale is fine to obtain a pretty accurate positioning and repeatable machine. I just changed a boatload of -+ signs around

Re: [Emc-users] Technique question

2014-07-04 Thread Russell Brown
Quoth Marcus Bowman. See the photo currently at www.cncintheworkshop.com/Welcome.html That's a nice bit of work. A set of yokes for my Harris are in my queue of 'jobs to be done at some point' and I'd love to know the cutting and clamping sequence you went through to end up with the yoke

Re: [Emc-users] Technique question

2014-07-04 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 04 July 2014 09:30:02 Stuart Stevenson did opine And Gene did reply: I tend to use single flute router cutters for what you describe. Reverse helix will cause the cutters to push the material down rather than puck it up into the cutter and break it. Humm, The place where I've

Re: [Emc-users] Technique question

2014-07-04 Thread Jon Elson
On 07/04/2014 12:24 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: I've broken several of those 1/32 SC mills, trying to cut deeper than 1.5 thou per pass and faster than 2.5 ipm. Brass sheet (door kick panel from ACE Hdwe) is 1/32 thick so I'm doing 25 passes to get 45 thou down in case Hmmm, I'd think the

Re: [Emc-users] Technique question

2014-07-04 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 04 July 2014 11:43:41 Jon Elson did opine And Gene did reply: On 07/04/2014 12:24 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: I've broken several of those 1/32 SC mills, trying to cut deeper than 1.5 thou per pass and faster than 2.5 ipm. Brass sheet (door kick panel from ACE Hdwe) is 1/32 thick so

Re: [Emc-users] Technique question

2014-07-04 Thread Jon Elson
On 07/04/2014 01:04 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: I usually blow it clear about once a minute. My air compressor is outside, sitting under the eave of the building with a tarp on top, plus half a sheet of that orange ply used for sheathing to help direct wind driven rain away. To run a steady

Re: [Emc-users] Technique question

2014-07-04 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 04 July 2014 14:36:44 Jon Elson did opine And Gene did reply: On 07/04/2014 01:04 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: I usually blow it clear about once a minute. My air compressor is outside, sitting under the eave of the building with a tarp on top, plus half a sheet of that orange ply

Re: [Emc-users] Technique question

2014-07-04 Thread Cecil Thomas
Gene, This is a little off the thread but you might want to consider using one of the black dummy CD's or DVD's that come in a stack of new discs for your encoder disk. I used one of them for the spindle encoder for both the 9 inch grizzly and the Monarch 10EE. The disks are about the right

Re: [Emc-users] Technique question

2014-07-04 Thread Stuart Stevenson
That would be large enough to have some physical instability at high speed. You could also have room to put a number of pickups around it and gain resolution by reading them sequentially. On Jul 4, 2014 7:39 PM, Cecil Thomas wctho...@chartertn.net wrote: Gene, This is a little off the thread

Re: [Emc-users] Technique question

2014-07-04 Thread Cecil Thomas
I can't get more than 4k rpms from either of my lathes and I have not had a stability problem at those speeds. I would have to do a little testing to see if I would go higher (if I had a machine that could do it). The size is easily adjusted. I cut mine on my cnc rotary table on my Millright.

Re: [Emc-users] Technique question

2014-07-04 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 04 July 2014 20:21:22 Cecil Thomas did opine And Gene did reply: Gene, This is a little off the thread Not IMO. ;-) but you might want to consider using one of the black dummy CD's or DVD's that come in a stack of new discs for your encoder disk. I used one of them for the

Re: [Emc-users] Technique question

2014-07-04 Thread rayj
Greetings all, Slightly off topic, but while everyone is thinking about technique I was wondering where I might find a reference for techniques. Something that talks about the things that have been discussed here. When to climb/conventional, number and angle of flutes, plow v rough v finish,

Re: [Emc-users] Technique question

2014-07-04 Thread andy pugh
On 5 July 2014 03:06, rayj raymo...@frontiernet.net wrote: Slightly off topic, but while everyone is thinking about technique I was wondering where I might find a reference for techniques. Not an exact reply to the question asked, but http://zero-divide.net/?page=fswizard Has a large database

[Emc-users] Technique question

2014-07-03 Thread Gene Heskett
Greetings; I'm in the process of making yet another encoder disk for the lathe as I fine tune the code to get the correct width(duty cycle) of the slots, and making the center hole a couple thou bigger as it turns out the high spot corresponds to the peak of the thread where it is sitting on

Re: [Emc-users] Technique question

2014-07-03 Thread Jon Elson
On 07/03/2014 04:18 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: But it occurs to me that this code is dig cutting, meaning the bit as it dulls, will skid rather than shave at first contact and be pushed farther and farther off the line until it snaps. I have been climb milling since 1997, when I got ballscrews

Re: [Emc-users] Technique question

2014-07-03 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 03 July 2014 21:28:00 Jon Elson did opine And Gene did reply: On 07/03/2014 04:18 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: But it occurs to me that this code is dig cutting, meaning the bit as it dulls, will skid rather than shave at first contact and be pushed farther and farther off the line

Re: [Emc-users] Technique question

2014-07-03 Thread Jon Elson
On 07/03/2014 09:27 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: believe I need to figure out a way to certify its accuracy as g2 cut circles seem to have anywhere up to 3 thou, perhaps a bit more of almost random edge wibbles. Difficult when the only dial indicators I have are a 1 travel, .001 scale, and one

Re: [Emc-users] Technique question

2014-07-03 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 04 July 2014 00:28:07 Jon Elson did opine And Gene did reply: On 07/03/2014 09:27 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: believe I need to figure out a way to certify its accuracy as g2 cut circles seem to have anywhere up to 3 thou, perhaps a bit more of almost random edge wibbles. Difficult