Re: [Emc-users] Very low PRM system.

2008-04-23 Thread amtb
Hi I want to describe my understanding for low feed system. I will use direct drive mounting and that mean 5 revolutions for 1 inch of travel per minute. 5 revolution times 360 degree is 1800 degree per 1 inch per minute. 0.0001 travel per minute means system will have 1.8 degree per minute. My

Re: [Emc-users] Very low PRM system.

2008-04-23 Thread Roland Jollivet
Hi I (we?) have no idea of the application, but if the system is always going to operate at low speeds, what about a fat flywheel on the drive motor to smooth things out? Regards Roland On 23/04/2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi I want to describe my understanding for low

Re: [Emc-users] Very low PRM system.

2008-04-23 Thread Peter C. Wallace
] Very low PRM system. Hi I want to describe my understanding for low feed system. I will use direct drive mounting and that mean 5 revolutions for 1 inch of travel per minute. 5 revolution times 360 degree is 1800 degree per 1 inch per minute. 0.0001 travel per minute means system will have 1.8

Re: [Emc-users] Very low PRM system.

2008-04-23 Thread amtb
-users] Very low PRM system. Hi I want to describe my understanding for low feed system. I will use direct drive mounting and that mean 5 revolutions for 1 inch of travel per minute. 5 revolution times 360 degree is 1800 degree per 1 inch per minute. 0.0001 travel per minute means system

Re: [Emc-users] Very low PRM system.

2008-04-23 Thread Peter C. Wallace
Enough for what? At that slow rate (with n o dynamic load) the servo system will basically step one count at a time at the 2.7 Hz rate but each step will only advance 600 nano inches, Are your mechanics good enough that this matters? Even with a variable load +-10 counts should be easy,

Re: [Emc-users] Very low PRM system.

2008-04-23 Thread Jon Elson
Roland Jollivet wrote: Hi I (we?) have no idea of the application, but if the system is always going to operate at low speeds, what about a fat flywheel on the drive motor to smooth things out? You'd need an incredible flywheel to smooth out a motor movong at 1.8 degrees per minute! I

Re: [Emc-users] Very low PRM system.

2008-04-22 Thread amtb
Hi I have 3 questions. First if to make motor work on very low feed – 0.001 per minute need only high resolution encoder than may be needed belt reduction to the encoder shaft only, to get more pulses and not to whole motor shaft. Is this correct? Second, what is reasonable low feed with direct

Re: [Emc-users] Very low PRM system.

2008-04-22 Thread Andre' Blanchard
At 01:09 PM 4/22/2008, you wrote: Hi I have 3 questions. First if to make motor work on very low feed ­ 0.001 per minute need only high resolution encoder than may be needed belt reduction to the encoder shaft only, to get more pulses and not to whole motor shaft. Is this correct? Second, what is

Re: [Emc-users] Very low PRM system.

2008-04-22 Thread Dave Engvall
Hi Aram, I did find a high res encoder at 1250K counts/rev. I'm not really certain that is ppr or in quadrature. Price is in the $1000 range. http://www.opticalencoder.com/pdf/CP-850-950-HHC.pdf Dave On Apr 22, 2008, at 11:09 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi I have 3 questions. First if

Re: [Emc-users] Very low PRM system.

2008-04-22 Thread jros
Hello, I use to read the list to get more insight on different aspects related to EMC. Right now we are facing some problems related to PID tuning. And when I have read this If you have a good analog velocity mode system you can get smooth motion at slow speeds without a high line count

Re: [Emc-users] Very low PRM system.

2008-04-22 Thread Peter C. Wallace
On Tue, 22 Apr 2008, jros wrote: Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2008 22:06:01 +0200 From: jros [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Cc: Casas Olcoz, Alberto [EMAIL PROTECTED], Alberto Casas [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Very low PRM

[Emc-users] Very low PRM system.

2008-04-20 Thread amtb
Hi I want to build system to tool grinder and that means that my system should behave stable on very low RPM. Minimum PRM 0.0001 per minute. I want to use direct drive with ball screw 5 rev per inch or 1 rev for 5 mm in case of metric system. My motors have 8192 pulse per ….. it takes 4x8192 per

Re: [Emc-users] Very low PRM system.

2008-04-20 Thread Thomas J Powderly
Aram, I have no answer but a caution... When you move at .0001/min, will a 'step' of .0001 every minute be ok? I'm not talking about stepper motors, I'm saying some analog servo controls will simply force a jerk of .0001 every minute, They will not move in an analog fashion at that rate.

Re: [Emc-users] Very low PRM system.

2008-04-20 Thread Jon Elson
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi I want to build system to tool grinder and that means that my system should behave stable on very low RPM. Minimum PRM 0.0001 per minute. I want to use direct drive with ball screw 5 rev per inch or 1 rev for 5 mm in case of metric system. My motors have 8192