Re: [Emc-users] Why do dangerous changes suddenly creep in to Linuxcnc and nobody mentions it?

2014-06-06 Thread Steve Blackmore
On Thu, 5 Jun 2014 18:25:52 -0400, you wrote: On Thu, Jun 5, 2014 at 6:19 PM, andy pugh bodge...@gmail.com wrote: Now feed over-ride over-rides the feed rate and max-velocity over-ride over-rides the max-velocity. Seems sensible really, but I can imagine it coming as a surprise. --

Re: [Emc-users] Why do dangerous changes suddenly creep in to Linuxcnc and nobody mentions it?

2014-06-06 Thread Steve Blackmore
On Fri, 06 Jun 2014 09:07:18 +0100, you wrote: On 06/06/14 07:40, Steve Blackmore wrote: They do - but on commercial controls feedrate knob only affects feed, not rapids. On Fanuc systems there is usually a separate switch that says Rapid Override on the control panel that is marked 100%,

[Emc-users] Why do dangerous changes suddenly creep in to Linuxcnc and nobody mentions it?

2014-06-05 Thread Mark Tucker
I have been using the same version of machinekit/Linuxcnc forever and thought i would upgrade. The feed control was controlling the overall feedrate in Feed and rapid moves. Now suddenly it is only controlling the feedrate and not the rapids. Linuxcnc from my point of view is a pain in the

Re: [Emc-users] Why do dangerous changes suddenly creep in to Linuxcnc and nobody mentions it?

2014-06-05 Thread Sebastian Kuzminsky
On 6/5/14 15:44 , Mark Tucker wrote: I have been using the same version of machinekit/Linuxcnc forever and thought i would upgrade. The feed control was controlling the overall feedrate in Feed and rapid moves. Now suddenly it is only controlling the feedrate and not the rapids. Linuxcnc from

Re: [Emc-users] Why do dangerous changes suddenly creep in to Linuxcnc and nobody mentions it?

2014-06-05 Thread Eric Keller
On Thu, Jun 5, 2014 at 5:49 PM, Sebastian Kuzminsky s...@highlab.com wrote: This was mentioned in the upgrade notes that i sent out with the announcement of the new version. It's in the Important Behavior Changes section here: http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?UpdatingTo2.6 You

Re: [Emc-users] Why do dangerous changes suddenly creep in to Linuxcnc and nobody mentions it?

2014-06-05 Thread andy pugh
On 5 June 2014 22:44, Mark Tucker m...@rmtucker.f2s.com wrote: I have been using the same version of machinekit/Linuxcnc forever and thought i would upgrade. The feed control was controlling the overall feedrate in Feed and rapid moves. Now feed over-ride over-rides the feed rate and

Re: [Emc-users] Why do dangerous changes suddenly creep in to Linuxcnc and nobody mentions it?

2014-06-05 Thread Eric Keller
On Thu, Jun 5, 2014 at 6:19 PM, andy pugh bodge...@gmail.com wrote: Now feed over-ride over-rides the feed rate and max-velocity over-ride over-rides the max-velocity. Seems sensible really, but I can imagine it coming as a surprise. -- Obviously, during rapids the tool shouldn't be

Re: [Emc-users] Why do dangerous changes suddenly creep in to Linuxcnc and nobody mentions it?

2014-06-05 Thread yann jautard
Le 06/06/2014 00:25, Eric Keller a écrit : Obviously, during rapids the tool shouldn't be engaged with the work, but most controls just have one feed rate override knob. Now you have to have 2 knobs? Not sure how I feel about that. When I'm not sure of my program, I twiddle the feed rate

Re: [Emc-users] Why do dangerous changes suddenly creep in to Linuxcnc and nobody mentions it?

2014-06-05 Thread sam sokolik
After using the maximum velocity control - I rarely use feedrate override anymore. (just for tweeking the cutting speed.) but really - MV is awesome... (I have 1 mpg and I select between FO, MV, SO, X, Y and Z) sam On 06/05/2014 05:25 PM, Eric Keller wrote: On Thu, Jun 5, 2014 at 6:19 PM,

Re: [Emc-users] Why do dangerous changes suddenly creep in to Linuxcnc and nobody mentions it?

2014-06-05 Thread Mark Tucker
On 05/06/14 23:19, andy pugh wrote: Now feed over-ride over-rides the feed rate and max-velocity over-ride over-rides the max-velocity. Seems sensible really, but I can imagine it coming as a surprise. Really ? Do you actually use it? Take this Scenario:- Max Velocity 2000mm Feed in program

Re: [Emc-users] Why do dangerous changes suddenly creep in to Linuxcnc and nobody mentions it?

2014-06-05 Thread Mark Tucker
Not only that but what happens to the people that have built a control with 1 knob??? By the way you have to fit another one now On 05/06/14 23:46, Mark Tucker wrote: On 05/06/14 23:19, andy pugh wrote: Now feed over-ride over-rides the feed rate and max-velocity over-ride

Re: [Emc-users] Why do dangerous changes suddenly creep in to Linuxcnc and nobody mentions it?

2014-06-05 Thread Pete Matos
Honesty after I upgraded to the newest release recently I felt much the same way as mark. It was better I think with seperate feedrate and rapid overrides. The Max feedrate Works but it can be frustrating. I use my machine apparently much the way Mark does in varying feedrates when running a

Re: [Emc-users] Why do dangerous changes suddenly creep in to Linuxcnc and nobody mentions it?

2014-06-05 Thread andy pugh
On 5 June 2014 23:57, Mark Tucker m...@rmtucker.f2s.com wrote: Not only that but what happens to the people that have built a control with 1 knob??? That's a fair question. I haven't tried it (I use touchy and Axis. In the former the function of the knob is selectable, in the latter I have no

Re: [Emc-users] Why do dangerous changes suddenly creep in to Linuxcnc and nobody mentions it?

2014-06-05 Thread Mark Tucker
On 05/06/14 22:49, Sebastian Kuzminsky wrote: On 6/5/14 15:44 , Mark Tucker wrote: I have been using the same version of machinekit/Linuxcnc forever and thought i would upgrade. The feed control was controlling the overall feedrate in Feed and rapid moves. Now suddenly it is only controlling

Re: [Emc-users] Why do dangerous changes suddenly creep in to Linuxcnc and nobody mentions it?

2014-06-05 Thread sam sokolik
like this? http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.distributions.emc.devel/11144/ sam On 06/05/2014 06:10 PM, Mark Tucker wrote: On 05/06/14 22:49, Sebastian Kuzminsky wrote: On 6/5/14 15:44 , Mark Tucker wrote: I have been using the same version of machinekit/Linuxcnc forever and thought i

Re: [Emc-users] Why do dangerous changes suddenly creep in to Linuxcnc and nobody mentions it?

2014-06-05 Thread Ralph Stirling
, but it is different than the other CNC's I use. -- Ralph From: Mark Tucker [m...@rmtucker.f2s.com] Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2014 3:46 PM To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Why do dangerous changes suddenly creep in to Linuxcnc and nobody

Re: [Emc-users] Why do dangerous changes suddenly creep in to Linuxcnc and nobody mentions it?

2014-06-05 Thread Eric Keller
On Thu, Jun 5, 2014 at 7:04 PM, Pete Matos petefro...@gmail.com wrote: honestly the comments about reading the manual are kinda irritating You really should read the release notes when changing version, you could hurt your machine or yourself. Nobody expects you to read the manual to find

Re: [Emc-users] Why do dangerous changes suddenly creep in to Linuxcnc and nobody mentions it?

2014-06-05 Thread Mark Tucker
On 06/06/14 00:31, sam sokolik wrote: like this? http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.distributions.emc.devel/11144/ sam That was the sum total of the discussion?? Errr i think it should be this way,Ok lets go with it Wow what about the people that actually use it on a daily basis

Re: [Emc-users] Why do dangerous changes suddenly creep in to Linuxcnc and nobody mentions it?

2014-06-05 Thread Mark Tucker
From: Mark Tucker [m...@rmtucker.f2s.com] Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2014 3:46 PM To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Why do dangerous changes suddenly creep in to Linuxcnc and nobody mentions it? On 05/06/14 23:19, andy pugh wrote: Now

Re: [Emc-users] Why do dangerous changes suddenly creep in to Linuxcnc and nobody mentions it?

2014-06-05 Thread Sebastian Kuzminsky
On 06/05/2014 05:39 PM, Ralph Stirling wrote: I have a Mori Seiki CNC lathe with Fanuc 0i-TC control and a Haas TM-1 CNC mill. They both have independent control of feed override and rapids override. I would not expect or want feed override to control rapids or vice-versa. I guess I can