Re: [Emc-users] electrical inspection pain

2021-07-29 Thread Ralph Stirling
: Gregg Eshelman via Emc-users [emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net] Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2021 6:47 PM To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) Cc: Gregg Eshelman Subject: Re: [Emc-users] electrical inspection pain CAUTION: This email originated from outside the Walla Walla University email system

Re: [Emc-users] electrical inspection pain

2021-07-28 Thread Gregg Eshelman via Emc-users
How picky are they in Washington about DIY HVAC? I looked up the relevant code for Idaho and for doing an install on your own residence you don't need a "certificate of competency" but may need to have the install pass a mechanical inspection. (But many HVAC shop techs will insist that ALL such

Re: [Emc-users] electrical inspection pain

2021-07-28 Thread Ed
On 7/28/21 7:26 PM, Ralph Stirling wrote: I just got my inspection report by email. The inspector couldn't even remember that it was a mill, and called it a "lathe". He references RCW 19.28 and WAC 296-46B-903. I think my best option is to use this as an excuse to buy a phase converter. It

Re: [Emc-users] electrical inspection pain

2021-07-28 Thread Ralph Stirling
visit after I finish installing my ductless heat pump anyway. -- Ralph From: Bari [bari00...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2021 3:06 PM To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Emc-users] electrical inspection pain CAUTION: This email originated fr

Re: [Emc-users] electrical inspection pain

2021-07-28 Thread Scott Harwell via Emc-users
I would go with unhooking the mill and hook up a table saw with UL listing. Years ago, the surefire way to fail was to clean up the copper scrap before the inspection (the scrap would disappear) and you got your green tag.I never knew what happened to the scrap. Scott On Wednesday, July

Re: [Emc-users] electrical inspection pain

2021-07-28 Thread Bari
Replace mill with UL approved saw or similar for $100 off CL (if you don't already have one). Call for inspection. On 7/28/21 2:14 PM, Ralph Stirling wrote: I'm in a bind now. I just had the electrical wiring I put into my garage shop inspected. The WA state inspector liked my wiring fine,

Re: [Emc-users] electrical inspection pain

2021-07-28 Thread Milosz K.
He is referencing state statue WAC 296-46B-903. 2005 NEC phased in a listed requirement in Article 110. I'm not sure how it has evolved but there might be exceptions now, though, state requirements usually prevail over NEC in my experience. Could be a dead end but worth a look. I faced this

Re: [Emc-users] electrical inspection pain

2021-07-28 Thread jeanfrancois
Hi, Why not contact UL themselves to ask more informations ? They may be helpful if you join a desctription of you machine on how this would be applicable and give hints on how to handle the certification. What I don't get is which parts need be certified, like small motors and so on, is the

Re: [Emc-users] electrical inspection pain

2021-07-28 Thread John Figie
After thinking about it more this seems ridiculous. You are not running a machining business, you are building your own machines for personal use. Why can't you just say you are a machine developer just like any other business that develops products. Things developed in the labs are not UL listed

Re: [Emc-users] electrical inspection pain

2021-07-28 Thread John Figie
My electrical inspector (in WI) never looked at my LinuxCNC machines closely but they look like Bridgeports. He was only concerned with the building wiring. I would move the machine to a storage unit, and replace it with a bench and hand tools, then call the inspector and say you "got rid" of the

Re: [Emc-users] electrical inspection pain

2021-07-28 Thread Bari
https://www.intertek.com/field-labeling/ If moving the mill out for re-inspection or other plans fail. On 7/28/21 2:14 PM, Ralph Stirling wrote: I'm in a bind now. I just had the electrical wiring I put into my garage shop inspected. The WA state inspector liked my wiring fine, but balked at

Re: [Emc-users] electrical inspection pain

2021-07-28 Thread dave engvall
Although electrical inspectors tend to be a  power unto themselves they still have to follow the rules. i.e. WAC's and local and national electrical codes. Be as gentle as possible they tend to be prickly. Being WW they no doubt see a bunch of EU stuff for wineries. Clearly the machine didn't

Re: [Emc-users] electrical inspection pain

2021-07-28 Thread jrmitchellj
In Los Angeles City, County, and in Burbank (where I work), it has been the rule that everything used in a facility must carry the UL tag or a testing certificate from an accredited testing facility. It has been this way for a few decades now! that is when lots of companies started to use UL

Re: [Emc-users] electrical inspection pain

2021-07-28 Thread Dave Cole
IMO, your building inspector is stepping way outside of his authority. His job is "building" inspection.   You got a permit for your "building" project.    Not for some machine sitting in your building. Unless your mill is part of the "building",  he is way outside of his authority. If your

Re: [Emc-users] electrical inspection pain

2021-07-28 Thread Chris Albertson
Is the mill hard-wired or powered with a plug into a wall outlet? If the mill plugs in then remove the power cord and place a plastic tarp over the mill and have it re-inspected. The inspector is not able to comment on what you might use the outlet for in the future. If he asks, tell him you

Re: [Emc-users] electrical inspection pain

2021-07-28 Thread Ed
On 7/28/21 2:14 PM, Ralph Stirling wrote: I'm in a bind now. I just had the electrical wiring I put into my garage shop inspected. The WA state inspector liked my wiring fine, but balked at the non-UL-listed CNC mill (the main point to my whole garage shop project). He insists it get stamped

[Emc-users] electrical inspection pain

2021-07-28 Thread Ralph Stirling
I'm in a bind now. I just had the electrical wiring I put into my garage shop inspected. The WA state inspector liked my wiring fine, but balked at the non-UL-listed CNC mill (the main point to my whole garage shop project). He insists it get stamped by one of the *seven* official "approved