Re: [Emc-users] Ethernet, rtai, and rtnet

2008-12-28 Thread Jon Elson
Kenneth Lerman wrote: Remember that the issue on ethernet will not be throughput; it will be latency. I'm sure Jon can give you a profile of what he is doing. How many bytes in a send packet? How many bytes is a receive packet? Cycle time? OK, the current latency is VERY short per

Re: [Emc-users] Ethernet runs to barns and such

2008-12-28 Thread Jon Elson
Stuart Stevenson wrote: Gentlemen, I have used BPL in my home for years. I am connected through it now. I have wireless now but have not changed this box as it just works. snip I don't know if this has interfered with any ham operators near me. If my home adapters interfere how

Re: [Emc-users] Ethernet, rtai, and rtnet

2008-12-28 Thread Jon Elson
Stephen Wille Padnos wrote: I don't know the specifics of how to deal with the incoming packets on the PC (or the specifics of how to send them, for that matter :) ), but I'm pretty sure data throughput won't be an issue. Latency is unlikely to be either, unless there's some very complex

Re: [Emc-users] Ethernet, rtai, and rtnet

2008-12-28 Thread Jon Elson
Sebastian Kuzminsky wrote: Stephen Wille Padnos wrote: A standard ethernet frame has to be 512 bits (64 bytes) long. This includes ethernet framing info, and I think the net payload is 46 bytes for a minimum packet. This is aside from any UDP/IP or TCP/IP addressing or protocol

Re: [Emc-users] Ethernet, rtai, and rtnet

2008-12-28 Thread Jon Elson
Kenneth Lerman wrote: Jon, Don't use rtnet. Just use ethernet point to point to replace a parallel port. Then there is NO net stack. Just use raw ethernet packets. Overhead is then a few dozen bytes. OK, but is there an ethernet driver that is callable within the rt environment? I may

Re: [Emc-users] Ethernet, rtai, and rtnet

2008-12-28 Thread Jon Elson
Stephen Wille Padnos wrote: I agree with Ken - you don't need RTNet unless you want to have multiple slave devices and all that stuff. It could still be useful since the master defines the timebase (at least in one mode, AFAIK), so the master could send one sync packet, then have all the

Re: [Emc-users] Questions about axis display and key remapping.

2008-12-30 Thread Jon Elson
Chris Morley wrote: Hi guys this is from cnc zone. Any comments? I'm sure I remember reading about getting Axis not to display unused axis. I looked in the manual and couldn't find anything. The important thing is you need to be running a brand NEW version of EMC2. I think only the

Re: [Emc-users] PCB routing on a CNC mill

2009-01-03 Thread Jon Elson
Gene Heskett wrote: On Saturday 03 January 2009, Dean Hedin wrote: Take this one for example: http://www.hobby-lobby.com/brushless-gazaur.htm The R/C motors are rated with Kv. Which means rpms per volt with no load. The above motor is rated at 4100kv and can go up to 12volts. So that

Re: [Emc-users] OT: PDP11

2009-01-03 Thread Jon Elson
Dave Engvall wrote: Anyone really remember how many interrupts an 11 really had. I'm thinking 256 but haven't found the book to confirm that. I think it was actually unlimited, up to filling the entire address space. Now, off the shelf boards didn't support that, and some of the

Re: [Emc-users] PCB routing on a CNC mill

2009-01-03 Thread Jon Elson
Gene Heskett wrote: Interesting. The length of the radial portion of the bearing must be fairly short then? The radial bearing sections are about 3/4 long, I think. These are combo hydrostatic/hydrodynamic bearings. I once had a hose blow off while drilling a hole, and waited until the

Re: [Emc-users] OT: PDP11

2009-01-03 Thread Jon Elson
Ron Ginger wrote: Ok, I cant let this one go without a comment. I joined DEC as a sales engineer in the Ann Arbor Michigan office in Feb 1969. That was still PDP8 days, the 11 didnt come until 1970. We had a series of application systems we sold on PDP8's, and as I recall one of them was

Re: [Emc-users] PCB routing on a CNC mill

2009-01-03 Thread Jon Elson
Dean Hedin wrote: Jon, that is overkill for PCB routing. I have a pcb routing spindle motor right here in front of me and it is not much more than a hobby dc motor. Well, it depends on what you are going to be doing. I have drilled .018 holes (.457 mm) with the Westwind, and I'm sure it

Re: [Emc-users] OT: PDP11

2009-01-03 Thread Jon Elson
Dave Engvall wrote: It is amazing how many DEC users, etc come crawling out of the woodwork. All of them with great stories about how things used to be. With all this architectural experience there ought to be some strongly held opinions on a processor chip that would do a good job on

Re: [Emc-users] PCB routing on a CNC mill

2009-01-03 Thread Jon Elson
Gene Heskett wrote: Something that wasn't actually because I was thinking of braced up dremels or Proxxon's. OTOH, I imagine the Rockwell/Precise offering is also outragiously priced, way out of my league, so that most certainly should have been taken as a jest. But at the time, I was

Re: [Emc-users] OT: PDP11

2009-01-04 Thread Jon Elson
Matt Shaver wrote: On Sat, 2009-01-03 at 21:38 -0800, Rafael Skodlar wrote: No modern PC with water cooling, tons of LEDs, or shiny fans look as good as PDP-8 or PDP-11/44 front panels. You could tell what system was doing just by looking at LEDs. I know what you mean, I started my

Re: [Emc-users] OT: PDP11

2009-01-04 Thread Jon Elson
Gene Heskett wrote: On Sunday 04 January 2009, Peter C. Wallace wrote: On the other hand you can do a lot with a embedded 32 bit processor in a FPGA (the ZPU for example uses about 20% of a 400K SP3, runs at ~ 100 MHz, is BSD licensed and has a GCC toolchain) Which again,

Re: [Emc-users] A wish - Closed Loop Steppers

2009-01-04 Thread Jon Elson
Roger wrote: It's unfortunate that there isn't a way to approximate closed loop control with steppers and encoders in EMC2. I have read that EMC2 can detect a following error using steppers with encoders and trigger a fault which is great but this doesn't really allow the use of steppers in

Re: [Emc-users] A wish - Closed Loop Steppers

2009-01-04 Thread Jon Elson
Stephen Wille Padnos wrote: Roger wrote: If a step motor loses a step due to excessive loading, then it's likely to miss many steps. The one motor will be stalled while the software ramps the speed down on the other joints, so the part is already likelly to be ruined. At some

Re: [Emc-users] OT: PDP11

2009-01-04 Thread Jon Elson
Mark Wendt (Contractor) wrote: Jon, You sure you didn't bring home a Vax workstation? I had a bunch of those, and they were built in the pizza box config that the early desktops were like. The Micro-Vax was still a server, though it was a bit smaller than the 6000 series...

Re: [Emc-users] PCB routing on a CNC mill

2009-01-04 Thread Jon Elson
Gene Heskett wrote: On Sunday 04 January 2009, Jon Elson wrote: Gene Heskett wrote: Interesting. The length of the radial portion of the bearing must be fairly short then? The radial bearing sections are about 3/4 long, I think. These are combo hydrostatic/hydrodynamic

Re: [Emc-users] Was OT: PDP11

2009-01-04 Thread Jon Elson
real problems I'd think. Jon Elson has a lot of eperience with this, as well as Peter Wallace. I don't think it was me :) A plain old I/O card with 8255s or similar, connected via PCI bus, should be faster than a parport. Parallel ports have extra delay logic to make sure

Re: [Emc-users] A wish - Closed Loop Steppers

2009-01-04 Thread Jon Elson
Roger wrote: Gene, What I was thinking about was using steppers to reliably power big iron on the Bridgeport scale. Kelinginc.net sells big steppers (nema 34, 1800 oz) for $180. If you add an encoder and a G203V 80 volt/20 amp drive you are under $400 per axis. Well, if you restrict

Re: [Emc-users] OT: PDP11

2009-01-04 Thread Jon Elson
Gene Heskett wrote: On Sunday 04 January 2009, Jon Elson wrote: Gene Heskett wrote: On Sunday 04 January 2009, Peter C. Wallace wrote: On the other hand you can do a lot with a embedded 32 bit processor in a FPGA (the ZPU for example uses about 20% of a 400K SP3, runs

Re: [Emc-users] OT: PDP11

2009-01-04 Thread Jon Elson
Dave Engvall wrote: snip since I didn't find Jon's post on the interrupt process. Some reading of pdp wiki, etc refreshes memory (slowly). There were 4 interrupt lines which gave only 4 levels of interrupt. Then interrupts were further arbitrated by the position of the interrupting

Re: [Emc-users] PCB routing on a CNC mill

2009-01-04 Thread Jon Elson
Gene Heskett wrote: If you have the drawings on the VFD, I don't imagine getting it up above 400 would be a very difficult task. How much voltage is available for its output stage? It is all controlled by a microcontroller, and about 150 setup parameters entered through the

Re: [Emc-users] PCB routing on a CNC mill

2009-01-05 Thread Jon Elson
Gene Heskett wrote: On Sunday 04 January 2009, Jon Elson wrote: Gene Heskett wrote: If you have the drawings on the VFD, I don't imagine getting it up above 400 would be a very difficult task. How much voltage is available for its output stage? It is all controlled

Re: [Emc-users] Steppers with Encoders

2009-01-06 Thread Jon Elson
Stuart Stevenson wrote: Gentlemen, I have seen (youtube) the conversion of an automotive alternator to a stepper motor. The fields are pulsed and no motion occurs until the rotor has dc voltage applied. Would it be possible to use this type of stepper to overcome some of the speed and

Re: [Emc-users] Steppers with Encoders

2009-01-06 Thread Jon Elson
Stuart Stevenson wrote: Gentlemen, My suggestion was to use a stepper of a type built like an alternator. If that concept would be useful. Just throwing out ideas. It may not be feasible but who knows? Definitely not me. :) Even an 8-pole alternator would only have 32 full steps/rev.

Re: [Emc-users] Estop universal PWM

2009-01-06 Thread Jon Elson
Kasey Matejcek wrote: Is there a way to have emc come out of estop and be in estop reset When I hit the reset button for the estop chain on my machine Witch pin do I need to link to to make this happen I've messed around and haven't got anywere to speak of I tied ppmc.0din.14.in to

Re: [Emc-users] Seconded: Jeff Epler

2009-01-06 Thread Jon Elson
sam sokolik wrote: well - he is just wicked smart. (plus if you mention a mod in passing - 10 minutes later it is done) ;) Well, at last one where I'm fast enough to second it! He was really helpful at the Fest to set up a filter on the jog dial I was hooking up! Jon

Re: [Emc-users] The Future of Realtime, The Past and The Present Meet.

2009-01-07 Thread Jon Elson
Organic Engines wrote: Hi, The future of Realtime. Processor emulation with an FPGA. http://portal.acm.org/citation.cfm?id=1216927 Here is your PDP replacement. http://neil.franklin.ch/Projects/PDP-10/ The second ref is an impressive intellectual exercise, but in no way is

Re: [Emc-users] Estop universal PWM

2009-01-07 Thread Jon Elson
Kasey Matejcek wrote: Thanks for the help I've got it working now Had to do to things add the or2 to the servo thread my stuiped mistake Than I had to have reset.ok high before reseting the estop-latch.0.reset Now on my machine when the estop chain is complete my machine is in Estopreset and

Re: [Emc-users] Motherboard recommendation, WIKI seems not up to date

2009-01-07 Thread Jon Elson
Thomas Kaiser wrote: Hello All I am looking for a MB witch is good for running EMC2. I have been using off-lease Dell Optiplex boxes for some time with excellent results. Most of these are working well with the on-mobo video, but one of them does have poor latency. I use that

Re: [Emc-users] 5i20/7i43 Pico's PWM Amps

2009-01-09 Thread Jon Elson
Roger wrote: Is anyone using Jon's (Pico Systems) PWM servo amps with the Mesa 5i20 or 7i43? If so could you please post your ini files to postbin.com . I'm interested in converting from Mach3 Gecko's to EMC PWM and would like to see a working configuration. Well, of course, you could

Re: [Emc-users] Simple 3 phase drive

2009-01-09 Thread Jon Elson
John Kasunich wrote: Is this for a permanent magnet AC servomotor, or just an induction motor? It seems like for a servomotor you'd need a current loop, which implies current feedback, which implies A/D converters. Or is it possible to get decent performance from such a motor with an

Re: [Emc-users] Simple 3 phase drive

2009-01-09 Thread Jon Elson
Peter C. Wallace wrote: Permanent magnet servo motor. Its possible to get very good performance without a current loop at least for small motors, you may need to add a phase lead feed forward term for very high drive speeds. Of course it is closed loop in the sense that drive voltage is

Re: [Emc-users] 5i20/7i43 Pico's PWM Amps

2009-01-10 Thread Jon Elson
Roger wrote: Jon, If you start with a blank slate your Universal PWM is a good cost effective solution that simplifies hardware and software setup and provides for Opto22 relays. In my case though I already have a Mesa card (won at Cardinal raffle), 50 pin breakout panels and I installed

Re: [Emc-users] 5i20-error

2009-01-10 Thread Jon Elson
Tom wrote: Hello Tom, Doing the test I forget to ground the new motor and there was some kind of problem, that when I measured the tension between the PC ground and the machinery ground I detected 5v to 35v. ... Arnold Arnold, Thanks, that is understandable.

Re: [Emc-users] 5i20-error

2009-01-11 Thread Jon Elson
Tom wrote: Jon Elson el...@... writes: Oh oh! ... The Excellon drive may have had one motor pole grounded, and that may be tied to frame ground. Certainly not a great scheme, but they all seem to use 3-wire cables. I know my motor is completely floating, but that doesn't

Re: [Emc-users] Telnet Interface Questions

2009-01-12 Thread Jon Elson
Mark Wendt (Contractor) wrote: Realistic? I get messages from my intrusion detectors every day of folks from all over the world scanning my ports, trying to find a way in. They hit a block of IP addresses and scan all of them in that block. A very effective way to stop this is to use

Re: [Emc-users] EMC2 and Hardy 8.04

2009-01-14 Thread Jon Elson
Chris Radek wrote: On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 08:05:53PM -0800, Alan Condit wrote: OK, I finally got my machine hooked up to the web for long enough to do all the updates and got EMC2-2.2.8 running. Now I am still getting the venetian blinds. I tried all the fixes that I could find, but

Re: [Emc-users] RES: Successful Emc2 conversion (happy dance...)

2009-01-15 Thread Jon Elson
Tom wrote: Hi Steve, Those are tapered walls. The contours for those pockets are about 50 thou inset at the bottom of the pocket, so the walls are that much thicker down there. It might be worth investigating using a 3/8 endmill with a 1/16 radius end. That would give some gradation to each

Re: [Emc-users] joint 1 on limit switch error

2009-01-16 Thread Jon Elson
Kirk Wallace wrote: On Fri, 2009-01-16 at 09:12 +, Tom wrote: Gene Heskett gene.hesk...@... writes: snip... That pretty much leaves noise pickup or ground loops. All grounds should be star topology and tied well to the 3rd pin of a power plug. Shielding on cables should

Re: [Emc-users] RES: Successful Emc2 conversion (happy dance...)

2009-01-16 Thread Jon Elson
John Kasunich wrote: One thing to keep in mind when considering the tapered end mill idea is chatter. The existing stepped design limits the depth of cut (width of cutting edge engaged) to the height of one step. If you use a tapered end mill, the cutting edge will be engaged in the cut

Re: [Emc-users] EMC2 and Hardy 8.04 - resurrected!

2009-01-20 Thread Jon Elson
John Kasunich wrote: Len Shelton wrote: Anyone know how to find and/or calculate the hsyncstart, hsyncend, htotal, vsyncstart, vsyncend, and vtotal values for a given monitor? The manual does not have this info. Len Google modeline. It's been ages since I did that, and I

Re: [Emc-users] jog does not stop!

2009-01-24 Thread Jon Elson
John Kasunich wrote: Thomas Kaiser wrote: Hi I replaced the CNC controller of a Schaublin 125 CNC with emc2. So far I can move both axis (x, z) in jog mode and can home them. But when I jog with max speed (3000mm/sec) the axis still moves after I released the arrow button.

Re: [Emc-users] I've got a few questions on servos

2009-01-31 Thread Jon Elson
Wes S wrote: I personally don't like open loop. I know you can use steppers and encoders but I don't see the benefit there over servo motors. If I'm not totally off track, I understand EMC can take encoder feedback. What boards are typically used? What drives are usually used in servo

Re: [Emc-users] G-code noob question

2009-02-03 Thread Jon Elson
Marty Swartz wrote: I hate to pull the conversation down from its usual high level, but I have a basic, hopefully simple question about G-code and cutter compensation. I've been gnawing my way through Joe Martin's instructions / tutorial, and there's something I can't quite get my head around.

Re: [Emc-users] How to turn the spindle / coolant on to resume after program stop ?

2009-02-04 Thread Jon Elson
Tom wrote: Hi all, In an earlier post I commented on pausing Emc2/Axis in the middle of a cut in order to clear swarf and the problem of using the stop button which turns off the spindle and coolant: how to set next line and resume where you left off when the spindle and coolant are off?

Re: [Emc-users] How to turn the spindle / coolant on to resume after program stop ?

2009-02-04 Thread Jon Elson
Tom wrote: Thank you Jon Yes, from searching the forum for spindle restart threads I gathered basically the same conclusion. I didn't mean to poke around in an old wound... I will look into beta testing ver. 2.3 and maybe have a go at it. Oh, I DON'T mind! This has been just about

Re: [Emc-users] beaglebone linuxcnc MPG

2014-01-19 Thread Jon Elson
On 01/19/2014 05:51 PM, Josiah Morgan wrote: hey, I was wondering if it was possible to use a pendant/mpg with the machineKit build. if so, what encoder/pulse counter would I need to use in the touchy HAL file? if not, what is the best alternative that would work for machineKit? thanks in

Re: [Emc-users] Conversion Suggesions?

2014-01-22 Thread Jon Elson
On 01/21/2014 11:10 PM, Jeshua Lacock wrote: Greetings, I am the proud new owner of an Bolton Tools AT750 combination lathe and mill see here: http://3DTOPO.com/Bolton-AT750.jpg I am super impressed with the machine so far. Ugh, we have a somewhat similar machine at work, it is pretty

Re: [Emc-users] Conversion Suggesions?

2014-01-22 Thread Jon Elson
On 01/22/2014 05:58 PM, Jeshua Lacock wrote: Hmmm, what machine are you referring to? I just checked and I have full 8x12x3 inches of travel for the mill. Well, yours seems to have the adjustable head height, ours doesn't. It also sounds like yours may be overall a larger machine that ours.

Re: [Emc-users] Conversion Suggesions?

2014-01-22 Thread Jon Elson
On 01/22/2014 08:41 PM, Jon Elson wrote: 570 Oz-In is a lot, but of course, that is only at standstill. But, they should do fine, especially with a belt reduction. 5 A will require the big Gecko 203 drive. For that, you might consider Gecko's servo motors and our PWM servo drives

Re: [Emc-users] Servo replacement for stepper

2014-01-23 Thread Jon Elson
On 01/23/2014 04:45 AM, Tomaz T. wrote: I have rotation stage as shown on picture below, and would need some recommendations which servo motor to choose for replacing stepper (nema17 frame size). Stage has 180:1 ratio. See http://www.automationtechnologiesinc.com/ for some decently priced

Re: [Emc-users] Conversion Suggesions?

2014-01-26 Thread Jon Elson
I just don't worry about this idiot problem. If you've seen the picture of the $600 million NOAA weather satellite that fell over and got smashed in 2003, I just know that no matter HOW stupid a mistake I ever make, it will NEVER come close to that one! It cost Lockheed $150 million to fix, and

Re: [Emc-users] Encoder Index Support Survey

2014-01-26 Thread Jon Elson
On 01/26/2014 11:54 AM, Charles Steinkuehler wrote: I'm working on adding software encoder support to the BeagleBone PRU code. Counting up/down is easy, but I'm wondering how to deal with the index pulses. Both the Mesa VHDL code and the existing software encoder component have quite a

Re: [Emc-users] More stepgens with BeagleBone

2014-01-26 Thread Jon Elson
On 01/26/2014 02:04 PM, Andrew wrote: Standard X rules apply, since it's a standard X program. Select via left button. Insert via shiftinsert or the middle mouse button if you have one (my mice don't and the click both left-and-right for middle doesn't seem to be working). That's called

Re: [Emc-users] Machinekit Gui

2014-01-27 Thread Jon Elson
On 01/27/2014 08:06 AM, John Prentice (FS) wrote: The Contour product is of course aimed at video editing but does CNC very well as it is practically impossible to accidentally move the machine. Joysticks are a bit too easy to knock for my liking. Well, I made a jog pendant with an MPG

Re: [Emc-users] MPG ilowpass vs limit2/3

2014-01-27 Thread Jon Elson
On 01/27/2014 08:09 PM, Stephen Dubovsky wrote: We have MPG 'banging' on two machines that are tuned fast and I just found the 'ilowpass' example fix online: http://linuxcnc.org/docs/html/examples/mpg.html Looks to be a FIR filter. I had actually found the 'limit2' and 'limit3' functions

Re: [Emc-users] Tormach mill, unique design or Chinese inside?

2014-01-27 Thread Jon Elson
On 01/27/2014 10:16 PM, Gregg Eshelman wrote: Is the Tormach mill a design unique to that company or do they take some off the shelf Chinese mill and wrap it up all fancy with added parts? I think, from talking to the Tormach guys at some meetings, that it started out as made from some pretty

Re: [Emc-users] MPG ilowpass vs limit2/3

2014-01-28 Thread Jon Elson
On 01/28/2014 05:01 AM, andy pugh wrote: I haven't used it myself, so I am not sure how the on-screen display of mm-per-click and the actual mm-per-click are sorted out. Using the ilowpass, you can actually hear the last few integer steps come out after you stop moving the MPG. The way I

Re: [Emc-users] Conversion Suggesions?

2014-01-30 Thread Jon Elson
On 01/30/2014 04:23 AM, Mark Wendt wrote: Automation Technology is Keling. The Automation Tech web site is the current one. Dunno why John keeps the old site up and running other than as a visual redirect. He ought to scrap the entire old site and leave a dummy page with a link to the new

Re: [Emc-users] MPG pendant

2014-02-06 Thread Jon Elson
On 02/06/2014 05:41 AM, bruno wrote: Alternatively, I am pretty sure this type http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Universal-CNC-4-Axis-MPG-Pendant-Handwheel-Emergency-stop-for-Siemens-FAGOR/1594520156.html would be easy to integrate as it appears as just a bunch of switches and quadrature

Re: [Emc-users] Cincinnati arrow 500 retrofit running 2.6 revert back to 2.5.3?

2014-02-07 Thread Jon Elson
On 02/06/2014 11:48 PM, Pete Matos wrote: My question is if I wanted to switch back to 2.5.3 stable release how big of a pain in the ass is that gonna be LOL. One way is to install all the prerequisites to build from source, and then build a run-in-place version from source. This allows you

Re: [Emc-users] MPG pendant

2014-02-09 Thread Jon Elson
On 02/09/2014 08:50 AM, Pete Matos wrote: This is one of the things on the high priority list for the VMC here to me. I can really see that it would be nice to have and setting up jobs would be that much easier. My waterproof and debris proof keyboard is great but one of those would come in

Re: [Emc-users] MPG pendant

2014-02-10 Thread Jon Elson
On 02/10/2014 01:35 AM, Marcus Bowman wrote: Nice and straightforward. Is that a 100 pulse per turn encoder? Does that give enough resolution? 100 pulses gives 400 counts in quadrature, so it is more than enough. I divide the scale factors by 4, so I have .01, .001, and .0001 per click of

Re: [Emc-users] EMC2 to Control a 3D Printer

2014-02-10 Thread Jon Elson
On 02/10/2014 06:54 AM, Steve wrote: I am interested in using EMC2 to control a 3D printer. You really want to talk to Charles Steinkuehler, he is in the forefront of doing this. He is concentrating mostly on using the Beagle Bone black computer instead of a PC, but knows all the ins and outs of

Re: [Emc-users] Fanuc 420F 6-axis robot

2014-02-10 Thread Jon Elson
On 02/10/2014 03:45 AM, Daniel Duesentrieb wrote: Folks, I am trying to get this servo moving with the drivers from Pico-Systems. I am going to wire like this: http://pico-systems.com/images/fanuc.pdf But here is my question: What about the 2 (one on the servo, one on the red cab

Re: [Emc-users] Fanuc 420F 6-axis robot

2014-02-10 Thread Jon Elson
On 02/10/2014 08:46 PM, Jon Elson wrote: Oh, I should have mentioned, the encoder and Fanuc converter will work fine if you just leave that connector with nothing connected to it. Jon -- Android apps run on BlackBerry

Re: [Emc-users] Fanuc 420F 6-axis robot

2014-02-11 Thread Jon Elson
On 02/11/2014 07:23 AM, Duesentrieb Yahoo wrote: thank you jon there is also a 2 pin connector at the black part if the motor. right beside the 4 pin power connector. what about this one? i think it is the brake. ist that right. please see here:

Re: [Emc-users] Fanuc 420F 6-axis robot

2014-02-11 Thread Jon Elson
On 02/11/2014 07:39 AM, Duesentrieb Yahoo wrote: video about the brake: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lXUScv7R8Ikfeature=youtube_gdata_player so i am planing to connect the brake direkt after the main transformer. ca. 80VAC is that ok? I think Fanuc brakes are DC, not AC. Jon

Re: [Emc-users] Fanuc 420F 6-axis robot

2014-02-11 Thread Jon Elson
On 02/11/2014 01:21 PM, Duesentrieb Yahoo wrote: have not 80v dc. could take 120vdc. witch is plus, A or B ? I'm pretty sure the polarity doesn't matter. But, if the brakes are designed for 80 V DC, 120 V will likely burn out the coils. Power goes up as the SQUARE of voltage, so 120 V is

Re: [Emc-users] Multiple INI files

2014-02-12 Thread Jon Elson
On 02/11/2014 11:34 PM, Marius Liebenberg wrote: Hi Chris The reason I would like to think I need it is because I test a lot of different configs and code on the same machine (hardware ) for instance. This means that I have to redo the INI file for every test. I normally end up being

Re: [Emc-users] Multiple INI files

2014-02-12 Thread Jon Elson
On 02/11/2014 11:34 PM, Marius Liebenberg wrote: Hi Chris The reason I would like to think I need it is because I test a lot of different configs and code on the same machine (hardware ) for instance. This means that I have to redo the INI file for every test. I normally end up being

Re: [Emc-users] LinuxCNC on Ubuntu Precise 12.04 with RTAI

2014-02-12 Thread Jon Elson
On 02/12/2014 01:53 PM, Charles Buckley wrote: Hello, I am hitting that bug with my D525. Connecting to a G540. What are the specifics of the bug? Why is it not accepting EPP? The BIOS reports that the on-mobo parport does not support EPP mode, even though it does. Earlier versions

Re: [Emc-users] off sub geography

2014-02-14 Thread Jon Elson
On 02/14/2014 11:33 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: On Saturday 15 February 2014 00:29:44 jeremy youngs did opine: i like south central mo myself . im looking forward to finally getting back to my 17 acres there. as this 2 yrs helping dad in upstate has really made me see why i left 20 yrs ago

Re: [Emc-users] off sub geography

2014-02-15 Thread Jon Elson
On 02/15/2014 12:10 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: All I got was audio, probably my fault, but that river was sure letting you know it was there! Strange. You probably need to load some damn codec to view an MOV file. I have all the possible codecs loaded on my system, some of them require

Re: [Emc-users] off sub geography

2014-02-15 Thread Jon Elson
On 02/15/2014 04:00 PM, Stuart Stevenson wrote: Jeremy, All this talk about the Current River and 11 point is familiar to me. I know only the names and locations. I don't know the land well. I have a machine shop in Eminence. You should know where that is if you have only been gone for two

Re: [Emc-users] off sub geography

2014-02-15 Thread Jon Elson
On 02/15/2014 08:29 PM, Stuart Stevenson wrote: The shop is just south of downtown and a block west of the main street. We probably drove right past it, but didn't know! Unless you would have been there, we wouldn't have known anybody there, anyway. Jon

Re: [Emc-users] off sub geography

2014-02-16 Thread Jon Elson
On 02/15/2014 11:52 PM, Stuart Stevenson wrote: I am not from Eminence. I have had the shop since Dec 2000. I have spent quite a bit of time there but not enough to know a lot of people outside the shop. I know Ruby's TT and Orchard's and Joanne's for eating. When you drive south past the

Re: [Emc-users] BBB variable voltage output for spindle speed

2014-02-16 Thread Jon Elson
On 16 Feb 2014, at 05:07, Jared Turner wrote: I'm still working with trying to get programatic speed control from my BBB. My driver requires a 0-10v signal or a 10k pot to control speed. You could try feeding PWM from the BBB to an RC integrator, and then amplify that to feed the voltage

Re: [Emc-users] off sub geography

2014-02-17 Thread Jon Elson
On 02/17/2014 06:28 AM, Mark Wendt wrote: Are you guys talking about an area anywhere near Mt Home Arkansas? I've been sorta following this discussion, but not very closely. I go out there each fall in October to visit some very close friends (they're like family to me), do some fishing

Re: [Emc-users] off sub geography

2014-02-18 Thread Jon Elson
On 02/18/2014 04:21 AM, Mark Wendt wrote: Eminence is about 103 miles from my buddy's place and Alton is even closer at around 70 miles. H. ;-) Mark Hmmm, maybe we should have an Ozarks CNC fest sometime, or just a get together. The location is primitive, there is electricity, but no

Re: [Emc-users] off sub geography

2014-02-18 Thread Jon Elson
On 02/18/2014 12:45 PM, Stuart Stevenson wrote: We could probably have internet with cell service. 4G is fast Well, I've thought about it. This friend is thinking about providing internet access to the island in the Pacific he just bought 95% of. It is 300 miles from anyplace that has

Re: [Emc-users] off sub geography

2014-02-18 Thread Jon Elson
On 02/18/2014 05:23 PM, jeremy youngs wrote: a central ozarks get together sounds very good , im currently awaiting news from bermuda on this dive job , that may keep me away at the mentioned time but i am certain when i get back i will be visiting some of you fine folks. big john its great to

Re: [Emc-users] Knee mill conversion - Z axis questions

2014-02-18 Thread Jon Elson
On 02/18/2014 07:59 PM, John Alexander Stewart wrote: Hi all; may be off topic, but am wondering about converting my Centec 2B mill to CNC. X,Y axes are relatively easy; Z is difficult. Is there any real need to convert the Z axis, assuming that the weight of the table will keep the backlash

Re: [Emc-users] Knee mill conversion - Z axis questions

2014-02-19 Thread Jon Elson
On 02/19/2014 06:45 AM, John Alexander Stewart wrote: Jeremy, Jon; Good answers. Jon - yes, it's a horizontal mill, but I have the geared head with quill, and have only used the horizontal arm once, so apologies for forgetting that it's a horizontal mill originally. OK, so you want to rig

Re: [Emc-users] off sub geography

2014-02-19 Thread Jon Elson
On 02/19/2014 08:51 AM, Dave Cole wrote: What system does Dishnetwork use for internet via satellite? I believe dish is one-way download only. So, you command what you want to load via a phone modem, and they send everybody's downloads on one channel on the satellite. I can only imagine the

Re: [Emc-users] off sub geography

2014-02-19 Thread Jon Elson
On 02/19/2014 04:41 PM, Stuart Stevenson wrote: Jon, Do you have a people limit? No, not really, as long as the weather is good. There are some tricky details. The road down to the cabin is quite rough, we do it in a Honda van, but it is tricky, and if it rains we park at the top and

Re: [Emc-users] Crackling motors using Beaglebone

2014-02-20 Thread Jon Elson
On 02/20/2014 12:01 PM, Charles Steinkuehler wrote: Peter's solution will work. I was going to add a dead-band to the PID control internal to the HAL component that talks to the PRU, but Peter's suggestion of pushing the PID outside the PRU driver and into HAL makes a lot more sense. I might

Re: [Emc-users] Crackling motors using Beaglebone

2014-02-21 Thread Jon Elson
On 02/20/2014 11:47 PM, Jon Elson wrote: On 02/20/2014 12:01 PM, Charles Steinkuehler wrote: Peter's solution will work. I was going to add a dead-band to the PID control internal to the HAL component that talks to the PRU, but Peter's suggestion of pushing the PID outside the PRU driver

Re: [Emc-users] Crackling motors using Beaglebone

2014-02-21 Thread Jon Elson
On 02/21/2014 05:41 AM, Mark Tucker wrote: So it seems that the hal configuration has to be altered and the ini,just reading the sample pico configs. All i need now is someone to integrate this into the beaglebone/xylotex db25 configs. How is the deadband figure worked out,Trial and error?

Re: [Emc-users] 5 phase stepper driver

2014-02-24 Thread Jon Elson
On 02/24/2014 03:07 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: Interesting, but can data for it be extracted from the Vextra site? As is, its a pig in a plain brown unlabeled wrapper. Yes, I think the current and voltage ratings are coded fairly simply in the part #. they may also be listed on the case if the

Re: [Emc-users] Fun with trajectory planners and Halscope

2014-02-24 Thread Jon Elson
On 02/24/2014 10:03 PM, sam sokolik wrote: I am surprised people still put up with me... I do have a lot of help from the community. The compact 5 configs using the latch and dual stepgens would not have been possible if not for Jeff and Chris's smarts.. (I am the big picture guy

Re: [Emc-users] beaglebone fpga with linuxcnc

2014-02-25 Thread Jon Elson
On 02/25/2014 11:25 AM, Dave Cole wrote: I guess that... almost makes sense to me.. ;-) Dave On 2/25/2014 11:05 AM, Ron Ginger wrote: The Arduino has shields as the add-om board, so I guess a cape was sort of the other side of the shield. The name comes from the shape of the board,

Re: [Emc-users] Fanuc 10s ini-file

2014-02-26 Thread Jon Elson
On 02/26/2014 10:27 AM, Daniel Duesentrieb wrote: Folks I am happy, then with the help of Jon I got my Fanuc 10s servomotor running with his pico-systems universal pwm board, fanuc encoder und servo amp. Encoder runs and the motor is turning - somewhat... I was playing around with the

Re: [Emc-users] next big thing

2014-02-27 Thread Jon Elson
On 02/27/2014 07:16 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: I should also mention that servos do their magic by exploiting the error budget, limits set before throwing an error in the .INI file. The way we gear steppers, in the distance they move per full step, normally 1/200 of a revolution, will

Re: [Emc-users] next big thing

2014-02-27 Thread Jon Elson
On 02/27/2014 09:45 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: On Thursday 27 February 2014 22:35:15 Jon Elson did opine: On 02/27/2014 07:16 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: I should also mention that servos do their magic by exploiting the error budget, limits set before throwing an error in the .INI file. The way we

Re: [Emc-users] next big thing

2014-02-28 Thread Jon Elson
On 02/28/2014 12:31 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: This latter is a common lament from all of us table toppers I imagine. I am amazed that they put in something that can only turn 2500 revs, then we put motors on it that are fully capable of moving fast enough to stall said motor even when its

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