dear all:

Marc wrote:
>>
Many artists who were once 
net artists have taken the decision to move away from making work that 
is specifically for the Internet, and have adapted their practice to 
reflect in their work an ecologically conscious remit, as individuals or 
groups.>>


I think the discussion started out being about (independent?) organisations, 
their formation,  and the curatorship of new media arts or digital 
media/performance  (as a speciific practice or genre vis a vis more established 
fields), and recently we discussed the sustainability of the digital arts and 
internet based networks or platforms as such as well as the audiences that 
independent organisations or venues or groups can generate or believe to be 
generating.  In your last comment, Marc, you mention a shift amongst net 
artists that you observe..... can you give a couple of examples of what is 
meant by 'ecologically conscious', and where do they shift to (in terms of 
venues or means of production or content?  

What do the organisers and curators amongst this discussion group think about 
interactive/participatory media practices and how they "adopt" new audiences?  

Incidentally, talking about content:
At the Leipzig Games Convention 2008 last week there was a symposium (Games 
Convention Developers Conference) during which it was announced that the German 
cultural funding council now includes "games" as a medium amongst the various 
artistic categories that can apply for public funding, making games comparable 
to "earlier" media such a film. (Die Befürworter einer öffentlichen Förderung 
argumentieren, dass ein Medium unabhängig von den vorherrschenden Inhalten 
gefördert werden müsse = "Those arguing on behalf of public cultural funding 
for games suggest that a medium needs to receive funding support irrespective 
of contents" ). Nor sure how to translate "vorherrschend", it sounds like 
"dominant contents" or hegemonic contents, which is not entirely clear to me 
except if i interpret it to mean that films (or art) represent a dominant 
medium.   Is this a McLuhanesque turn on medium is the content./message? 

I think CRUMB was involved in curating a games exhibition a while back, if i 
remember.  But games surely are hegemonic, no?  


regards
Johannes Birringer
Interaktionslabor
http://interaktionslabor.de

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