I thank Maria for beginning the ending of the month by noting the full circle
of the discussion. To some degree we were suspended between moving examples of
forms (genres?) of expressing/giving words to pain and suffering, and - on the
other hand - impossible examples (the impossibility of
The third week of October's -empyre- discussion will start tomorrow, continuing
with the topic of Pain, Suffering, and Death in the Virtual. The guests will be
Johannes Birringer and Deena Larsen. Their biographical information is below.
The discussion so far has been intriguing and
I am way behind on processing and responding to all the posts. I
appreciate the discussion: it's been wide-ranging and challenging. I
want to return to an earlier thread - feel free to ignore this
back-tracking. While I've been fascinated by everything, I want to pick
out Johannes' discussion of
The second week of October's -empyre- discussion will start tomorrow,
continuing with the topic of Pain, Suffering, and Death in the Virtual. The
guests will be Yael Gilks aka Fau Ferdinand and Jon Marshall. Their
biographical information is below. We expect the discussion will continue
around
Here's the final part of the dialog (in fact, the notes below are largely by
Alan). Again, these emerge from the kernel/core/chora of the discussion of
mourning and grief.
110812_004: Pain as separating inscription/history from the inertness of the
body; what's read as history from the
it for putting up online, possibly on the Eyebeam blog which would
be really good; apparently I'll have one off the main blog, etc. Please let me
know what you think. I'm twisted re: my father, as you can well imagine, not in
all that great shape... (Alan)
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On Wed, 17 Aug 2011, Charles Baldwin
On (severe) Pain (dialog between Sandy Baldwin and Alan Sondheim)
In relation to pain: Inexpressibility occurs because of the difficulty of
expressing interior states that might not have a clearcut symptomology (as
thirst does, for example) - and also because severe pain derails speech and
