Re: [-empyre-] Fwd: Call for e-action | Venice Biennale |Manifesto

2011-06-12 Thread Christiane Robbins
Hi Tim et all, That may well be the case as you have so eloquently articulated. However, these 20th c strategies strike me as speaking more to adaptive reuse than innovation - more as playing for the court than effecting truly a subversive action, as it so portends. At this point in time

Re: [-empyre-] Fwd: Call for e-action | Venice Biennale |Manifesto

2011-06-12 Thread Kristine Stiles
Tim, Sorry for the unfinished sentences below - I was in a hurry to get to the farm to take care of my horse. I meant to write: "I read Johannes' statement as saying that he did not find "loveable...the rhetorical manifesto." To that comment I would add that all rhetoric is not the same,

Re: [-empyre-] Fwd: Call for e-action | Venice Biennale |Manifesto

2011-06-12 Thread Kristine Stiles
Tim, As someone who has written on behalf of the disenfrancised and traumatized for my lifetime, I am in sympathy with any constructive critique of the current situation, but not one that reduces its attack to those staying in nice hotels and drinking in cafes. As for defending the statel

Re: [-empyre-] Fwd: Call for e-action | Venice Biennale |Manifesto

2011-06-11 Thread Timothy Murray
Kristine, I understand your impatience but I'm wondering whether me might be able to appreciate this intervention to be in line and solidarity with the kind of thinking about immigration, mobility, and extrastatecraft posited, say, by Keller Easterling in her work on infrastructure or by

Re: [-empyre-] Fwd: Call for e-action | Venice Biennale |Manifesto

2011-06-11 Thread Kristine Stiles
I concur with Johannes. I find nothing interesting in the manifesto's hubris, self-importance, and sophomoric lack of empathy and curiosity (to say nothing of understanding) of those it critiques. Finally, the manifesto exemplifies the spectacle it condemns. Kristine On Jun 10, 2011, at 9:

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2011-06-10 Thread Johannes Birringer
Not sure what there is, so lovable, about the rhetorical manifesto (Stateless1 Pavillion Biennale.jpg) of futile gestures, and the proposal to squat between the fascist monuments (german and italian pavilions) in the Giardini, if one were to travel to Italy, that would require a passport, no?

Re: [-empyre-] Fwd: Call for e-action | Venice Biennale |Manifesto

2011-06-10 Thread Christiane_Paul
, 2011 6:50 AM To: rrdoming...@ucsd.edu; soft_skinned_space Subject: Re: [-empyre-] Fwd: Call for e-action | Venice Biennale |Manifesto I absolutely love this! xl On Jun 8, 2011, at 8:37 AM, Ricardo Dominguez wrote: Hola Tim and all, I will let the group that developed this gesture speak for

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2011-06-10 Thread Lynn Hershman
I absolutely love this! xl On Jun 8, 2011, at 8:37 AM, Ricardo Dominguez wrote: Hola Tim and all, I will let the group that developed this gesture speak for itself (also a short manifesto as .jpg attached): On 5/27/11 3:35 AM, statelessimmigrantspavil...@riseup.net wrote: We, the Anonymou

Re: [-empyre-] Fwd: Call for e-action | Venice Biennale |Manifesto

2011-06-09 Thread Maria Fernandez
Hello all, In addition to inviting us to action, Ricardo’s message incites us to imagine other kinds of international contemporary art exhibitions. Has any of the curators on the list experimented with other models? If exhibitions were to be conducted in specific geographic locales, how might