Re: [-empyre-] Urban resilience

2012-03-05 Thread Ethel Baraona Pohl
I just found this article: http://criticalenvironmentalism.org/2012/01/19/occupy/ And I really liked the idea they express when pointing *This thing, this occupation is an idea as much as it is an act. It is an idea that no one place or group can own. It is an inhabit-able idea, an enact-able

Re: [-empyre-] Urban resilience

2012-03-05 Thread Ana Valdés
That's the spirit, Ethel! To pose questions is often more creative than tell answers :) He or she who answers have a tendence to interpret facts and believe there are answers. I think creative questions are far more complex than give answers, I think this is -empyre's and other forum's role in the

Re: [-empyre-] Urban resilience

2012-03-05 Thread Antonas Office
We delve into questions that have no answers anyway. But there is a perspective that can make sense. I tried to work a bit on urban issues in Athens which is an emblematic city for the future. Its common ground is somehow dissolved already in an interesting way. In order to act in an urban

Re: [-empyre-] Urban resilience

2012-03-05 Thread Ana Valdés
Thank you Antonas and all for so interesting views! I want go back to the concept of commons, which is one of the most important concepts in urbanism and in politic. The idea of a common wealth based on the work of everyone is an old concept negotiated after the transition between Feodalism and

Re: [-empyre-] Urban resilience

2012-03-05 Thread Leandro Delgado
Before going back to commons, I'd like to add that resistance movements could (or should) be analyzed in terms of city sustainability. I found the p2p urbanism really interesting. As far as I know, there are few resistance movements related to some kind of urbanistic thought in South America

Re: [-empyre-] Urban resilience

2012-03-05 Thread Ana Valdés
Thank you Leandro for taking us back to reality here, in this urbanized continent :) Interesting about the Old Town in Montevideo taken by criminal maffia or drugsellers. Carlos Fuentes, the great Mexican writer, wrote a book for many years ago about a similar development in Mexico DF, where

Re: [-empyre-] Urban resilience

2012-03-04 Thread Kamen Nedev
Hola, Ethel, I'd turn your question upside-down: Is resilience the new resistance? By now, you must have gathered I have some serious reservation about the proliferation of the term resilience. But I think there is a good reason for this phenomenon. We're all struggling to grasp the real

Re: [-empyre-] Urban resilience

2012-03-04 Thread Ethel Baraona Pohl
I'm really glad to fin some good friends on this discussion! @Aristide Antonas: I find quite interesting the difference you remark between resilience and resistance and the opposition between positive and negative connotations. But is not adaptability a kind of passive resistance? In case we

Re: [-empyre-] Urban resilience

2012-03-04 Thread lgm
How about discussing Urban resistance? Quoting Ethel Baraona Pohl ethel.bara...@gmail.com: I'm really glad to fin some good friends on this discussion! @Aristide Antonas: I find quite interesting the difference you remark between resilience and resistance and the opposition between

Re: [-empyre-] Urban resilience

2012-03-04 Thread Ana Valdés
I see the point following Ethel's proposal and discussing the differences between resilience and resistance. I remember attending a meeting in Prag, where we met the president Vaclav Haverl (my good friend Alicia Migdal was also there, I hope she remembers the discussion too). Havel stressed the

Re: [-empyre-] Urban resilience

2012-03-04 Thread Kamen Nedev
On Sun, Mar 4, 2012 at 1:11 PM, Ethel Baraona Pohl ethel.bara...@gmail.com wrote: @Kamen I'm aware about your reservation of the proliferation of the term resilience. Ooooh... What make you think that? XD Still, trends (and trending topics) aside, I think notions such as resilience need to be

Re: [-empyre-] Urban resilience

2012-03-04 Thread Ana Valdés
Let me tell about Nablus, one of the oldest cities in the world, with one of the oldest souks in the world, protected by the Unesco as one of the world's heritage. The Israel army had the city besieged almost one year with curfews every day and often the whole day. When the curfew was lifted,

Re: [-empyre-] Urban resilience

2012-03-04 Thread Dante-Gabryell Monson
I 'like' the subject of this thread. Ethel , and all, Perhaps some of you may be acquainted with p2p urbanism ? ( and mailing list ) // http://p2pfoundation.net/P2P_Urbanism http://p2pfoundation.net/P2P_Urbanism_Projects *P2P urbanism is open source urbanism, by the people, for the people.

Re: [-empyre-] Urban resilience

2012-03-04 Thread michael gurstein
Subject: Re: [-empyre-] Urban resilience I'm really glad to fin some good friends on this discussion! @Aristide Antonas: I find quite interesting the difference you remark between resilience and resistance and the opposition between positive and negative connotations. But is not adaptability

Re: [-empyre-] Urban resilience

2012-03-04 Thread Kamen Nedev
I have to agree with Ana here. Resistance and resilience are different things, and cannot be collapsed onto one another or interchanged. Still, we need to assess in what way they are different if we want this to be a productive discussion. On the one hand, Ana's examples of non-conformist

Re: [-empyre-] Urban resilience

2012-03-04 Thread Kamen Nedev
I find the example of Nablus very interesting, Ana. It is also representative of tactics to make do that citizens come up with when faced with severe repression, or, in this case, a full-blown military siege. But I am also wondering about the cultural specificity of how citizens use - and

Re: [-empyre-] Urban resilience

2012-03-04 Thread Antonas Office
Yes empyre is a nice living room, Ethel, we may continue here an older discussion. @Ethel Baraona Pohl: To me there is a strategic problem in the distinction between resistance and resilience that drives us back to the difference between the society of a recent past and the social landscape

Re: [-empyre-] Urban resilience

2012-03-04 Thread simon
Dear empyreans, might this idea of resilience have something to do with or have its psychic corollary in the limited durational frames of consciousness - multiple personas / Pessoan heteronyms / little objects of self-love http://squarewhiteworld.com/2012/03/04/little-objects-of-self-love/ -

Re: [-empyre-] Urban resilience

2012-03-04 Thread Kamen Nedev
Hi, Antonas, On Sun, Mar 4, 2012 at 8:42 PM, Antonas Office antonasoff...@gmail.com wrote: The appearance of an already deconstructed field, a non hegemonic, not hierarchically structured multiplicity of fragments, described by Negri, can propose different strategies of resistance. I believe

[-empyre-] Urban resilience

2012-03-03 Thread Ethel Baraona Pohl
Hello everybody at empyre, I'm Ethel Baraona Pohl, architect, researcher and publisher living in Spain, where the current sociopolitical and economic situation is driving architects to focus again in concepts like resilience, as Ana pointed two days ago when she introduced the topic of March. I

Re: [-empyre-] Urban resilience

2012-03-03 Thread Antonas Office
Hi Ethel, Nice to meet again here. Resistance is a concept that depends to a power to which it is opposed. It is presented as a negative power defined by this reference. Resilience is proposed as a positive constructive power. It invents its background. Aristide Antonas Sent from antonas

Re: [-empyre-] Urban resilience

2012-03-03 Thread Ana Valdés
Hi Ethel and I am so happy you introduced yourself in such a flamboyant way :) I am not familiar with the Occupy Movement (the two cities I live between, Stockholm and Montevideo, are very lawful cities :) nobody occupies :) But I know a bit of the Arab Spring, I have been in the Middle East ten