Re: [-empyre-] more and the question about performance

2014-11-16 Thread William Bain
--empyre- soft-skinned space--Something I wanted to contribute on Alan'spost, regarding performing. Is it worth it, is itegoistic? Quoting in part: we find ourselves on the verge of a planet so violated that the environment ... might well collapse ... within the

Re: [-empyre-] more and the question about performance

2014-11-16 Thread Alan Sondheim
--empyre- soft-skinned space-- Amery and others talk about the dissolution of the self in torture; the 'ego' to me is actually a knot that's fairly easily dissolved in dire circumstances. The selves are varied, at times they've been related to different

Re: [-empyre-] more and the question about performance

2014-11-16 Thread Murat Nemet-Nejat
--empyre- soft-skinned space--SIS uses beheadings, other violent acts to crush civilians, UN report says Newsday - .5 hours ago. UNITED NATIONS -- Beheadings, stonings and mutilation are common weapons of terror employed by the Islamic State in its campaign to subdue

Re: [-empyre-] more and the question about performance

2014-11-15 Thread Erik Ehn
--empyre- soft-skinned space--a thing, to be art, must represent a thing by other means. so, the life in a flower (a feature of time) is re-presented in arrangement (a feature of space). [barba, dictionary of theatre anthropology] to represent killing by killing is

Re: [-empyre-] more and the question about performance

2014-11-15 Thread Maria Damon
--empyre- soft-skinned space-- and of course there's a news blackout, or so it would appear, on the Ferguson verdict. and yes, your Brooklyn performance was sublime. On 11/15/14 6:07 AM, Alan Sondheim wrote: --empyre- soft-skinned

Re: [-empyre-] more and the question about performance

2014-11-15 Thread PierMartonGmail
--empyre- soft-skinned space-- Alan’s long lists of “bad news” that keep him up, and should keep us all up, but then we need to sleep to function. The cut and paste function bring it all together... but there is nothing new there though. Violence, cruelty are forms

Re: [-empyre-] more and the question about performance

2014-11-15 Thread Alan Sondheim
--empyre- soft-skinned space-- Hi Erik, I do want to reply, briefly, to you here. You state (the quote didn't work): a thing, to be art, must represent a thing by other means. so, the life in a flower (a feature of time) is re-presented in arrangement (a feature of

Re: [-empyre-] more and the question about performance

2014-11-15 Thread Erik Ehn
--empyre- soft-skinned space--represented by other means in the sense that the floor didn't need to be swept or if it did that wasn't the point - what was being represented was the labor, above the activity, or specifically spectatorship... so the work of sweeping

Re: [-empyre-] more and the question about performance

2014-11-15 Thread Erik Ehn
--empyre- soft-skinned space--and - many overlaps, but also looking at the difference between destruction and decreation. On Saturday, November 15, 2014 12:33 PM, Erik Ehn shadowtac...@sbcglobal.net wrote: represented by other means in the sense that the floor

Re: [-empyre-] more and the question about performance

2014-11-15 Thread Alan Sondheim
--empyre- soft-skinned space-- I think it was the work; there was a lot of art based on everyday activites. There's always what Smylie called the work of the audience, but there is also audience, for beheading, unfortunately. - - Alan On Sat, 15 Nov 2014, Erik