Re: [-empyre-] the pitfalls of trendy theory and popular art projects

2012-02-12 Thread Gabriel Menotti
> I wonder why you doubt the commensurabilities? > probably you are interested in how the research you > ask about was "written", or written down (is it up?) > as they say, and this is course perhaps a different > question. [Johannes Birringer] I’m not sure if I *doubt* them. I’m just very curious

Re: [-empyre-] the pitfalls of trendy theory and popular art projects

2012-02-11 Thread Baruch Gottlieb
Gabriel, so many references in your response I could not possibly engage them all... On Feb 10, 2012, at 3:50 PM, Gabriel Menotti wrote: >> To call anarchaeology a 'boat' would imply that he was expecting it to take >> him somewhere, and it would seem it has. [Baruch Gottlieb] > > Hahah, I w

Re: [-empyre-] the pitfalls of trendy theory and popular art projects

2012-02-10 Thread Johannes Birringer
dear all your reply is full if interesting and thought suggestions, Menotti, and I am enjoying the discussion - having in fact benefitted quite substantially from Zielinski's research when our ensemble adopted for rehearsal (on a recent choreographic work) some images and motifs ("ogypts")

Re: [-empyre-] the pitfalls of trendy theory and popular art projects

2012-02-10 Thread Gabriel Menotti
>  To call anarchaeology a 'boat' would imply that he was expecting it to take > him somewhere, and it would seem it has. [Baruch Gottlieb] Hahah, I was using the metaphor quite loosely, but your remark evokes the story (told by Zielinski in DTotM) of how a detour/delay in a ship voyage led Athana

Re: [-empyre-] the pitfalls of trendy theory and popular art projects

2012-02-09 Thread Johannes Birringer
dear all sorry I am behind a day or two, need to thank Menotti for replying to my post and giving us more background on the past seminars on "incompatible research practices", and then you mention, to my surprise – but then again, i was not in Berlin – that the theme of incompatibility (or "in

Re: [-empyre-] the pitfalls of trendy theory and popular art projects

2012-02-09 Thread davin heckman
I think it is a good point to think about trendy theory and the problems with hype. I am almost always seduced by hype. It tricks me into seeing something concrete to wrap my head around, while making me realize I am a fool for mistaking currency with solidity. But the logic of hype or its resis

Re: [-empyre-] the pitfalls of trendy theory and popular art projects

2012-02-08 Thread Baruch Gottlieb
On Feb 8, 2012, at 11:01 AM, Gabriel Menotti wrote: >> >> Media Archaeology is >> thus really a fashion, something inordinately hyped to sell more books, >> music, clothes, etc... […] Meanwhile, >> Zielinski is always (if he still uses the label) explicitly not a media >> archaeologist but a Me

[-empyre-] the pitfalls of trendy theory and popular art projects

2012-02-08 Thread Gabriel Menotti
Oi! > Media Archaeology is > thus really a fashion, something inordinately hyped to sell more books, > music, clothes, etc... […] Meanwhile, > Zielinski is always (if he still uses the label)  explicitly not a media > archaeologist but a Media (an)archaeologist, a practice which has been > increas