Re: [-empyre-] Hurricane Sandy

2012-10-31 Thread michael gurstein
Glad to hear it Alan... Be well (from the charms and comparative safety of Bangkok... M -Original Message- From: empyre-boun...@lists.cofa.unsw.edu.au [mailto:empyre-boun...@lists.cofa.unsw.edu.au] On Behalf Of Alan Sondheim Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2012 6:16 AM To:

Re: [-empyre-] Hurricane Sandy

2012-10-31 Thread Martin Glaz Serup
Re. Chicago; wow, actually I just checked with my airline - all traffic from Copenhagen to Chicago is normal; I hope that goes for tomorrow aswell, since I'm going that way... And actually, Patrick, I'm talking on Columbia College on Nov 2nd (classvisits with Jennifer Karmin). All best, Martin -

Re: [-empyre-] Hurricane Sandy

2012-10-31 Thread G.H. Hovagimyan
The flooding and power outages are a bummer. I live in zone B which is the secondary evacuation zone. Zone A is one block from me. The subways are flooded and they are beginning to pump them out. Last year we had a hurricane hit New York at the same time. It's odd because the year before that

Re: [-empyre-] Hurricane Sandy

2012-10-31 Thread Maria Damon
Yes, I was going to ask, Where to people evacuate *to*? I think people stay in their homes not because of bravado but because a) they feel overwhelmed by having to make plans, b) they feel safe in their homes because they are identified with them and have filled them with their identities and

Re: [-empyre-] Before the Law / control and cutting, stripped naked

2012-10-31 Thread Johannes Birringer
dear all Is memory also such a thing? Can it outlive the person to whom it is said to belong? Simon wrote this question, and i was going to say, yes, this is something i always assumed, and Jonathan refered to this also in regard to how trauma may be passed on from generation to generation.

Re: [-empyre-] Before the Law / control and cutting, stripped naked

2012-10-31 Thread Maria Damon
this is a lovely full-circle conclusion for the month, though we've got some hours to go. Sandy Storm (hi Sandy Baldwin) gives us a chance to consider the past month with a certain vividness. On 10/31/12 11:07 AM, Johannes Birringer wrote: dear all Is memory also such a thing? Can it outlive

Re: [-empyre-] Before the Law / control and cutting, stripped naked

2012-10-31 Thread Alan Sondheim
On Wed, 31 Oct 2012, Johannes Birringer wrote: is this not amazing. having lived through numerous hurricanes in Texas and the Gulf bay area, I can sympathize with your excitement, the thrill, the rush, the relief? i also, when in Houston during these events, felt the impending disaster

Re: [-empyre-] Hurricane Sandy

2012-10-31 Thread Alan Sondheim
Hi - I think it's more that they feel they can _do something_ to protect their houses; leaving, makes the houses and them vulnerable. I've thought a lot about this because I'd be one loathe to evacuate; instead I'd be doing what we did here - covering things, moving things up higher, and so

Re: [-empyre-] Hurricane Sandy

2012-10-31 Thread Maria Damon
Oh, say hi to Jen Karmin. What are you talking about? On 10/31/12 6:53 AM, Martin Glaz Serup wrote: Re. Chicago; wow, actually I just checked with my airline - all traffic from Copenhagen to Chicago is normal; I hope that goes for tomorrow aswell, since I'm going that way... And actually,

Re: [-empyre-] Hurricane Sandy

2012-10-31 Thread Susan E Ryan
Yes: overwhelmed, no transportation, no where to go. That's what happened in the 9th Ward, and that's why people couldn't get out of the Superdome. Plus, after the curfew, now one was allowed to move around. It's all so familiar. Too familiar. It's just that it hit New York this time, not

Re: [-empyre-] Before the Law / Sensory Worlds

2012-10-31 Thread Michele Danjoux
Whilst I have been a silent follower of the list postings this month (most months in fact), I have been fascinated by the many things that have been revealed and also very possibly not revealed. Anyway, this last posting from Johannes took me immediately to the Orson Welles film 'Citizen Kane'

Re: [-empyre-] Hurricane Sandy

2012-10-31 Thread Maria Damon
yes, people feel more powerful in their own space, which is also something they want to protect. as you can imagine, the concatenation of homestead words is moving, though most of the words are about *immobility,* having a spot you can call your own, etc. (chimney corner has a special charm in

Re: [-empyre-] Hurricane Sandy

2012-10-31 Thread Cynthia Beth Rubin
One big difference between New York and New Orleans is that as soon as the buses started rolling yesterday the city made them fare-free until next week. They want to make it easy for people to move if they need to. In New Orleans, as I remember, people caught by the storm could not move around

Re: [-empyre-] Hurricane Sandy

2012-10-31 Thread Renate Ferro
Hi all.Alan we are going to keep this month's conversation open as we move into November's discussion that Tim and I will be hosting on RISK. More later. Renate Renate Ferro and Tim Murray Empyre moderators On Oct 31, 2012 5:02 PM, Cynthia Beth Rubin c...@cbrubin.net wrote: One big

[-empyre-] the end of the month

2012-10-31 Thread Charles Baldwin
I thank Maria for beginning the ending of the month by noting the full circle of the discussion. To some degree we were suspended between moving examples of forms (genres?) of expressing/giving words to pain and suffering, and - on the other hand - impossible examples (the impossibility of

Re: [-empyre-] the end of the month

2012-10-31 Thread Alan Sondheim
I want to thank everyone as well, particularly Sandy and that other Sandy that provided an open closure at this point. Taking up one of the points he makes below, If we circled to some degree, it would be because of the irreducibly human and worldly problems at the center of the topic of Pain,

Re: [-empyre-] the end of the month

2012-10-31 Thread Maria Damon
Yes, thanks to all, esp. Sandy and Alan–and the other participants. I wish I had written more, but I seem to be in a laconic mode these days, and also have been bouncing around from place to place, not displaced, but traveling for work reasons. Sending love and thoughts to the isle of my birth