Re: [-empyre-] re/claiming and unsettling / continuing artistic practices

2012-03-14 Thread Johannes Birringer
dear Eduardo

thanks for sending me back to your 
After Iran's Twitter Revolution: Egypt
posted February 15, // Social media's role in Middle East uprisings brings 
online communities to life
(Eduardo Navas)

and after reading it my question is still same, i asked about what you meant by 
Twitter Revolution in Iran,
as I cannot remember a revolution having taken place there.  Probably I was 
worried, as I was when i asked
Aristide to explain his dramatic description of Athens as a war zone (making me 
think back of the
years when Sarajevo was the focus of such description), what you meant, and 
whether to speak of revolution, 
either in case of Iran or of countries like Egypt or Tunisia, is exaggeration. 
In all their complexities,  one can see
them as movements for  reforming the system not changing it? And you seem 
skeptical of
Twitter as a medium itself?  In Iran the system of power has not changed. We 
shall have
to see what will have changed in Egypt and Libya.

respectfully

Johannes Birringer



 Eduardo Navas schreibt

Subject: Re: [-empyre-] re/claiming and unsettling / continuing artistic 
practices

If you click on the link I provided you will quickly understand my position
which I already alluded to in my brief post. To this effect, Ana actually
responded to I wrote and I don't think additional commentary on my part can
be useful at this stage of the discussion. I will certainly contribute
throughout the month.  In the mean time, the text-link I provided is very
specific about my critical position for those actually interested.  The
questions you ask me would not come up if you had visited it before your
response.
Cheers,
Eduardo
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Re: [-empyre-] re/claiming and unsettling / continuing artistic practices

2012-03-14 Thread Irina Contreras
Hi,

I am not sure if this is the best way to do this but

Can someone update my email address to colaconcon...@gmail.com

Thanks so much!

Irina




 From: Eduardo Navas edua...@navasse.net
To: soft_skinned_space empyre@lists.cofa.unsw.edu.au 
Sent: Thursday, March 8, 2012 9:13 PM
Subject: Re: [-empyre-] re/claiming and unsettling / continuing artistic 
practices
 

Re: [-empyre-] re/claiming and unsettling / continuing artistic practices 
First I want to thank Ana for inviting me to participate in this month’s 
discussion. I have been part of this list for many years, but I don’t write 
every month.  I do read most material that comes to my box, as I’m always 
interested in the discussions.  So it is good to have a commitment to write 
more consistently from time to time.  Thanks again.

I have read the postings so far, and I’m a bit overwhelmed by the diversity and 
complexity of the material covered.  Discussing issues from Fukushima to the 
middle east, the Americas and other parts of the world so far mentioned can be 
a bit dizzying; but at the same time, it also feels quite natural.  This could 
be taken as one of the symptoms of a globalized world.

Regarding the concept of resilience and resistance, I wanted to share a few 
points of my own.  I usually like to begin evaluating a subject based on its 
denotative definition and to then move on to its connotations, which is where 
most people spend their time debating the meaning of things in terms of 
cultural understanding.

Resilience basically means that the material/subject/object is able to bounce 
back or recover fast/well.  This term may be linked  to resistance, which as we 
know means that a material or object may be tough to destroy.  The terms are 
easily interchangeable as synonyms under the right circumstances, and in terms 
of cultural critical practices, I believe that they are complementary.  This is 
more or less what I also sense in the post so far contributed.  

One thing that struck me, though, as I read the posts is that perhaps we should 
consider how the meaning of the terms in discussion may be different in our 
times from others.  Some posts have recalled the movement of 68 and its 
relation to the occupy movement. Other posts have discussed and provided links 
to different manifestations of urban resilience.  But one of the challenges of 
a critical position, in my view, is to be able to adjust itself to the changes 
of the system it aims to critique.  In particular, I find the role of 
technology fascinating in this respect.  I think of the Arab Spring and how it 
arguably would have been very difficult for it to come about as quickly as it 
did if it were not for the appropriation of social media.  I know Ana mentioned 
that what happened in Tahrir Square would have happened, but I really wonder if 
this is really true.  Didn’t technology have such a role that without it, it 
would have been quite difficult
 to pull off such a decentralized, yet well organized event?  You can read my 
reflections on this if you are interested in this text published on the 
Levantine Review:
http://www.levantinecenter.org/levantine-review/after-irans-twitter-revolution-egypt

It would be great to hear your views on how resistance and resilience may often 
be redefined for each generation.  I think people (we) do have the tendency to 
reference these terms as though they are stable forms, but are they?

Best,

Eduardo

 

On 3/8/12 7:45 PM, Ana Valdés agora...@gmail.com wrote:


Dear all, I am very happy about the broad range of our discussion! Next week we 
are going to have two writers and I am delighted to see some of them (Leandro, 
Alicia) already participating...
The examples raised by Alicia, the publisher house Eloisa Cartonera and their 
Uruguayan syster, La propia cartonera, are indeed examples of arte povera and 
they were invited to the Sao Paulo Biennal some years ago, to present their 
work in a artistist context. I attended the Biennal and talked to them and 
they impressed me with their very political way of concieve the publishing 
business, a business overtaken by bif multinationals and the old media.
But I am sure Alicia and Sabela are going to present more examples of 
resiliance and resistance generated here at Rio de la Plata.
Ana

On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 10:34 PM, Johannes Birringer 
johannes.birrin...@brunel.ac.uk wrote:

dear all


Kamen's response   – regarding the spirit of recession -  is so evocative 
and striking that I want to just let it stay here,
and take more time reflect further, on what you yourself wonder The 
question is how to continue being a moving target,
shifting gears, adopting new tactics, new approaches, new practices  and 
what you pose to interrogate, namely whether
there is a critical aesthetic practice which could be truly adequate to 
these phenomena and to the historical moment we're
experiencing,  rather than a  contemporary art sphere

Re: [-empyre-] re/claiming and unsettling / continuing artistic practices

2012-03-09 Thread Ana Valdés
Thank you David for sharing some interesting thoughts. I think networking
in itself is a value, a virtue, similar to fortitude, justice, prudence and
temperance, the traditional Christian values.
When Jose Bové started his fight against MacDonalds and other fastfood
chains he was using his knowledge and his contactnet to create a new
network.
The same thing does the farmes sueing Monsanto.
All the best
Ana

On Fri, Mar 9, 2012 at 10:08 AM, davin heckman davinheck...@gmail.comwrote:

 Ana, I wonder if the reason for this lack of sustained critical mass
 has to do with some of our deeper structures of belief and motivation.

 I think the 20th century is committed to technique, and insofar as we
 have been committed to technique, we have been excellent at sustaining
 the centrality of our belief in technique and our committment to its
 practice.

 I was just re-reading Animal Farm and sobbing, along with my children,
 over its failure.  We were wondering why such a sound idea was
 incapable of producing lasting results.  And, the issue is not the
 problem with animalism in Animal Farm  the problem is the belief
 that animalism in itself, as a formal system, would be enough to
 sustain its permanent state.  But again and again in the story, the
 problem is not animalism, it is a problem with a belief in animalism
 as an external technique, rather than an intimately understood,
 subjectively integral, culturally networked way of being.

 We wonder why social movements often flounder, it has to do with a
 lack of belief in anything BUT the technical fix.  Find the error,
 adopt the formula, implement the system  and then we can live in
 utopia without having to constantly concern ourselves with creating
 it.  If we can just get rid of the humans, the animals believe, then
 the future of animalism is secure.  But, really, maybe to sustain a
 movement, you have to worry yourself constantly with its perpetual
 renewal.  Unfortunately, we are conditioned to believe that the
 problems of life are solved through discrete purchases  even
 though we have overwhelming evidence that this is not so  many
 behave as though the lack of love in their life can be solved by
 properly groomed nostrils or scientifically scented skin or the right
 watch.  They might not believe the specific propaganda claims, but at
 a very deep level, we are always looking for fixes, but we doubt our
 own capacity to become the fix.  I mean, global hunger  Monsanto
 says its about their seeds  but really, the world has food, give
 hungry people food.  We don't need a scientist or a machine to do
 that.  Depression  Pfizer pushes pills...  but really, work less,
 give your time and effort to people for nothing.

 The Church was good at building its network because the network wasn't
 an end in itself.  Sure, for some people it is, and these poor people
 graft themselves to power and try to take something from it without
 giving themselves to the spirit of the collective project.  But the
 network itself grew and sustained itself because people believe in
 something else, of which the network is supposed, only, to be a trace,
 shadow, artifact.  Or, to use a more contemporary example--the city--a
 city does not exist because it is a city, it exists because it offers
 a means for people to pursue individual existence collectively.  The
 streets, sewers, buildings, law, etc. exist to support that function,
 and increase the likelihood that people will join the city to pursue
 life.  And, a really good city, eventually becomes a metaphor for the
 life of its people, and then for people more generally.  But this is
 only a power trick of signification, a way of talking about life
 through material metaphors.  That Chan reference on this thread,
 really illustrates this idea quite nicely.

 Peace!

 Davin



 On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 4:03 PM, Ana Valdés agora...@gmail.com wrote:
  Thanks Johannes for a very inclusive post where you pinpointed some of
 the
  most relevant things we posted these days.
  I am as you concerned with the concept of networking. I think for the
 big
  capital has never haft problems with networking issues. Rome had soldiers
  and administrators taking to Rome wheat from Egypt, parrots from Africa,
  grain from everywhere, wine from Spain, etc, etc. The Catholic Church
 based
  it's power on networking. Yes, they were vertical and high centralized
  networkings but their goal was to keep the empire or their organization
  floating.
  Why should be so difficult for us, grassroots movements, students,
  peasants, social leaders, artists, intellectuals, commited people, to act
  the same way?
  Ana
 
 
 
 
  On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 3:34 PM, Johannes Birringer
  johannes.birrin...@brunel.ac.uk wrote:
 
 
 
  dear all
 
  thanks for all the postings herel
  I was intrigued to read the conceptual (theoretical) notions offered,
  perhaps as a form of political thought or analysis, alongside the
 reports
  from 

Re: [-empyre-] re/claiming and unsettling / continuing artistic practices

2012-03-09 Thread Kristine Stiles
Thank you Aristide. You are right that the violent changes to Athens, which 
have altered it from a European city to a war field... indicative of the 
future, is absolutely emblematic of the future and the ownership of states by 
the banks. This article from February 12th, signed by Alain Badiou, 
Jean-Christophe Bailly, Étienne Balibar, Claire Denis, Jean-Luc Nancy, Jacques 
Ranciere, Avital Ronell, may be old news to everyone, but it's worth 
considering if you have not read it: Save the Greeks from their Saviours! says 
Alain Badiou http://www.europeagainstausterity.org/?p=650

Thanks to everyone for the very stimulating discussion of resistance and 
resilience, which I have been following closely.

Kristine Stiles
Duke University


On Mar 9, 2012, at 2:33 AM, Antonas Office wrote:

 Thank you Johannes Birringer for your observations. I would like to comment 
 the Zizek's reference to Athens and Sparta. I was not there and I cannot see 
 from your reference which was his point. I made my reference to Athens 
 because I consider it the contemporary city that comes first in a series of 
 cities that cannot anymore be included in a homogeneous European community. 
 The city changed violently during the last years. The radical change is 
 obvious by the growth of the homeless population occupying sidewalks and 
 corners and with the garbage recycling works that keeps busy many athenian 
 immigrants in the centre. Athens is maybe the first city in Europe that 
 receives the spirit of a global unified world; it will show the reaction of 
 europe over it. It maybe shows an image of the future because now in athens 
 we can see a picture of what is happening next to us and the borders hide it. 
 The violent changes in the city divided a homogeneous territory in gated 
 communities and ghe
 ttoes. The city on some parts of it, is not recognizable, in some parts it is 
 similar to a war field. What makes it also indicative for the future is the 
 way Europe understands its recovery. The answer to this violent change seems 
 to be a forced order and a constitution of a different status quo. A non 
 voted government and the priority of the banks over the state is also a 
 future feature which we observe already in Greece, in Italy, in Spain.
 
 Athens was a normal European city and it is not any more. This specific 
 change in its tissue I call emblematic. It seems that it will be repeated and 
 the rest of Europe should know. It shows an ending to the architecture of the 
 city that we knew. Something different and important takes place in Athens. 
 New state strategies for a next western world are tested. This is why the 
 difference between resistance and resilience is crucial here.
 
 Aristide Antonas
 Athens
 
 Sent from antonas iPhone
 
 On Mar 8, 2012, at 23:34, Johannes Birringer 
 johannes.birrin...@brunel.ac.uk wrote:
 
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Re: [-empyre-] re/claiming and unsettling / continuing artistic practices

2012-03-09 Thread davin heckman
Ana,

I think you are right, insofar as it is a web of intersubjective
relations, a network does imply some pretty hearty obligations and
rights.

On the other hand, network can also imply a relationship among objects
or objectives, as a command and control tool, more or less.

I think sometimes, the lines between the two models of communication,
one humanistic and the other informatic, tend to blend together.

Davin



On Fri, Mar 9, 2012 at 4:21 AM, Ana Valdés agora...@gmail.com wrote:
 Thank you David for sharing some interesting thoughts. I think networking in
 itself is a value, a virtue, similar to fortitude, justice, prudence and
 temperance, the traditional Christian values.
 When Jose Bové started his fight against MacDonalds and other fastfood
 chains he was using his knowledge and his contactnet to create a new
 network.
 The same thing does the farmes sueing Monsanto.
 All the best
 Ana

 On Fri, Mar 9, 2012 at 10:08 AM, davin heckman davinheck...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Ana, I wonder if the reason for this lack of sustained critical mass
 has to do with some of our deeper structures of belief and motivation.

 I think the 20th century is committed to technique, and insofar as we
 have been committed to technique, we have been excellent at sustaining
 the centrality of our belief in technique and our committment to its
 practice.

 I was just re-reading Animal Farm and sobbing, along with my children,
 over its failure.  We were wondering why such a sound idea was
 incapable of producing lasting results.  And, the issue is not the
 problem with animalism in Animal Farm  the problem is the belief
 that animalism in itself, as a formal system, would be enough to
 sustain its permanent state.  But again and again in the story, the
 problem is not animalism, it is a problem with a belief in animalism
 as an external technique, rather than an intimately understood,
 subjectively integral, culturally networked way of being.

 We wonder why social movements often flounder, it has to do with a
 lack of belief in anything BUT the technical fix.  Find the error,
 adopt the formula, implement the system  and then we can live in
 utopia without having to constantly concern ourselves with creating
 it.  If we can just get rid of the humans, the animals believe, then
 the future of animalism is secure.  But, really, maybe to sustain a
 movement, you have to worry yourself constantly with its perpetual
 renewal.  Unfortunately, we are conditioned to believe that the
 problems of life are solved through discrete purchases  even
 though we have overwhelming evidence that this is not so  many
 behave as though the lack of love in their life can be solved by
 properly groomed nostrils or scientifically scented skin or the right
 watch.  They might not believe the specific propaganda claims, but at
 a very deep level, we are always looking for fixes, but we doubt our
 own capacity to become the fix.  I mean, global hunger  Monsanto
 says its about their seeds  but really, the world has food, give
 hungry people food.  We don't need a scientist or a machine to do
 that.  Depression  Pfizer pushes pills...  but really, work less,
 give your time and effort to people for nothing.

 The Church was good at building its network because the network wasn't
 an end in itself.  Sure, for some people it is, and these poor people
 graft themselves to power and try to take something from it without
 giving themselves to the spirit of the collective project.  But the
 network itself grew and sustained itself because people believe in
 something else, of which the network is supposed, only, to be a trace,
 shadow, artifact.  Or, to use a more contemporary example--the city--a
 city does not exist because it is a city, it exists because it offers
 a means for people to pursue individual existence collectively.  The
 streets, sewers, buildings, law, etc. exist to support that function,
 and increase the likelihood that people will join the city to pursue
 life.  And, a really good city, eventually becomes a metaphor for the
 life of its people, and then for people more generally.  But this is
 only a power trick of signification, a way of talking about life
 through material metaphors.  That Chan reference on this thread,
 really illustrates this idea quite nicely.

 Peace!

 Davin



 On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 4:03 PM, Ana Valdés agora...@gmail.com wrote:
  Thanks Johannes for a very inclusive post where you pinpointed some of
  the
  most relevant things we posted these days.
  I am as you concerned with the concept of networking. I think for the
  big
  capital has never haft problems with networking issues. Rome had
  soldiers
  and administrators taking to Rome wheat from Egypt, parrots from Africa,
  grain from everywhere, wine from Spain, etc, etc. The Catholic Church
  based
  it's power on networking. Yes, they were vertical and high centralized
  networkings but their goal was to keep the empire or 

Re: [-empyre-] re/claiming and unsettling / continuing artistic practices

2012-03-09 Thread Johannes Birringer


dear Ana, i can empathize with you enjoying the arrival of Benjamin's 
Passagenwerk, 
hmm, but i hope you share his saddened sense of irony (we always have 
nostalgia of what is left behind)
it's of course best not to indulge in sentimental nostalgia, wouldn't you 
agree, especially in this conversation?

i still owe you a critical synopsis of Zizek's thoughts on the failure of 
resistance and resilience and recalcitrance
vis à vis totality of capitalism;  i also am finding it hard to translate the 
Sparta metaphor, but will try later;

first I wish to ask how others reacted to Aristide's evocation of Athens 
(Greece) , considering it the contemporary city 
that comes first in a series of cities that cannot anymore be included in a 
homogeneous European community. 
The city changed violently during the last years..The violent changes in 
the city divided a homogeneous territory 
in gated communities and ghettoes...a war field... indicative of the 
future.

You may find my reaction insulting, or as patronizing as I assume Alain Badiou 
et al to be (Save the Greeks...)...
but i do find what you write overly dramatically in tone, and you speak of what 
one might find a completely imaginary 
homogeneous European community that I doubt existed in any way you wish to 
state or propose  here.
Europe or the Euro-Zone never existed as a homogenous community.

respectfully
Johannes Birringer

PS:  and the messianic side of Benjamin was probably destroyed for good in 
1939-40. 
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Re: [-empyre-] re/claiming and unsettling / continuing artistic practices

2012-03-09 Thread Ana Valdés
Dear Johannes, I was struck the same way as you after the description of
Athens as a trruly European city. I have been in almost the whole European
continent and never found two cities similar to each other, not either the
Scandinavian capitals, in the perifery of Europe, almost like the Romans
limitanae.
I was in Skopje last year, in Belgrad as well, in Tuzla in Bosnien and
never found a familiarity or a common ground.
That's because I put into the discussion Damascus, Istanbul and Jerusalem,
more related to each other than Paris to London.
Ana, totally agree with you about Benjamins irony. I have read Passagenwek
in different languages, but never owned it. Ans Spanish is still my best
language, followed very narrowly by Swedish :


On Fri, Mar 9, 2012 at 9:33 PM, Johannes Birringer 
johannes.birrin...@brunel.ac.uk wrote:



 dear Ana, i can empathize with you enjoying the arrival of Benjamin's
 Passagenwerk,
 hmm, but i hope you share his saddened sense of irony (we always have
 nostalgia of what is left behind)
 it's of course best not to indulge in sentimental nostalgia, wouldn't you
 agree, especially in this conversation?

 i still owe you a critical synopsis of Zizek's thoughts on the failure of
 resistance and resilience and recalcitrance
 vis à vis totality of capitalism;  i also am finding it hard to translate
 the Sparta metaphor, but will try later;

 first I wish to ask how others reacted to Aristide's evocation of Athens
 (Greece) , considering it the contemporary city
 that comes first in a series of cities that cannot anymore be included in
 a homogeneous European community.
 The city changed violently during the last years..The violent changes
 in the city divided a homogeneous territory
 in gated communities and ghettoes...a war field... indicative of the
 future.

 You may find my reaction insulting, or as patronizing as I assume Alain
 Badiou et al to be (Save the Greeks...)...
 but i do find what you write overly dramatically in tone, and you speak of
 what one might find a completely imaginary
 homogeneous European community that I doubt existed in any way you wish
 to state or propose  here.
 Europe or the Euro-Zone never existed as a homogenous community.

 respectfully
 Johannes Birringer

 PS:  and the messianic side of Benjamin was probably destroyed for good in
 1939-40.
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Re: [-empyre-] re/claiming and unsettling / continuing artistic practices

2012-03-09 Thread Johannes Birringer


Eduardo Navas schreibt: 


One thing that struck me, though, as I read the posts is that perhaps we should 
consider how the meaning of the terms in discussion may be different in our 
times from others.  Some posts have recalled the movement of 68 and its 
relation to the occupy movement. Other posts have discussed and provided links 
to different manifestations of urban resilience.  But one of the challenges of 
a critical position, in my view, is to be able to adjust itself to the changes 
of the system it aims to critique.  In particular, I find the role of 
technology fascinating in this respect.
..
Didn’t technology have such a role that without it, it would have been quite 
difficult to pull off such a decentralized, yet well organized event?  


It seems you are suggesting technology to be instrumental in an uprising or a 
resistance movement.  Technologies and techniques , arguably, are always used, 
by power and by actors who are affected by it, resist, rise up, recede, etc.
Are you saying that social network media (presumably used by all sides, power 
and resisters) determine revolutions?  (twitter revolutions)?  Which Iranian 
twitter revolution did you have in mind, and how to you denote revolution?

respectfully
Johannes Birringer
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Re: [-empyre-] re/claiming and unsettling / continuing artistic practices

2012-03-09 Thread Eduardo Navas
Hi Johannes,

If you click on the link I provided you will quickly understand my position
which I already alluded to in my brief post. To this effect, Ana actually
responded to I wrote and I don't think additional commentary on my part can
be useful at this stage of the discussion. I will certainly contribute
throughout the month.  In the mean time, the text-link I provided is very
specific about my critical position for those actually interested.  The
questions you ask me would not come up if you had visited it before your
response.  

Cheers,

Eduardo

On 3/9/12 3:58 PM, Johannes Birringer johannes.birrin...@brunel.ac.uk
wrote:

 
 
 Eduardo Navas schreibt:
 
 
 One thing that struck me, though, as I read the posts is that perhaps we
 should consider how the meaning of the terms in discussion may be different in
 our times from others.  Some posts have recalled the movement of 68 and its
 relation to the occupy movement. Other posts have discussed and provided links
 to different manifestations of urban resilience.  But one of the challenges of
 a critical position, in my view, is to be able to adjust itself to the changes
 of the system it aims to critique.  In particular, I find the role of
 technology fascinating in this respect.
 ..
 Didn¹t technology have such a role that without it, it would have been quite
 difficult to pull off such a decentralized, yet well organized event?  
 
 
 It seems you are suggesting technology to be instrumental in an uprising or
 a resistance movement.  Technologies and techniques , arguably, are always
 used, by power and by actors who are affected by it, resist, rise up, recede,
 etc.
 Are you saying that social network media (presumably used by all sides,
 power and resisters) determine revolutions?  (twitter revolutions)?  Which
 Iranian twitter revolution did you have in mind, and how to you denote
 revolution?
 
 respectfully
 Johannes Birringer
 dap-lab
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Re: [-empyre-] re/claiming and unsettling / continuing artistic practices

2012-03-09 Thread Antonas Office
Dear Ana,

I do not find Johannes reaction insulting nor patronizing. I only think it is 
wrong strategically to underestimate a change. I propose a reading of an urban 
field; I think that there is a significant transformation recorded in the city 
of Athens and that we have to study it not as an isolated phenomenon but as a 
part of a changing equilibrium. Of course: no homogeneity is absolute, no 
change erases a past conditions but some observations are needed in order to 
orient our future works.

Aristide Antonas

Sent from antonas iPhone

On Mar 9, 2012, at 22:33, Johannes Birringer johannes.birrin...@brunel.ac.uk 
wrote:

 
 
 dear Ana, i can empathize with you enjoying the arrival of Benjamin's 
 Passagenwerk, 
 hmm, but i hope you share his saddened sense of irony (we always have 
 nostalgia of what is left behind)
 it's of course best not to indulge in sentimental nostalgia, wouldn't you 
 agree, especially in this conversation?
 
 i still owe you a critical synopsis of Zizek's thoughts on the failure of 
 resistance and resilience and recalcitrance
 vis à vis totality of capitalism;  i also am finding it hard to translate the 
 Sparta metaphor, but will try later;
 
 first I wish to ask how others reacted to Aristide's evocation of Athens 
 (Greece) , considering it the contemporary city 
 that comes first in a series of cities that cannot anymore be included in a 
 homogeneous European community. 
 The city changed violently during the last years..The violent changes in 
 the city divided a homogeneous territory 
 in gated communities and ghettoes...a war field... indicative of the 
 future.
 
 You may find my reaction insulting, or as patronizing as I assume Alain 
 Badiou et al to be (Save the Greeks...)...
 but i do find what you write overly dramatically in tone, and you speak of 
 what one might find a completely imaginary 
 homogeneous European community that I doubt existed in any way you wish to 
 state or propose  here.
 Europe or the Euro-Zone never existed as a homogenous community.
 
 respectfully
 Johannes Birringer
 
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Re: [-empyre-] re/claiming and unsettling / continuing artistic practices

2012-03-08 Thread Kamen Nedev
On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 3:34 PM, Johannes Birringer
johannes.birrin...@brunel.ac.uk wrote:
 kamen argues:
This notion - of retreat, of losing the centre - is something I'm researching 
right now in terms of art practice

 could you elaborate on that, and your proposition that citizens produce 
 public space,  perhaps also in response to Alan Sondheim;s justified 
 skepticism, and his mentioning of the resilient governing forces?

Ah, indeed, retreat as recession (= to recede).

This is actually slightly off-topic here, especially with regards to
pin-point the nuances that distinguish resistance, resilience,
recalcitrance, etc.

But, yes, in the light of the 15M movement in Spain last summer, and
the Acampada Sol phenomenon - and ESPECIALLY the late reaction and
poor performance of the different Culture Commissions in different
occupations all over the country - I started pondering the idea of
what might define a critical aesthetic practice which could be truly
adequate to these phenomena and to the historical moment we're
experiencing.

My initial impression - which was later confirmed by the
OccupyWallStreet phenomenon - was that the contemporary art sphere was
responding to this with the received wisdom and the aesthetic language
of critical art practices from the 1960's and 1970's of last century.
Not an inspiring sight.

Some of the strongholds I came accross in this process came from
critical thought, and some of them manifested themselves in actual
direct activist practice.

On the one hand, already back in 2009, Hal Foster, David Joselit, and
Yve-Alain Bois launched an open call for discussion on the notion of
Recessional Aesthetics. The resulting debate was later published in
Recessional Aesthetics: An Exchange, October 135, Winter 2011, pp.
93-116.

But, back in 2009, Paul Chan published his talk The Spirit of
Recession (October 129, Summer 2009, pp. 3-12.). There, he attempts
to outline an aesthetic understanding of the current recession, and
resorts to an interesting etymological reading of the term, and,
eventually, finds an empowering aspect to it in the significance of
the recessional hymn in church service:

For the other definition of recession has to do with the church,
namely, the time after church service when the clergy departs and the
people who make up the congregation are left to themselves. As the
church authorities leave, a hymn is sung. This is called a
recessional. (Ibid., pp. 10-11)

And it is here, in the act of leaving and singing, that the idea of a
recession gains its transformative potential. For a church without
authority is blessed indeed. The end of the service announces the
beginning of another kind of time: no more commands for sacrifice and
expressions of faith; no more sermons from the book of Progress; no
more exchange of prayers. Time holds no more duties and returns to the
poeple a sense of being neither guaranteed nor determined, and inner
composition unburdened by the anxiety of influence, one which finds
its own shape only when power recedes. This is the time when thoughts
turn away from the authority that captures their attention from above
and from within, and toward the radical demands of life after church.
(Ibid, p. 11)


Now, in an (apparently) wholly unrelated context, I was deeply
impressed at the events surrounding Acampada Sol between August 2nd
and August 5th 2011.

In preparation for the Pope to Madrid, the authorities, fearing the
response of activists, decided to cordon off Puerta del Sol and this,
somehow, behead the protest movement. Partly, this was done with the
assumption that, this being August in Madrid, most people would have
left on holiday. But the authorities must not have been reading the
salmon pages in the newspaper - most of us were skint and had to stay
in Madrid for the summer, so Sol was soon besieged by a crowd of over
10 000 demostrators, demanding access to the square.

Of course, the principle of non-violence upheld by the movement meant
that forcing our way through the riot police cordons was not an
option, so for most of the first day, it was mostly a stalemate.

Then something interesting happened. Frustrated at the impossibility
of moving forward, and following someone's chant os Ciao! Ciao! Ciao!
¡Nos vamos a Callao! (We're off to Callao!), all of us followed suit
and left the main square behind to concentrate on the nearby square of
Callao. Then, a demonstration started from there and proceed to block
the traffic and take over most of the major avenues and streets of the
city centre. The operation was repeated the following three days,
until, eventually, on the 5th of August, the demo reached Puerta del
Sol, only to find the police cordons had disappeared and access to the
square was open. So, the demo entered the square triumphantly, held a
long general assembly, partied for a while, and, like an exceptionally
lenghty flashmob, abandoned the square once more.

There is nothing exceptional about this, historically. 

Re: [-empyre-] re/claiming and unsettling / continuing artistic practices

2012-03-08 Thread Johannes Birringer
dear all


Kamen's response   – regarding the spirit of recession -  is so evocative and 
striking that I want to just let it stay here, 
and take more time reflect further, on what you yourself wonder The 
question is how to continue being a moving target,
shifting gears, adopting new tactics, new approaches, new practices  and what 
you pose to interrogate, namely whether
there is a critical aesthetic practice which could be truly adequate to these 
phenomena and to the historical moment we're
experiencing,  rather than a  contemporary art sphere [that] was responding 
to [the political  activist movements] with the received wisdom and the 
aesthetic language
of critical art practices from the 1960's and 1970's of last century. Not an 
inspiring sight.


What artistic critical practices of tactical receding would that be?

The thoughts on  Slajoy Zizek's lecture will have to wait... (I had planned
to mention his reference to Greece, to see what  Aristide Antonas might reply 
(after he suggested  Athens is emblematic for the future - why?) .
Strangely, Zizek went for a (mythopoetic?) analogy, in his critique of how the 
new political activist uprisers or occupiers misunderstand global capitalism's 
totality,
and he mentioned Sparta.  It was a truly strange moment in his lecture to hear 
him reflect back on the ancient military struggle between Athens and Sparta.

..

interesting feedback from  Ethel, Pablo and Alicia  Ana,  and Ana's 
proposition of an autogestionated culture  (experiencia autogestionaria) -  
as Alicia i think references the handmade books (Eloisa Cartonera) --cannot but 
raise
questions that point in the direction, perhaps, of what Kamen or Pablo 
interrogated.  but the notion of handmade also seems to be caught perhaps on 
the received wisdom and aesthetic languages of the past? (of institutional
critique or arte povera?), artistic civil disobedience always has a somewhat 
bad taste attached, no?


peace

johannes birringer
dap lab



Kamen schreibt: 


Ah, indeed, retreat as recession (= to recede).

This is actually slightly off-topic here, especially with regards to
pin-point the nuances that distinguish resistance, resilience,
recalcitrance, etc.

But, yes, in the light of the 15M movement in Spain last summer, and
the Acampada Sol phenomenon - and ESPECIALLY the late reaction and
poor performance of the different Culture Commissions in different
occupations all over the country - I started pondering the idea of
what might define a critical aesthetic practice which could be truly
adequate to these phenomena and to the historical moment we're
experiencing.

My initial impression - which was later confirmed by the
OccupyWallStreet phenomenon - was that the contemporary art sphere was
responding to this with the received wisdom and the aesthetic language
of critical art practices from the 1960's and 1970's of last century.
Not an inspiring sight.

Some of the strongholds I came accross in this process came from
critical thought, and some of them manifested themselves in actual
direct activist practice.

On the one hand, already back in 2009, Hal Foster, David Joselit, and
Yve-Alain Bois launched an open call for discussion on the notion of
Recessional Aesthetics. The resulting debate was later published in
Recessional Aesthetics: An Exchange, October 135, Winter 2011, pp.
93-116.

But, back in 2009, Paul Chan published his talk The Spirit of
Recession (October 129, Summer 2009, pp. 3-12.). There, he attempts
to outline an aesthetic understanding of the current recession, and
resorts to an interesting etymological reading of the term, and,
eventually, finds an empowering aspect to it in the significance of
the recessional hymn in church service:

For the other definition of recession has to do with the church,
namely, the time after church service when the clergy departs and the
people who make up the congregation are left to themselves. As the
church authorities leave, a hymn is sung. This is called a
recessional. (Ibid., pp. 10-11)

And it is here, in the act of leaving and singing, that the idea of a
recession gains its transformative potential. For a church without
authority is blessed indeed. The end of the service announces the
beginning of another kind of time: no more commands for sacrifice and
expressions of faith; no more sermons from the book of Progress; no
more exchange of prayers. Time holds no more duties and returns to the
poeple a sense of being neither guaranteed nor determined, and inner
composition unburdened by the anxiety of influence, one which finds
its own shape only when power recedes. This is the time when thoughts
turn away from the authority that captures their attention from above
and from within, and toward the radical demands of life after church.
(Ibid, p. 11)


Now, in an (apparently) wholly unrelated context, I was deeply
impressed at the events surrounding Acampada Sol between August 2nd
and August 5th 2011.

In preparation for the Pope to 

Re: [-empyre-] re/claiming and unsettling / continuing artistic practices

2012-03-08 Thread Ana Valdés
Dear all, I am very happy about the broad range of our discussion! Next
week we are going to have two writers and I am delighted to see some of
them (Leandro, Alicia) already participating...
The examples raised by Alicia, the publisher house Eloisa Cartonera and
their Uruguayan syster, La propia cartonera, are indeed examples of arte
povera and they were invited to the Sao Paulo Biennal some years ago, to
present their work in a artistist context. I attended the Biennal and
talked to them and they impressed me with their very political way of
concieve the publishing business, a business overtaken by bif
multinationals and the old media.
But I am sure Alicia and Sabela are going to present more examples of
resiliance and resistance generated here at Rio de la Plata.
Ana

On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 10:34 PM, Johannes Birringer 
johannes.birrin...@brunel.ac.uk wrote:

 dear all


 Kamen's response   – regarding the spirit of recession -  is so
 evocative and striking that I want to just let it stay here,
 and take more time reflect further, on what you yourself wonder The
 question is how to continue being a moving target,
 shifting gears, adopting new tactics, new approaches, new practices  and
 what you pose to interrogate, namely whether
 there is a critical aesthetic practice which could be truly adequate to
 these phenomena and to the historical moment we're
 experiencing,  rather than a  contemporary art sphere [that] was
 responding to [the political  activist movements] with the received wisdom
 and the aesthetic language
 of critical art practices from the 1960's and 1970's of last century. Not
 an inspiring sight.


 What artistic critical practices of tactical receding would that be?

 The thoughts on  Slajoy Zizek's lecture will have to wait... (I had planned
 to mention his reference to Greece, to see what  Aristide Antonas might
 reply (after he suggested  Athens is emblematic for the future - why?) .
 Strangely, Zizek went for a (mythopoetic?) analogy, in his critique of how
 the new political activist uprisers or occupiers misunderstand global
 capitalism's totality,
 and he mentioned Sparta.  It was a truly strange moment in his lecture to
 hear him reflect back on the ancient military struggle between Athens and
 Sparta.

 ..

 interesting feedback from  Ethel, Pablo and Alicia  Ana,  and Ana's
 proposition of an autogestionated culture  (experiencia autogestionaria)
 -  as Alicia i think references the handmade books (Eloisa Cartonera)
 --cannot but raise
 questions that point in the direction, perhaps, of what Kamen or Pablo
 interrogated.  but the notion of handmade also seems to be caught perhaps
 on the received wisdom and aesthetic languages of the past? (of
 institutional
 critique or arte povera?), artistic civil disobedience always has a
 somewhat bad taste attached, no?


 peace

 johannes birringer
 dap lab



 Kamen schreibt:

 
 Ah, indeed, retreat as recession (= to recede).

 This is actually slightly off-topic here, especially with regards to
 pin-point the nuances that distinguish resistance, resilience,
 recalcitrance, etc.

 But, yes, in the light of the 15M movement in Spain last summer, and
 the Acampada Sol phenomenon - and ESPECIALLY the late reaction and
 poor performance of the different Culture Commissions in different
 occupations all over the country - I started pondering the idea of
 what might define a critical aesthetic practice which could be truly
 adequate to these phenomena and to the historical moment we're
 experiencing.

 My initial impression - which was later confirmed by the
 OccupyWallStreet phenomenon - was that the contemporary art sphere was
 responding to this with the received wisdom and the aesthetic language
 of critical art practices from the 1960's and 1970's of last century.
 Not an inspiring sight.

 Some of the strongholds I came accross in this process came from
 critical thought, and some of them manifested themselves in actual
 direct activist practice.

 On the one hand, already back in 2009, Hal Foster, David Joselit, and
 Yve-Alain Bois launched an open call for discussion on the notion of
 Recessional Aesthetics. The resulting debate was later published in
 Recessional Aesthetics: An Exchange, October 135, Winter 2011, pp.
 93-116.

 But, back in 2009, Paul Chan published his talk The Spirit of
 Recession (October 129, Summer 2009, pp. 3-12.). There, he attempts
 to outline an aesthetic understanding of the current recession, and
 resorts to an interesting etymological reading of the term, and,
 eventually, finds an empowering aspect to it in the significance of
 the recessional hymn in church service:

 For the other definition of recession has to do with the church,
 namely, the time after church service when the clergy departs and the
 people who make up the congregation are left to themselves. As the
 church authorities leave, a hymn is sung. This is called a
 recessional. (Ibid., pp. 10-11)

 And it is here, in the act 

Re: [-empyre-] re/claiming and unsettling / continuing artistic practices

2012-03-08 Thread Eduardo Navas
First I want to thank Ana for inviting me to participate in this month¹s
discussion. I have been part of this list for many years, but I don¹t write
every month.  I do read most material that comes to my box, as I¹m always
interested in the discussions.  So it is good to have a commitment to write
more consistently from time to time.  Thanks again.

I have read the postings so far, and I¹m a bit overwhelmed by the diversity
and complexity of the material covered.  Discussing issues from Fukushima to
the middle east, the Americas and other parts of the world so far mentioned
can be a bit dizzying; but at the same time, it also feels quite natural.
This could be taken as one of the symptoms of a globalized world.

Regarding the concept of resilience and resistance, I wanted to share a few
points of my own.  I usually like to begin evaluating a subject based on its
denotative definition and to then move on to its connotations, which is
where most people spend their time debating the meaning of things in terms
of cultural understanding.

Resilience basically means that the material/subject/object is able to
bounce back or recover fast/well.  This term may be linked  to resistance,
which as we know means that a material or object may be tough to destroy.
The terms are easily interchangeable as synonyms under the right
circumstances, and in terms of cultural critical practices, I believe that
they are complementary.  This is more or less what I also sense in the post
so far contributed.

One thing that struck me, though, as I read the posts is that perhaps we
should consider how the meaning of the terms in discussion may be different
in our times from others.  Some posts have recalled the movement of 68 and
its relation to the occupy movement. Other posts have discussed and provided
links to different manifestations of urban resilience.  But one of the
challenges of a critical position, in my view, is to be able to adjust
itself to the changes of the system it aims to critique.  In particular, I
find the role of technology fascinating in this respect.  I think of the
Arab Spring and how it arguably would have been very difficult for it to
come about as quickly as it did if it were not for the appropriation of
social media.  I know Ana mentioned that what happened in Tahrir Square
would have happened, but I really wonder if this is really true.  Didn¹t
technology have such a role that without it, it would have been quite
difficult to pull off such a decentralized, yet well organized event?  You
can read my reflections on this if you are interested in this text published
on the Levantine Review:
http://www.levantinecenter.org/levantine-review/after-irans-twitter-revoluti
on-egypt

It would be great to hear your views on how resistance and resilience may
often be redefined for each generation.  I think people (we) do have the
tendency to reference these terms as though they are stable forms, but are
they?

Best,

Eduardo

 

On 3/8/12 7:45 PM, Ana Valdés agora...@gmail.com wrote:

 Dear all, I am very happy about the broad range of our discussion! Next week
 we are going to have two writers and I am delighted to see some of them
 (Leandro, Alicia) already participating...
 The examples raised by Alicia, the publisher house Eloisa Cartonera and their
 Uruguayan syster, La propia cartonera, are indeed examples of arte povera and
 they were invited to the Sao Paulo Biennal some years ago, to present their
 work in a artistist context. I attended the Biennal and talked to them and
 they impressed me with their very political way of concieve the publishing
 business, a business overtaken by bif multinationals and the old media.
 But I am sure Alicia and Sabela are going to present more examples of
 resiliance and resistance generated here at Rio de la Plata.
 Ana
 
 On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 10:34 PM, Johannes Birringer
 johannes.birrin...@brunel.ac.uk wrote:
 dear all
 
 
 Kamen's response   ­ regarding the spirit of recession -  is so evocative
 and striking that I want to just let it stay here,
 and take more time reflect further, on what you yourself wonder The
 question is how to continue being a moving target,
 shifting gears, adopting new tactics, new approaches, new practices  and
 what you pose to interrogate, namely whether
 there is a critical aesthetic practice which could be truly adequate to
 these phenomena and to the historical moment we're
 experiencing,  rather than a  contemporary art sphere [that] was responding
 to [the political  activist movements] with the received wisdom and the
 aesthetic language
 of critical art practices from the 1960's and 1970's of last century. Not an
 inspiring sight.
 
 
 What artistic critical practices of tactical receding would that be?
 
 The thoughts on  Slajoy Zizek's lecture will have to wait... (I had planned
 to mention his reference to Greece, to see what  Aristide Antonas might reply
 (after he suggested  Athens is emblematic for the future - why?) .
 

Re: [-empyre-] re/claiming and unsettling / continuing artistic practices

2012-03-08 Thread Ana Valdés
Thanks Eduardo for joining the discussion. Under your week we are going to
be more familiar with your research and thoughts but it's nice to have you
here in the discussion, as Alicia and Leandro. I love impacient and
enthusiastic guests! :)
Regarding the importance of the new technologies (Twitter, social media,
cellphones) to make things happen in different parts of the world, Tahir
Square, Teheran some years ago, Acampada de Sol, Occupy Wall Street, etc,
let me be a bit romantic :)
The Paris commune happened in the last century in Paris without any
technology, the taking of the Bastille too, I mean when riots and
revolutions start it's difficult to point a beginning, the first shout, who
started...
Yes social media makes easier the gatherings but I believe people shoud ha
been gathering anyway :)

Ana

On Fri, Mar 9, 2012 at 6:13 AM, Eduardo Navas edua...@navasse.net wrote:

  First I want to thank Ana for inviting me to participate in this month’s
 discussion. I have been part of this list for many years, but I don’t write
 every month.  I do read most material that comes to my box, as I’m always
 interested in the discussions.  So it is good to have a commitment to write
 more consistently from time to time.  Thanks again.

 I have read the postings so far, and I’m a bit overwhelmed by the
 diversity and complexity of the material covered.  Discussing issues from
 Fukushima to the middle east, the Americas and other parts of the world so
 far mentioned can be a bit dizzying; but at the same time, it also feels
 quite natural.  This could be taken as one of the symptoms of a globalized
 world.

 Regarding the concept of resilience and resistance, I wanted to share a
 few points of my own.  I usually like to begin evaluating a subject based
 on its denotative definition and to then move on to its connotations, which
 is where most people spend their time debating the meaning of things in
 terms of cultural understanding.

 Resilience basically means that the material/subject/object is able to
 bounce back or recover fast/well.  This term may be linked  to resistance,
 which as we know means that a material or object may be tough to destroy.
  The terms are easily interchangeable as synonyms under the right
 circumstances, and in terms of cultural critical practices, I believe that
 they are complementary.  This is more or less what I also sense in the post
 so far contributed.

 One thing that struck me, though, as I read the posts is that perhaps we
 should consider how the meaning of the terms in discussion may be different
 in our times from others.  Some posts have recalled the movement of 68 and
 its relation to the occupy movement. Other posts have discussed and
 provided links to different manifestations of urban resilience.  But one of
 the challenges of a critical position, in my view, is to be able to adjust
 itself to the changes of the system it aims to critique.  In particular, I
 find the role of technology fascinating in this respect.  I think of the
 Arab Spring and how it arguably would have been very difficult for it to
 come about as quickly as it did if it were not for the appropriation of
 social media.  I know Ana mentioned that what happened in Tahrir Square
 would have happened, but I really wonder if this is really true.  Didn’t
 technology have such a role that without it, it would have been quite
 difficult to pull off such a decentralized, yet well organized event?  You
 can read my reflections on this if you are interested in this text
 published on the Levantine Review:

 http://www.levantinecenter.org/levantine-review/after-irans-twitter-revolution-egypt

 It would be great to hear your views on how resistance and resilience may
 often be redefined for each generation.  I think people (we) do have the
 tendency to reference these terms as though they are stable forms, but are
 they?

 Best,

 Eduardo




 On 3/8/12 7:45 PM, Ana Valdés agora...@gmail.com wrote:

 Dear all, I am very happy about the broad range of our discussion! Next
 week we are going to have two writers and I am delighted to see some of
 them (Leandro, Alicia) already participating...
 The examples raised by Alicia, the publisher house Eloisa Cartonera and
 their Uruguayan syster, La propia cartonera, are indeed examples of arte
 povera and they were invited to the Sao Paulo Biennal some years ago, to
 present their work in a artistist context. I attended the Biennal and
 talked to them and they impressed me with their very political way of
 concieve the publishing business, a business overtaken by bif
 multinationals and the old media.
 But I am sure Alicia and Sabela are going to present more examples of
 resiliance and resistance generated here at Rio de la Plata.
 Ana

 On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 10:34 PM, Johannes Birringer 
 johannes.birrin...@brunel.ac.uk wrote:

 dear all


 Kamen's response   – regarding the spirit of recession -  is so
 evocative and striking that I want to just let it stay here,
 

Re: [-empyre-] re/claiming and unsettling / continuing artistic practices

2012-03-08 Thread Antonas Office
Thank you Johannes Birringer for your observations. I would like to comment the 
Zizek's reference to Athens and Sparta. I was not there and I cannot see from 
your reference which was his point. I made my reference to Athens because I 
consider it the contemporary city that comes first in a series of cities that 
cannot anymore be included in a homogeneous European community. The city 
changed violently during the last years. The radical change is obvious by the 
growth of the homeless population occupying sidewalks and corners and with the 
garbage recycling works that keeps busy many athenian immigrants in the centre. 
Athens is maybe the first city in Europe that receives the spirit of a global 
unified world; it will show the reaction of europe over it. It maybe shows an 
image of the future because now in athens we can see a picture of what is 
happening next to us and the borders hide it. The violent changes in the city 
divided a homogeneous territory in gated communities and ghe
 ttoes. The city on some parts of it, is not recognizable, in some parts it is 
similar to a war field. What makes it also indicative for the future is the way 
Europe understands its recovery. The answer to this violent change seems to be 
a forced order and a constitution of a different status quo. A non voted 
government and the priority of the banks over the state is also a future 
feature which we observe already in Greece, in Italy, in Spain.

Athens was a normal European city and it is not any more. This specific change 
in its tissue I call emblematic. It seems that it will be repeated and the rest 
of Europe should know. It shows an ending to the architecture of the city that 
we knew. Something different and important takes place in Athens. New state 
strategies for a next western world are tested. This is why the difference 
between resistance and resilience is crucial here.

Aristide Antonas
Athens

Sent from antonas iPhone

On Mar 8, 2012, at 23:34, Johannes Birringer johannes.birrin...@brunel.ac.uk 
wrote:

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Re: [-empyre-] re/claiming and unsettling / continuing artistic practices

2012-03-07 Thread Johannes Birringer


dear all

thanks for all the postings herel
I was intrigued to read the conceptual (theoretical) notions offered, perhaps 
as a form of political thought or analysis, alongside the reports from the 
activist fronts and resiliences, and here
i especially found it helpful to hear of movements allowing us to imagine the 
urban contexts to be also, possibly, in strategic dependence politically on the 
non urban (the regions and hinterlands).
So, thinking less of 'swarm' logics and emergences, and more of grown/rooted 
resiliences and how they are/were tactics of the past. 

kamen argues:
This notion - of retreat, of losing the centre - is something I'm researching 
right now in terms of art practice  

could you elaborate on that, and your proposition that citizens produce public 
space,  perhaps also in response to Alan Sondheim;s justified skepticism, and 
his mentioning of the resilient governing forces?
I was also trying to think of Aristide Antonas speaking about the situation in 
Greece (Athens, he suggests, is emblematic for the future - why?) , and 
wanting to hear more from Leandro about how he
values the rural based Sin Tierra movement in Brazil  (i remember them 
occupying a huge strip of space going down the hill towards the government 
sector in Brasilia, i remember the red earth or sand where they had camped).

So many different locations were mentioned, in these past days, the struggles 
seem always local, and how to you compare Fukushima and, say, the Organizing 
for Occupation (O4O) movement to protest foreclosures of houses auctioned off 
in Queen, New York?  [cf. Gary Younge, The Itinerant Left has found its home 
in Occupy, 27 Feb 2012, Guardian, 
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/feb/26/us-left-home-occupy-middle-america].
 Does it however require, as Zizek maintains, to think in totalities? (and to 
assume neoliberal global capitalism to be one such totality unavoidably present 
and powerful?)

I am going to try tomorrow to report on a discussion we had in London last week 
when Slavoj Zizek came for a talk on The Deadlock –   Crisis, Transition, 
Transformation: Revolutionary Thought Today, and his analysis of
the OCCUPY movements was not encouraging (suggesting that 2011 was the year of 
the revival of radical politics, in its emancipatory form [OWS, Arab Spring, 
mass protests in Europe] as well as in its reactionary form [Hungary, 
Scandinavian countries, etc.]., Zizek hinted that, however, the very massive 
visibility of these protests does bear witness to a frustrating deadlock -- 
what do the protesters effectively want? Do they contain a vision which reaches 
beyond moralistic rage?).  

I am unable to say anything yet, have conflicted feelings and am trying to 
understand what networking means now; I was in Yamaguchi, Japan, last week 
for a workshop; and my friends in Tokyo, who had been much worried about the 
fall out from Fukushima, tell me that the status of Japanese society has been 
changing completely. It is said that Mt. Fuji will be active; and very 
interestingly, after the disaster last year, the leading companies move their 
head office to Osaka.  For example, Panasonic has moved their head office to 
Osaka and their procurement department has moved into Singapore !  Thus, even 
in performing arts, we hope to construct huge networks all over the world (not 
limited in internal Japan).  I participated in such a networked project last 
week, but it was not activist or politicized, and thus unrelated to resilience, 
resistance,  recalcitrance. It had an artistic side and an educational outreach 
side (to communities  children), but there was not a single reference to 
politics in four days.

regards
Johannes Birringer
dap lab
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Re: [-empyre-] re/claiming and unsettling / continuing artistic practices

2012-03-07 Thread @pablodesoto

El 07/03/12 15:34, Johannes Birringer escribió:


dear all

thanks for all the postings herel
I was intrigued to read the conceptual (theoretical) notions offered, perhaps 
as a form of political thought or analysis, alongside the reports from the 
activist fronts and resiliences, and here
i especially found it helpful to hear of movements allowing us to imagine the 
urban contexts to be also, possibly, in strategic dependence politically on the 
non urban (the regions and hinterlands).
So, thinking less of 'swarm' logics and emergences, and more of grown/rooted resiliences 
and how they are/were tactics of the past.

kamen argues:

This notion - of retreat, of losing the centre - is something I'm researching 
right now in terms of art practice

could you elaborate on that, and your proposition that citizens produce public space,  
perhaps also in response to Alan Sondheim;s justified skepticism, and his mentioning of the 
resilient governing forces?
I was also trying to think of Aristide Antonas speaking about the situation in Greece 
(Athens, he suggests, is emblematic for the future - why?) , and wanting to 
hear more from Leandro about how he
values the rural based Sin Tierra movement in Brazil  (i remember them 
occupying a huge strip of space going down the hill towards the government 
sector in Brasilia, i remember the red earth or sand where they had camped).

So many different locations were mentioned, in these past days, the struggles seem 
always local, and how to you compare Fukushima and, say, the Organizing for 
Occupation (O4O) movement to protest foreclosures of houses auctioned off in Queen, 
New York?  [cf. Gary Younge, The Itinerant Left has found its home in Occupy, 
27 Feb 2012, Guardian, 
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/feb/26/us-left-home-occupy-middle-america].
 Does it however require, as Zizek maintains, to think in totalities? (and to assume 
neoliberal global capitalism to be one such totality unavoidably present and 
powerful?)

I am going to try tomorrow to report on a discussion we had in London last week when 
Slavoj Zizek came for a talk on The Deadlock –   Crisis, Transition, 
Transformation: Revolutionary Thought Today, and his analysis of
the OCCUPY movements was not encouraging (suggesting that 2011 was the year of the 
revival of radical politics, in its emancipatory form [OWS, Arab Spring, mass 
protests in Europe] as well as in its reactionary form [Hungary, Scandinavian countries, 
etc.]., Zizek hinted that, however, the very massive visibility of these protests does 
bear witness to a frustrating deadlock -- what do the protesters effectively want? Do 
they contain a vision which reaches beyond moralistic rage?).

I am unable to say anything yet, have conflicted feelings and am trying to understand what 
networking means now; I was in Yamaguchi, Japan, last week for a workshop; and my 
friends in Tokyo, who had been much worried about the fall out from Fukushima, tell me that 
the status of Japanese society has been changing completely.
since 60s and early 70s activism in Japan was very little, mainy because 
massive students movement finished very badly at internal level (united 
red army killings) and externally (huge repression by state police)


and because of Fukushima more japanese people is becoming to engage in 
politics...




It is said that Mt. Fuji will be active; and very interestingly, after the 
disaster last year, the leading companies move their head office to Osaka.  For 
example, Panasonic has moved their head office to Osaka and their procurement 
department has moved into Singapore !


yes, and factories that were destroyed by tsunami are relocating to 
Vietnam and Thailand...
so corporations will cut workers expenses, it said is gonna be a quite 
big change for japanese productive economy
it s a typical corporate movement after a disaster, the ones that N. 
Klein explained in the Shock Doctrine about the previous big tsunami in Asia



Thus, even in performing arts, we hope to construct huge networks all over the world 
(not limited in internal Japan).  I participated in such a networked project last 
week, but it was not activist or politicized, and thus unrelated to resilience, 
resistance,  recalcitrance. It had an artistic side and an educational outreach side (to 
communities  children), but there was not a single reference to politics in four 
days.


sure, I have been 3 months in an art center in Tokyo with the same -no 
very much- political feedbak by artists


but there a few very political and active in town

you can see their work from page 42:  
http://es.scribd.com/doc/81789987/NuclearPowerPlants-RadicalArt



best

pablo
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