yes, SES, the non real world out there, needs __proto__ ... shenanigans all
over the world because of '__proto__' ain't important.
Thanks to be clear on it
On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 10:18 PM, Brendan Eich bren...@mozilla.com wrote:
Your writing is unclear and overlong, and full of unjustified
If against all odds, all code everywhere *did* magically drop __proto__
in favor of Object.setPrototypeOf, then SES and similar subsets would be
unable to protect secure code from ambient Object.setPrototypeOf usage
from the insecure side on the secure side's objects, unless
If a keyword represented as unicode escape sequences, should it interpreted as
identifier or keyword?
Example code:
\u0076\u0061\u0072 a
Should it throw a syntax error?
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I thought I'd share an update of my mental js work. I have since reduced
the parse time of mental and now added a DOM sandbox that uses ES5 to allow
safe manipulation of the DOM. This is so cool because it means that mental
can take control over your dom and then we can choose what we
On 21 March 2013 11:04, BelleveInvis infinte.c...@hotmail.com wrote:
If a keyword represented as unicode escape sequences, should it interpreted
as identifier or keyword?
Example code:
\u0076\u0061\u0072 a
Should it throw a syntax error?
Not entirely clear. There is a bug for it:
On 21 March 2013 00:04, Axel Rauschmayer a...@rauschma.de wrote:
http://wiki.ecmascript.org/doku.php?id=harmony:refutable_matching
- Would love to see examples for arrays. Especially if there are more
element patterns (lhs) than array elements (rhs).
Good point. I added some.
- Possible
As a keyword.
This is clarified in the ES6 draft
(http://people.mozilla.org/~jorendorff/es6-draft.html#sec-7.6.1 )
Allen
On Mar 21, 2013, at 3:04 AM, BelleveInvis wrote:
If a keyword represented as unicode escape sequences, should it interpreted
as identifier or keyword?
Example code:
Yeah, rest patterns in other places were already decided out of scope
for ES6 a while ago. And I did not include them here either because it
is far from clear what a reasonable semantics should be for all kinds
of corner cases. Just consider:
let [a, b, c, ...middle, x, y, z] = {'0': 0,
On 3/21/2013 10:14 AM, Axel Rauschmayer wrote:
And with rest patterns at the end only, I don't think you'd ever want
to write ... without a subpattern. The only difference between [x,
y] and [x, y, ...] would be that the latter (somewhat redundantly)
checks the presence of a length property.
On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 10:51 AM, Brandon Benvie bben...@mozilla.com wrote:
On 3/21/2013 10:14 AM, Axel Rauschmayer wrote:
And with rest patterns at the end only, I don't think you'd ever want
to write ... without a subpattern. The only difference between [x,
y] and [x, y, ...] would be that
Ah! I would expect [x,y] to only match arrays whose length is 2. Is there a
benefit to being more lenient?
I wouldn't expect that at all, for the same reason I would expect `let { x, y
} = { x: 1, y: 2, z: 3 }` to work.
I’m influenced by Prolog that has [x,y] and [x,y | rest]. Matching by
On 3/21/2013 10:54 AM, Tab Atkins Jr. wrote:
On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 10:51 AM, Brandon Benvie bben...@mozilla.com wrote:
On 3/21/2013 10:14 AM, Axel Rauschmayer wrote:
And with rest patterns at the end only, I don't think you'd ever want
to write ... without a subpattern. The only difference
Andrea Giammarchi wrote:
yes, SES, the non real world out there, needs __proto__ ...
shenanigans all over the world because of '__proto__' ain't important.
SES is deployed on major Google properties. I recall also Yahoo! but not
sure if still up.
I think again you are out of line. Am I
Referencing the presentation at
http://wiki.ecmascript.org/doku.php?id=meetings:meeting_mar_12_2013.
The module loader proposal outlined in the presentation is looking pretty
solid. However, there is a weakness which I would like to point out.
The primary change in this proposal is a link hook,
On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 12:25 PM, Kevin Smith khs4...@gmail.com wrote:
The problem is that the `options.metadata === node` test is
hand-waiving. In a mixed environment where a module may be an ES6 module
or a legacy Node module, how is the loader supposed to know how to link it?
Ideally,
On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 2:38 AM, François REMY
francois.remy@outlook.com wrote:
Phasing out failed experiments *is* possible. I don't think a browser that
doesn't support blink or marquee or even document.layers would have a
lot of problems to view the web as it's now, yet I remember a
On Mar 21, 2013, at 12:25 PM, Kevin Smith khs4...@gmail.com wrote:
Ideally, everything will just work, so that legacy modules can be used
transparently alongside ES6 modules.
I disagree with this premise. It shouldn't be ES6's responsibility to
auto-detect historical non-ES6 systems. If you
- look for a special comment at the beginning
For backward compat, you'd have to put the comment in new ES6 modules.
That's a spank-belt worse than use strict ; )
- look at the module name
import npm/moment as moment;
This is a good option, but it's not transparent. If you upgrade
Ideally, everything will just work, so that legacy modules can be used
transparently alongside ES6 modules.
I disagree with this premise. It shouldn't be ES6's responsibility to
auto-detect historical non-ES6 systems.
Of course, I tend to agree with your disagreement : ) But in any case I
No 'with' required for SES AFAIK. Do you have a code.google.com link?
Cc'ing Mark in case he is not reading es-discuss frequently.
/be
Brandon Benvie wrote:
On 3/21/2013 11:39 AM, Brendan Eich wrote:
Andrea Giammarchi wrote:
yes, SES, the non real world out there, needs __proto__ ...
On 3/21/2013 1:57 PM, Brendan Eich wrote:
No 'with' required for SES AFAIK. Do you have a code.google.com link?
Cc'ing Mark in case he is not reading es-discuss frequently.
/be
Brandon Benvie wrote:
On 3/21/2013 11:39 AM, Brendan Eich wrote:
Andrea Giammarchi wrote:
yes, SES, the non real
On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 10:04 PM, Brandon Benvie bben...@mozilla.comwrote:
On 3/21/2013 1:57 PM, Brendan Eich wrote:
No 'with' required for SES AFAIK. Do you have a code.google.com link?
Cc'ing Mark in case he is not reading es-discuss frequently.
Thanks.
If I understand correctly, this
Brandon Benvie wrote:
On 3/21/2013 1:57 PM, Brendan Eich wrote:
No 'with' required for SES AFAIK. Do you have a code.google.com link?
Cc'ing Mark in case he is not reading es-discuss frequently.
First, it doesn't matter: my point about SES being deployed in the real
world stands, whether SES
Correction:
On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 2:16 PM, Kevin Reid kpr...@google.com wrote:
Yes. SES requires 'with' as a means to hook into 'global' variable reads
and writes; without it, it is impossible
without performing a parse and scope analysis of the code to be evaluated
to emulate the
On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 10:18 PM, Brendan Eich bren...@mozilla.com wrote:
Your writing is unclear and overlong, and full of unjustified airs of
grievance -- please work on it.
I'll do more than that, I publicly and officially apologies for my writing
plus I will step back from this ML for an
Subject: Re: Unicode Escape sequences for keywords, what's the correct
behaviour?
From: al...@wirfs-brock.com
Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2013 08:41:35 -0700
CC: es-discuss@mozilla.org
To: infinte.c...@hotmail.com
As a keyword.
This is clarified in the ES6
Hm, Maybe I should establish an issue for Chrome, instead of IE. Thanks.
Subject: Re: Unicode Escape sequences for keywords, what's the correct
behaviour?
From: al...@wirfs-brock.com
Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2013 08:41:35 -0700
CC: es-discuss@mozilla.org
To: infinte.c...@hotmail.com
As a keyword.
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