RE: [eug-lug]woo-hoo, uptime 1 year!

2003-06-06 Thread Bob Crandell
Yeah, right. Mr O ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: If I weren't the hardware geek that I am I might actually go past 6 months on something. As it is, I usually change cases, drives, RAM, video cards, sound cards, motherboards, CDRW's or something else every few months in one machine or another.

Re: [eug-lug]Fun with Routers

2003-06-06 Thread Bob Crandell
Without knowing the model number, I'm hesitant to get dogmatic, but it really is for a modem. I use SMCs alot and really like them. Ken Barber ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: On Wednesday 04 June 2003 16:25, Grigsby, Garl wrote: Looking at SMC's sight it looks like some of their routers do sport

Re: [eug-lug](D|P)VR Software

2003-06-06 Thread Rob Hudson
Wired has an article about building your own PVR. Mostly talks about MythTV: http://www.wired.com/news/technology/0,1282,59088,00.html At the end of the article one of the links point to a Linux PVR page: http://pvr.forceconstant.com/modules.php?name=Web_Linksl_op=viewlinkcid=1 And a database

Re: [eug-lug]Die Die My Darling

2003-06-06 Thread Bob Crandell
Cory Petkovsek ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: On Thu, Jun 05, 2003 at 02:21:17AM +, Bob Crandell wrote: The problem will start again if I enable SPAMAssassin with /etc/procmailrc. Procmail version is 3.15.2. It is the stock one. I'm also using 3.15.2. Do you still have mail in a filter

RE: [eug-lug]Re: Fun with routers II

2003-06-06 Thread Grigsby, Garl
Perhaps, Perhaps. -Original Message- From: Beaker (Jeff W) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2003 9:58 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [eug-lug]Re: Fun with routers II * you can use a hosts file in Winblows as well (c:\windows\hosts) on NT, 2k, or XP that would be

Re: [eug-lug]Another Gentoo install

2003-06-06 Thread Jacob Meuser
On Wed, Jun 04, 2003 at 06:34:30PM -0700, Jack Morgan wrote: My guess is it wouldn't save much time. It'll probably extend the life of my hard drive though. I'll do a 'sudo time emerge -eu world' with and without PORTAGE_TMPDIR as memfs ... someday :) -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [eug-lug] Isn't Gentoo a 'metadistribution', not a binary one?

2003-06-06 Thread Jacob Meuser
On Wed, Jun 04, 2003 at 11:44:03PM -0700, Jack Morgan wrote: Portage, the package management application of Gentoo, has the ability to build a binary. This is handy if say you have a homogeneous network, and only want to compile once. You then can install the binary on all other pc in that

Re: [eug-lug]Die Die My Darling

2003-06-06 Thread Jacob Meuser
On Thu, Jun 05, 2003 at 03:04:50PM +, Bob Crandell wrote: I enabled SpamAssassin with VERBOSE=yes. Plus I installed the latest version of SpamAssassin. Seems I was a couple of versions behind. Before, it took 3 or 4 hours to make the system unusable. It's been running about 30 minutes

Re: [eug-lug]call me crazy

2003-06-06 Thread Linux Rocks !
Mike, Well.. thatst not entirely crazy, however livecd systems are fairly unstable, it may be a lesson in frustration... Jamie On Wednesday 04 June 2003 08:53 pm, Mr O wrote: : I think I just may try something nuts. Just wondering ahead of : time though... : Does the KNOPPIX CD allow

RE: [eug-lug]Think I'll stick around this is getting interesting

2003-06-06 Thread Grigsby, Garl
Wow, a Pentium Pro, anybody got a skillet and some eggs (I hear it doubles as a hotplate.) snip You think 1 PPro is hot, try two. One of the RH8 boxes we have here is running a Dual PPro 200. The motherboard, an ASUS p65up5, is so crammed with stuff that they has to put the voltage regulator

Re: [eug-lug]call me crazy

2003-06-06 Thread Ben Barrett
What sort of uptimes has anyone achieved with a livecd, btw? Anyone trying for that? grin, grimace BB On Thu, 05 Jun 2003 12:54:01 -0700 Linux Rocks ! [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | Mike, | Well.. thatst not entirely crazy, however livecd systems are | fairly unstable, | it may be a

[eug-lug]My distcc odyssey

2003-06-06 Thread Bob Miller
As some of you know, (Hi, Mike!) I have a new box. Its hostname is newbox. I am bringing up Gentoo on it. It's reasonably fast. It sort of has two CPUs. (A Pentium 4 w/ hyperhtreading shows up as two CPUs in Linux.) I have another reasonably fast box, the dual Athlon box I use for work. Its

Re: [eug-lug]Die Die My Darling

2003-06-06 Thread Bob Crandell
Jacob Meuser ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: On Thu, Jun 05, 2003 at 03:04:50PM +, Bob Crandell wrote: I enabled SpamAssassin with VERBOSE=yes. Plus I installed the latest version of SpamAssassin. Seems I was a couple of versions behind. Before, it took 3 or 4 hours to make the system

Re: [eug-lug]call me crazy

2003-06-06 Thread Bob Crandell
My record is 28 minutes. Woo Hoo! Ben Barrett ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: What sort of uptimes has anyone achieved with a livecd, btw? Anyone trying for that? grin, grimace BB On Thu, 05 Jun 2003 12:54:01 -0700 Linux Rocks ! [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | Mike, | Well.. thatst not entirely

Re: [eug-lug]A RedHat'r responds....

2003-06-06 Thread Roger
Around Wed,Jun 04 2003, at 10:54, Ben Barrett, wrote: So, we have 2 RedHat'ers on the list? (hehe, how many red-haters?) I'm using Redhat 8.0 on my laptop. I had problems getting other distros to work with this combination of hardware the laptop has. Mandrake was the first that I could

Re: [eug-lug]Die Die My Darling

2003-06-06 Thread Jim K
When running as root kill -s 9 PID where PID is the process ID I thought it was kill -9 PID I just tested kill -s 9 PID and it works. If the doesn't work try the command on other processes, also check the kill command against a known good kill command on another system to make sure it hasn't

[eug-lug]Thanks for deciphering that tar Bob...as it turns out it was all awaste of time

2003-06-06 Thread BAGGAB
Bob Thanks for deciphering that tar Bob. I could have stared at that for a while. I guess that the File-roller application doesn't work for all compressed files. As it turns out it was all a waste of time. So I extracted the file (with that command - minus the $) and started to follow the

[eug-lug]booting woes...

2003-06-06 Thread Linux Rocks !
So.. Im having trouble booting an older system. I have one disk with windows, slack 8, and slack9. When I try to boot slack8, I get this annoying message about unsupported features and to hit ctrl-d or type in root password (which boots into single user mode, with RO filesystem. I can then

[eug-lug]hardware junkies: acrylic case

2003-06-06 Thread Cory Petkovsek
Look what I found for you hardware junkies: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=2733756163category=31507 Crystal Acrylic Case+500W Dual Fan P.S+4 Fans $150, 12 avail, buy it now. Cory ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[eug-lug]Hasty read of sound card doc, lead to error

2003-06-06 Thread BAGGAB
As I understand it I don't need this OSS driver from www.opensound.com , its just an alternative. ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug

Re: [eug-lug]A RedHat'r responds....

2003-06-06 Thread Ralph Zeller
I use RedHat; I have it installed on about five PC's. It's easy, it works, but my uptimes aren't as good as some because of my cheap hardware and habit of turning off computers when not in use. I use Mandrake on the kids' computer--the menu's were better organized on Mandrake, and it came

Re: [eug-lug]hardware junkies: acrylic case

2003-06-06 Thread Bob Miller
Cory Petkovsek wrote: Crystal Acrylic Case+500W Dual Fan P.S+4 Fans $150, 12 avail, buy it now. Ah, cases. Very personal, very subjective. Here's an interesting collection of idiosyncratic homemade cases, all based on Mini-ITX motherboards. I especially like The Clock and The ToAsTOr.

Re: [eug-lug]hardware junkies: acrylic case

2003-06-06 Thread Bob Miller
Ben Barrett wrote: Eeek, don't these have major EMF/RFI shielding issues? Starting with not being FCC certified, moreover simply not being very safe (in that the contents of a PC *belong* in a faraday cage, no?)... although I plead partial ignorance, I wanted to ask. Most geeks will not

Re: [eug-lug]Hasty read of sound card doc, lead to error

2003-06-06 Thread Bob Miller
BAGGAB wrote: As I understand it I don't need this OSS driver from www.opensound.com , its just an alternative. That is correct. -- Bob Miller Kbob kbobsoft software consulting http://kbobsoft.com [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[eug-lug]silent computer link

2003-06-06 Thread E
http://fredrik.hubbe.net/watercool.html this is an excellent site on the subject of silent computing Ed __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Calendar - Free online calendar with sync to Outlook(TM). http://calendar.yahoo.com ___

Re: [eug-lug]hardware junkies: acrylic case

2003-06-06 Thread Ben Barrett
Thanks, Bob -- I'll check out silentpcreview. Perfect... in the meantime, I'll note that interference would be a problem for me, as I have an FM tuner (which I use, mostly for KLCC) on my tv tuner card. Already, I notice occasional banding on my tv reception, which I think is interference (since

Re: [eug-lug]hardware junkies: acrylic case

2003-06-06 Thread Cory Petkovsek
On Fri, Jun 06, 2003 at 11:30:13AM -0700, Bob Miller wrote: My question: what is the cheapest way to *quietly* make a system cool? Here's the mother lode of quiet computing resources. They have lots of good info both about cheap, and about extreme low noise.

[eug-lug]Well, its working...coolest thing I've done in a while

2003-06-06 Thread BAGGAB
Thanks to all, I finally got the sound card working, the readme.pdf wasn't as bad as I first thought. More operator headspace then machine. Brian ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug

Re: [eug-lug]hardware junkies: acrylic case

2003-06-06 Thread BAGGAB
Put on a portable AM walkman radio and move around the house / office. There are endless signals these days. On Fri, 2003-06-06 at 11:30, Bob Miller wrote: Ben Barrett wrote: Eeek, don't these have major EMF/RFI shielding issues? Starting with not being FCC certified, moreover simply not

[eug-lug]Life is sweet when your listening to J.S. Bach, then there's therouter...

2003-06-06 Thread BAGGAB
Issue: I note that when I have the modem set to activate at boot /w cat 5 unplugged my connection to the net works like a champ. Note: Before I was getting 'resolving what ever website you please' and Mozilla would hang. Problem: There is something to the activation / deactivation of the modem

[eug-lug]I was wondering about watercooling, thanks for your input Bob

2003-06-06 Thread BAGGAB
I was starting to drool at the mouth over a water cooled system. ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug

[eug-lug]enlightenment and fonts?

2003-06-06 Thread Rob Hudson
I've been using KDE 3.1.x for a bit now. I just noticed some activity on Enlightenment DR16 so I thought I'd compile the 0.16.6pre3 version and see what's up. I used to use E all the time but have tried different window managers lately. I installed the XFT(?) build of Firebird that enabled nice

RE: [eug-lug]hardware junkies: acrylic case

2003-06-06 Thread Grigsby, Garl
about the coolness factor, but are they safe? Also, acrylic is so brittle! Gah... And it scratches so easily. My question: what is the cheapest way to *quietly* make a system cool? Since you mentioned cheap, then water-cooling is out. After that you are stuck with some form of air cooling.

RE: [eug-lug]hardware junkies: acrylic case

2003-06-06 Thread Grigsby, Garl
Meanwhile, Mr. O and Co. graciously built me a new system inside an Antec Sonata two weeks ago. I like it a lot, though it looks like it wasn't the easiest case Mr. O has ever populated. Really? I thought Sonata was very easy to work with, given you thought ahead and got long, round IDE or

Re: [eug-lug]hardware junkies: acrylic case

2003-06-06 Thread Cory Petkovsek
On Fri, Jun 06, 2003 at 05:57:48PM -0400, Grigsby, Garl wrote: Meanwhile, Mr. O and Co. graciously built me a new system inside an Antec Sonata two weeks ago. I like it a lot, though it looks like it wasn't the easiest case Mr. O has ever populated. Really? I thought Sonata was very

Re: [eug-lug]enlightenment and fonts?

2003-06-06 Thread Rob Hudson
Nevermind. Ran the old shell script to launch the not-xft version of firebird. :) On 20030606.1354, Rob Hudson said ... I've been using KDE 3.1.x for a bit now. I just noticed some activity on Enlightenment DR16 so I thought I'd compile the 0.16.6pre3 version and see what's up. I used to

Re: [eug-lug]Linux at LCC

2003-06-06 Thread Jim K
For an linux intermediate class how about: shells, sed; awk; networking intro; vi or emacs ( a common command line editor); debian style install and update to current version( demonstration of non rpm update); ftp; ip tables for starters Jim K PS I might be interested in something like this

Re: [eug-lug]hardware junkies: acrylic case

2003-06-06 Thread Mr O
Case and 500W power supply for $150? Nah, a good 500W power supply by itself is $100. You'd probably just want to toss the power supply it comes with. Acrylic isn't really that bad of a material. It's quite durable but it does scratch easily. The advantages over glass are impact resistance of

Re: [eug-lug]hardware junkies: watercooling

2003-06-06 Thread Mr O
Well if I were running dual anything I'd probably be using the Eheim 1250 instead of the 1048. The increased water flow will probably drop your temps a bit more but being Athlons, who knows how much more stable it'd become. I'd like to find out the thermal capabilities of the MaxxPert radiator

RE: [eug-lug]hardware junkies: cases

2003-06-06 Thread Mr O
Well, the easiest of course are the Antec 1080 series, followed by the InWin S and J series. Sonata wasn't so bad. I'm sure I've come across at least 100 different designs. Many knuckle bleeders and lots of people that have tried to put things together themselves first. Mr O. --- Grigsby, Garl

Re: [eug-lug] I was wondering about watercooling, thanks for yourinput Bob

2003-06-06 Thread Mr O
Many choices here. FrozenCPU.com has high prices but a selection to drool on. Directron.com has a bit of selection for quiet / watercooled components. Xoxide.com for some stuff. DangerDen.com, friendly and local (Astoria)(let them know [EMAIL PROTECTED] told you about them ;-)) Lot's more really.