[eug-lug]Re: Window! sigh...

2003-12-18 Thread beaker
You must be running a Microsoft Windows operating system in order to use Windows Update. I think this just means you can't do the automagic M$ update over the web unless you're running IE (w/ cookies and all kinds of other things enabled too). Look for a link mentioning other browsers; I've

Re: [eug-lug]Re: Window! sigh...

2003-12-18 Thread Jamie
On Thursday 18 December 2003 02:31 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: : You must be running a Microsoft Windows operating system in order to use : Windows Update. : : I think this just means you can't do the automagic M$ update over : the web unless you're running IE (w/ cookies and all kinds of

RE: [eug-lug]Servers and endtables

2003-12-18 Thread Jason
Larry wrote: So, if you've always wanted the challlenge of wrestling with SCSI disk arrays, and getting HP netservers to boot both CPU's; setting up Samba etc. just show up on thursday. Aw man, will there be anything left for next week's meeting? I'm banished to the east coast until this

[eug-lug]new graphical browser winner for me.

2003-12-18 Thread Wayne Scace
Hi Gang, Wayne K9DI es LD Patriot here. I just wanted to drop a note letting the group know how happy I am with Firebird. It's as fast or faster than my beloved Konqueror and a damn sight faster than Mozilla itself (as far as I can tell). I haven't run it against

Re: [eug-lug]new graphical browser winner for me.

2003-12-18 Thread Linux Rocks !
On Thursday 18 December 2003 07:16 am, Wayne Scace wrote: : Hi Gang, : Wayne K9DI es LD Patriot here. I just wanted to drop a note : letting the group know how happy I am with Firebird. It's as fast or : faster than my beloved Konqueror and a damn sight faster than Mozilla :

[eug-lug]Linux 2.6.0

2003-12-18 Thread Darren Hayes
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Re: [eug-lug]Larry in the news!

2003-12-18 Thread Bob Miller
T. Joseph Carter wrote: No, actually, he was talking about the anti-spam law and how it's a beginning and all. I caught most of the segment at 5pm on channel 16 here in Eugene (3 on cable). I am watching for a repeat of the segment in their future newscasts today to see if I can catch the

Re: [eug-lug]Re: Window! sigh...

2003-12-18 Thread Linux Rocks !
On Thursday 18 December 2003 11:58 am, Brad Davidson wrote: : Just out of curiosity, why are you expecting Microsoft to provide you : with a driver download for your 3rd party hardware? I know that they do : provide updates for some built-in drivers via WindowsUpdate, but not for : all cards by

Re: [eug-lug]new graphical browser winner for me.

2003-12-18 Thread Ralph Zeller
On 12/18/03 12pm, Wayne Scace wrote: DISCLAIMER: While I do most of my browsing with lynx. IMHO still the fastest browser on the web, bar NONE! I prefer elinks myself, because it does a better job IMO at rendering tables, even though it tests a bit slower than lynx. The fastest browser

Re: [eug-lug]new graphical browser winner for me.

2003-12-18 Thread Christopher Maujean
Wayne Scace wrote: Hi Gang, Wayne K9DI es LD Patriot here. I just wanted to drop a note letting the group know how happy I am with Firebird. It's as fast or faster than my beloved Konqueror and a damn sight faster than Mozilla itself (as far as I can tell). I haven't run it against

Re: [eug-lug]Larry in the news!

2003-12-18 Thread Bob Crandell
Bob Miller ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: T. Joseph Carter wrote: No, actually, he was talking about the anti-spam law and how it's a beginning and all. I caught most of the segment at 5pm on channel 16 here in Eugene (3 on cable). I am watching for a repeat of the segment in their future

Re: [eug-lug]Servers and endtables

2003-12-18 Thread Larry Price
Yes, we'll be working on them at least through january On Tuesday, December 9, 2003, at 12:17 PM, Jason wrote: Larry wrote: So, if you've always wanted the challlenge of wrestling with SCSI disk arrays, and getting HP netservers to boot both CPU's; setting up Samba etc. just show up on

[eug-lug]Spam Law

2003-12-18 Thread Larry Price
Ok, the first thing you need to understand is that there was a fifteen minute interview that got condensed down to 15 seconds of a 30 second story. And television is not a medium noted for deep exposition of complex topics. I did take the time to actually read the text of the law before the

Re: [eug-lug]Larry in the news!

2003-12-18 Thread Patrick R. Wade
On Wed, Dec 17, 2003 at 09:41:55PM -0800, T. Joseph Carter wrote: I attempted to add one today via USB using a device I thought was supported. It's not. Not supported where; at the TiVo or at the other end? I've used the same model i gave you, with Debian on my VAIO. IF you're having

[eug-lug]pop3 - imap

2003-12-18 Thread Rob Hudson
I've got teapop set up on my FreeBSD server that handles my mail. I heard good things about IMAP and would like to also install SquirrelMail, which requires an IMAP server. Is there anything special I need to know to move from POP to IMAP? What is a good choice for an IMAP server? Thanks, Rob

Re: [eug-lug]pop3 - imap

2003-12-18 Thread Cory Petkovsek
On Thu, Dec 18, 2003 at 01:59:25PM -0800, Rob Hudson wrote: I've got teapop set up on my FreeBSD server that handles my mail. I heard good things about IMAP and would like to also install SquirrelMail, which requires an IMAP server. Is there anything special I need to know to move from POP

Re: [eug-lug]Larry in the news!

2003-12-18 Thread T. Joseph Carter
On Thu, Dec 18, 2003 at 12:34:58PM -0800, Patrick R. Wade wrote: I attempted to add one today via USB using a device I thought was supported. It's not. Not supported where; at the TiVo or at the other end? I've used the same model i gave you, with Debian on my VAIO. IF you're having

Re: [eug-lug]pop3 - imap

2003-12-18 Thread T. Joseph Carter
On Thu, Dec 18, 2003 at 01:59:25PM -0800, Rob Hudson wrote: I've got teapop set up on my FreeBSD server that handles my mail. I heard good things about IMAP and would like to also install SquirrelMail, which requires an IMAP server. Is there anything special I need to know to move from POP

Re: [eug-lug]pop3 - imap

2003-12-18 Thread Hal Pomeranz
Is there anything special I need to know to move from POP to IMAP? IMAP is generally more load on your mail server, since it tends to be used in always connected mode, rather than intermittant mode with POP. On the other hand, this only matters if you have a lot of people using your mail

Re: [eug-lug]pop3 - imap

2003-12-18 Thread John Sechrest
Hal Pomeranz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: % Is there anything special I need to know to move from POP to IMAP? % IMAP is generally more load on your mail server, since it tends to be % used in always connected mode, rather than intermittant mode with POP. % On the other hand, this only

Re: [eug-lug]pop3 - imap

2003-12-18 Thread Rob Hudson
I think I'll try the UW imap server. I'll have to figure out how to set this up using SSL similar to how I did it for POP, but I see that it has docs on this. Thanks all. -Rob On 20031218.1359, Rob Hudson said ... I've got teapop set up on my FreeBSD server that handles my mail. I heard

[eug-lug]linux 2.6.0 and nvidia drivers

2003-12-18 Thread Rob Hudson
I installed Linux 2.6.0 but apparently the module API changed enough that the nvidia driver installer no longer works. I found www.minion.de has patches but haven't quite gotten it to work... it compiled and loaded the module but startx dies on me. So I'm still tweaking... The new build of the

Re: [eug-lug]linux 2.6.0 and nvidia drivers

2003-12-18 Thread Rob Hudson
Looks like I got it... I tried installing the 4620 beta nvidia drivers and followed the directions lower in the README that showed using the nvidia-installer and it seemed to work just fine. Very nice. The 4620 beta drivers also install a binary 'nvidia-settings' that look pretty nice... -Rob

Re: [eug-lug]linux 2.6.0 and nvidia drivers

2003-12-18 Thread Mr O
I do like the 4620 drivers. I needed them for my FX5700 Ultra. Finding the installer was a pain though. The ebuilds didn't quite do their job. Not that I care because I still like installing some stuff my self :-P Yup, that's all. Mr. O --- Rob Hudson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Looks like I

Re: [eug-lug]new graphical browser winner for me.

2003-12-18 Thread Mr O
Have these tests all been run at various times during the day and in various order to prove your results? :) I know that if Mozilla is already open and I bring up a new tab I can have euglug.org loaded before I get to blink. Of course if you're counting loading time for the browser too then I'm

Re: [eug-lug]pop3 - imap

2003-12-18 Thread T. Joseph Carter
On Thu, Dec 18, 2003 at 03:52:09PM -0800, John Sechrest wrote: We are using Cyrus on PEAK. And we have seen it perform better than UWash IMAP, which we used before. However, it has broken some of our older tools like MUTT and MH. At least mutt should be easily fixed. I can't speak to mh,

Re: [eug-lug]new graphical browser winner for me.

2003-12-18 Thread T. Joseph Carter
On Thu, Dec 18, 2003 at 06:29:31PM -0800, Mr O wrote: Have these tests all been run at various times during the day and in various order to prove your results? :) I know that if Mozilla is already open and I bring up a new tab I can have euglug.org loaded before I get to blink. Of course if

Re: [eug-lug]new graphical browser winner for me.

2003-12-18 Thread Ralph Zeller
These tests are very un-scientific, but I'm not trying to prove anything. I use Mozilla on my fast computer and elinks on my slow one. I'm looking forward to the Mozilla Calendar, it looks pretty good, but it's still a little unstable. On 12/18/03 06pm, Mr O wrote: Have these tests all been