Bob Miller wrote:
EUGLUG is currently seeking donations of a new Ethernet hub. The old
hub has gotten flaky. We'd like an 8 port unit.
Mr. O generously donated a brand new eight port 10/100 autosensing
switch at tonight's clinic. What a guy!
Anyway, EUGLUG is no longer seeking a hub
This is a test, not a quiz. Please ignore.
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euglug in the near future, too.
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Rob Hudson wrote:
Is it ok what I did?
I think so.
RedHat, Gentoo, and Debian woody use a permission of crw-rw-rw- for
/dev/ptmx. /dev/ptmx is used to allocate ptys, and allocating a pty
shouldn't need to be a privileged operation.
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I got about half of it through BitTorrent last night,
but this morning I can't talk to the tracker.
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And since you want to play the sarcasm game, I'll offer that I post
to this list to get away from civilization :))
Uh-oh. Ken and Ben are about to get away from civil... discussion. (-:
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# /usr/sbin/info2flags
CHOST=i686-pc-linux-gnu
CFLAGS=-march=pentium4 -O3 -pipe
CXXFLAGS=-march=pentium4 -O3 -pipe
You can copy the variables into /etc/make.conf and as you update your
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So we committed to a date and we committed to a place,
and we try to support that for long periods.
The time, Thursdays from 6:30 to 9:00, has been stable for longer than
I've lived in Eugene. The place has not.
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In any case, next week's meeting is in The Buzz. I even posted a
message to the EUGLUG web site.
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, it was suggested that we use distinctive
icons and award books zero to N icons. If we want to do that, I
suggest ducks as icons. The duck is strongly associated with Eugene
and the U of O, and it looks vaguely like a penguin. (-:
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Are any of the Eugene TV stations broadcasting in HDTV yet?
Is Comcast distributing any HDTV content?
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level might
be awful, but it might not be. At the Indigo District, we're
guaranteed earsplitting sound. I don't know of any alternatives to
those two places.
I'd invite everyone to our house, but it's a little out of the
way. (-: Plus, the bandwidth sucks.
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AGENDA
1. Meeting locations for summer
If you want to add any topics to the agenda, let me know... If you
want to influence the outcome, be there by 7:00!
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http://no-ip.com
http://zoneedit.com
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automatically converted all mailman's data to the new format . (But
don't forget to restart qrunner like I did. (-: )
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Jason wrote:
On the topic of potential meeting places though, has
anyone thrown Cornucopia in to the mix yet? I've never
been, but I know that it has wireless. Selfishly, it's
also near home :)
Isn't it also very crowded?
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This is the official announcement. Beginning next Thursday, June
17th, EUGLUG clinics will be back at the OPN offices, 43 W. Broadway.
This is not a permanent arrangement, but it should hold for several
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Maryland. Sorry...
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Cory Petkovsek wrote:
On Thu, Jun 10, 2004 at 11:59:50AM -0700, Bob Miller wrote:
At tonight's clinic, I will be demonstrating two amusing hacks (they
amused *me* at least). One will appeal to traditional Unix users,
and the other will appeal to the graphically oriented.
Well, what
you how to create a working
grub configuration from whole cloth. www.gentoo.org.
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mean boot
partition?
Yes, it wants to know where /boot is. hdb1 would be (hd1,0).
I don't know why it isn't seeing your menu.lst. Syntax error
in the file, maybe?
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in xawtv?
grab, I think. What do these terms mean?
What about GL?
GL and DRI generally work.
What else is on your display at the same time?
A dozen xterms, an emacs, and a KDE desktop.
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Rob Hudson wrote:
Put net-www/apache-2.0 in my /etc/portage/package.mask and that kept
me at using apache-1.3.31. Nice. Thanks.
I think you also want the USE flag -apache2. That flag doesn't
affect Apache itself, but affects lots of packages that are built on
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/ , it's a Eugene/Springfield
restaurant review site.
* Disclaimer: Willamette.net gives EUGLUG rack space so we'll send
customers their way. So do mention EUGLUG when you talk to
them. (-:
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(All except Neal.)
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Cory Petkovsek wrote:
On Fri, Jul 02, 2004 at 08:22:53PM -0700, Bob Miller wrote:
Lest we forget what a surreal farce SCO vs IBM is, here is an excerpt
from a recent Groklaw posting.
Is it over?
Not really. None of the five US lawsuits has been resolved.
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a good time to switch).
Has he investigated Personal Telco? http://www.personaltelco.net/
Also, several of my friends recommend Speakeasy as a nationwide DSL
reseller who's geek-friendly. I don't know of any Portland-local
ISPs, but that's just my ignorance.
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software MIDI synth, which
was a very fun project.
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parliament last
week rescinding their minister's vote in favor of software patents.
Have any other countries followed suit?
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Has anyone heard of this? Is anyone interested in doing something
on that day? It's a Saturday.
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FLOSS even better. (Free/Libre/Open Source Software)
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addresses in an static-oriented DNS server typically takes about 48
hours to take effect globally.
Does that clarify things?
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T. Joseph CARTER wrote:
wait, remote root exploit + damaging system files + highly contageous
rates a 6!? What do winviruses have to do to get a 9, sheesh? Make your
monitor explode, maybe?
Infect Unix boxes.
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done
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Thanks for your help!
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What's W^X?
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80% of the CPU.
My IDE interface is an Intel ICH5 (i865 chipset). I haven't tried
hotplugging it.
I also have one USB drive, a Maxtor OneTouch. I've been using it for
real work for about four months under both 2.4 and 2.6 kernels. I've
had no problems once I got it sorted out initially.
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skew a system-level benchmark -- a benchmark that's 15% disk bound
on an i486 might be 80% disk bound on a Pentium 4.
But, since I'm not able to donate a 3GHz system to the cause... (-:
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interfaces will be more
expensive and/or less tested.
Are you building an offsite backup system or a commuter disk or what?
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this message on Sunday.
Check that you've enabled the alsasound startup script.
# rc-update show | grep alsa
# rc-update add alsasound default
If you're using a 2.6 kernel, you should be using ALSA.
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like a crap
shoot. As to the testing firewire has received, Apple has been using it
for a long time.
Yes, but Firewire on Intel Linux has seen a lot less use.
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Does anybody have a phone number for Jason Dommasch? I have a
semi-urgent need to get ahold of him, and he isn't reading mail today.
Thanks.
(Please reply to me privately. Jason probably doesn't want his
phone number archived on the web.)
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Timothy Bolz wrote:
This time I won't emerg sync until I'm online via dialup.
How did you sync without dialup? Sync pulls the latest files
off Gentoo's servers, and you need a net connection to do that.
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Hal's presentation is tomorrow. Don't forget.
Bob Miller wrote:
Sorry for the short notice, but we're delighted to have a
presentation for this Saturday. Hal Pomeranz is back, and
he's talking about hackers.
Topic: How They Do It: Unix Hacking 101
Speaker: Hal Pomeranz
Garl Grigsby wrote:
DNS request timed out.
timeout was 2 seconds.
That's too short. Try 10-20 seconds.
(Sorry, I don't know how to tune that using BIND.)
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to arithmetic imprecision
You can obviously embed that line in scripts in myriad ways.
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check what USE
flags Portage would use now to install a package like this.
emerge x11-base/xorg-x11 -vp
Also, it looks like this file lists the USE flags xorg-x11 was built
with.
/var/db/pkg/x11-base/xorg-x11-6.7.0-r1/USE
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before?
I'm reasonably happy with my own mail setup, but I'm concerned that
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# mount /dev/hdd2 /mnt/hdd2
# (cd /mnt/hda2; tar cf - .) | (cd /mnt/hdd2; tar xfp -)
-- or --
# cp -a /mnt/hda2/. /mnt/hdd # instead of tar | tar
For swap, just create new swap partitions.
# mkswap /dev/hd(whatever)
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Ken Barber wrote:
On Wednesday 15 September 2004 6:09 pm, Bob Miller wrote:
No. dd only works if the new filesystem is exactly the same size as
the old.
Which means that it would always work, since dd always makes the new
filesystem the same size as the old one.
I wonder if you
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better.
Any ideas?
The kernel has the gentoo patches (gentoo-dev-sources-2.6.8-r3). The
hardware is a P4 with a 3com 3c904 gigabit Ethernet chip on the
motherboard. I'm using the sk98lin driver, built into the kernel
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care of all
that crap.
Use Bugzilla. Plan on one person becoming a bugzilla expert.
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Thanks, Jake. That was the problem.
Jacob Meuser wrote:
On Mon, Sep 27, 2004 at 03:40:14PM -0700, Bob Miller wrote:
Last night I built and installed a 2.6.8 kernel. This morning, I
tried to use the network, and all my TCP connections hung. They'd
receive some data, then they'd lock up
large frames?
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Allen Brown wrote:
On Tue, 2 Nov 2004, Bob Miller wrote:
horst wrote:
Let's say I want to make my digital images all lowercase:
mv *.JPJ *.jpg
/usr/bin/rename .JPG .jpg *.JPG
I didn't know of rename. That's really nice. But according to the
man page your
load it. Ensure that your initrd image is
on the /boot partition and that your grub.conf gives the right path
relative to /boot. Also make sure it's the RIGHT initrd image -- it's
full of drivers and other closely-kernel-coupled things.
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drive xconfig completely from the keyboard --
no need to touch the rodent, if that bothers you.
I don't believe that GUI interfaces are always better than text-based,
and I can think of plenty of cases where they aren't. In this case,
though, xconfig wins the usability contest.
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Shannon C. Dealy wrote:
Perhaps xconfig is better these days, I haven't used it in probably 3-4+
years
That explains it. make xconfig was completely redesigned and
rewritten somewhere in the 2.5 series. It's nothing like the 2.4
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and measure its temperature with
the pyrometer as a proxy for case air temperature. Does anyone know
why that wouldn't work?
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Kernel 2.6.7 or 2.6.9. X.org 6.8.0-r3
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others print the number of bytes. Which did you want?
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horst wrote:
I have no idea how universal wc is (though not efficient), but
wc -c *.mp3
does the math for you.
Good idea. wc (including the -c flag) is largely unchanged since at
least 6th Edition Unix, circa 1975. Probably longer.
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Jacob Meuser wrote:
well, I didn't know about wc -c, thanks. however, the output,
at least on my system, is not easily parsable, as it is oddly
aligned, with varying amounts of space.
If you use wc -c file instead of wc -c file then wc
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in the end I didn't use
a modified initrd file.
I don't understand this. What exactly do you have in grub.conf now?
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don't have nscd, you're probably fine. If you want to make
sure, do this.
# strace ping -c1 www.google.com
and grovel through the output to see what actually happens.
If you WANT nscd, apt-get it. The package is called nscd on woody.
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the CS colloquia at the UofO. They're irregularly
scheduled technical talks about all kinds of topics. Send mail
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walter fry wrote:
from the SMP DISCUSSION I gather that the primary concepts of John von
Neumann are still the problem, called the acumulator bottle neck in the
8080 and Z8000 days, or am I old fashioned?
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) { ... }.
And that's wrong too. Zero is a valid file descriptor, but not
a valid pointer. Never mind that if you never pass the descriptor
to close(), you have a descriptor leak.
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if anybody wants to see...) I had two WiFi
cards, too, the Intel Pro/Wireless 2100 (aka Centrino) built into the
laptop and an Orinoco (Hermes) card. No joy with either.
Anyway, my question: What's in your WiFi troubleshooting toolkit?
When it doesn't work, what do you do?
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No, it was a Cisco.
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that's the access point's MAC. But is it?
Anyway, I used ifconfig, iwconfig (frustratingly), and kismet. What
else should I be using when the wireless doesn't work?
Take your laptop and yell out:
Can a brother get a ip address?
Uh, yeah. That's what I tried to do. (-:
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security updates, so IMHO,
that's out.
Another approach is to go with a distro like RedHat -- erm, Fedora --
and plan on a day of downtime every six to nine months when a new
release comes out.
In any case, do stay on top of the security updates, as rebuilding
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too. What's up with that?
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T. Joseph CARTER wrote:
On Thu, Jan 13, 2005 at 11:10:58AM -0800, Bob Miller wrote:
BTW, the current KNOPPIX (v3.7, 12/8/2004) still defaults to a 2.4
kernel and XFree86 too. What's up with that?
Defaults? As in, you can choose 2.6 and X.org?
You can choose 2.6. It is marked
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