Re: [EVDL] '91 BMW 318i conversion to electric

2024-04-29 Thread Paul via EV
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Re: [EVDL] '91 BMW 318i conversion to electric

2024-04-28 Thread lektwik via EV
>Nice to hear from you again, Roy! You too David :-) >I don't recall it being *quite* that bad. IIRC, you could usually get 40-50 miles of range with only 1/3 of the vehicle weight in lead. :-\ On a 75 degree day on level ground maybe. Drop temperature to 50 degrees and what did you get?

Re: [EVDL] '91 BMW 318i conversion to electric

2024-04-28 Thread EV List Lackey via EV
On 27 Apr 2024 at 23:58, lektwik via EV wrote: > It's been years since I posted here Nice to hear from you again, Roy! > good luck telling someone they can only go 50 miles max on a charge now > and that 50% of vehicle weight in lead batteries is required to do it. I don't recall it being

Re: [EVDL] '91 BMW 318i conversion to electric

2024-04-28 Thread Thos True via EV
2=9033257_source=1 > 5.1kWh, 2.1kW output, 100 pounds, $1000 > > Peri > > > > << Annoyed by leaf blowers ? https://quietcleanseattle.org/ >> > > > -- Original Message -- > From: "lektwik via EV" > To: "Electric Vehicle Discussion List"

Re: [EVDL] '91 BMW 318i conversion to electric

2024-04-28 Thread Peri Hartman via EV
le.org/ >> -- Original Message -- From: "lektwik via EV" To: "Electric Vehicle Discussion List" Cc: "lektwik" Sent: 27-Apr-24 23:58:21 Subject: Re: [EVDL] '91 BMW 318i conversion to electric Howdy Folks It's been years since I posted here (ever since discuss

Re: [EVDL] '91 BMW 318i conversion to electric

2024-04-28 Thread lektwik via EV
List Lackey via EV ev@lists.evdl.org > To: Electric Vehicle Discussion List ev@lists.evdl.org > Cc: EV List Lackey evp...@drmm.net > Sent: Thu, 25 Apr 2024 21:18:34 -0600 (MDT) > Subject: Re: [EVDL] 91 BMW 318i conversion to electric > > On 25 Apr 2024 at 10:48, (-Phil-) via EV wrote: > >

Re: [EVDL] '91 BMW 318i conversion to electric

2024-04-27 Thread EV List Lackey via EV
On 27 Apr 2024 at 16:18, Dave Delman via EV wrote: > Has anyone suggested looking at evalbum dot com and searching for BMWs? I did, but not very prominently, and an extra reminder is a good thing. The EV Album is an outstanding resource, a grat place to see what's possible. Make sure you

Re: [EVDL] '91 BMW 318i conversion to electric

2024-04-27 Thread Dave Delman via EV
Has anyone suggested looking at evalbum dot com and searching for BMWs? Thank you, David Delman eLectricDeLorean.com ___ Address messages to ev@lists.evdl.org No other addresses in TO and CC fields HELP: http://www.evdl.org/help/

Re: [EVDL] '91 BMW 318i conversion to electric

2024-04-26 Thread Harsha Godavari via EV
, 25 Apr 2024 21:18:34 -0600 (MDT) Subject: Re: [EVDL] 91 BMW 318i conversion to electric On 25 Apr 2024 at 10:48, (-Phil-) via EV wrote: In our case, no OEM has stepped up to make a decent van with good range thats supremely reliable with a low cost-of-ownership. So what E-vans DO yall have

Re: [EVDL] '91 BMW 318i conversion to electric

2024-04-25 Thread EV List Lackey via EV
On 25 Apr 2024 at 10:48, (-Phil-) via EV wrote: > In our case, no OEM has stepped up to make a decent van with good range > that's supremely reliable with a low cost-of-ownership. So what E-vans DO y'all have there? I don't know about Asia, but there are several choices in Europe, most of

Re: [EVDL] '91 BMW 318i conversion to electric

2024-04-25 Thread EV List Lackey via EV
On 26 Apr 2024 at 5:27, Bill Dube via EV wrote: > What is important to keep in mind is that BYD is is now offering a > Corrola-sized EV for about $15k. If I understand the news stories right, that's the $ equivalent to its price in China. Chinese vehicles always cost more in higher-income

Re: [EVDL] '91 BMW 318i conversion to electric/j

2024-04-25 Thread jerry freedomev via EV
Hi All,   I'm going with Phil here as the best engineered, lowest cost conversion now is swapping the whole Tesla rear end subframe and buying a control card from openinverter which has control cards  other drives too.And so, so many totaled the price should be fairly low.  DC controllers

Re: [EVDL] '91 BMW 318i conversion to electric

2024-04-25 Thread Thos True via EV
Chiming in here, My Dad (known as Father Time) and I built several conversions for over a decade (pre lithium). We rarely spent more than 5 or 10 thousand doing most of them. Bear in mind that we were careful about the condition of the donor vehicle. We usually did the machining in house, and

Re: [EVDL] '91 BMW 318i conversion to electric

2024-04-25 Thread EV List Lackey via EV
On 25 Apr 2024 at 9:14, (-Phil-) via EV wrote: > One common "old school" method was to bolt a DC motor to an old ICE > transmission with an adapter plate ... it's mechanically easier, but > you end up with a short range low-performance conversion. Exhibit B is the Solectria Force. It was an

Re: [EVDL] '91 BMW 318i conversion to electric

2024-04-25 Thread bill devos via EV
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Re: [EVDL] '91 BMW 318i conversion to electric

2024-04-25 Thread (-Phil-) via EV
Yes, I've owned a 325 long ago. What I'm saying is that no matter what form the conversion takes, it's a lot more time and money than you expect, almost without exception. I don't know your skills, but it seems like you are looking to pay someone to do most of the work, so expect multiple tens

Re: [EVDL] '91 BMW 318i conversion to electric

2024-04-25 Thread bill devos via EV
So you probably know the 318 is RWD now. To put a Tesla motor in the rear would require removing transmission and rear pumpkin and reworking the connection to the rear wheels, right? That’s what you’re alluding to regarding engineering, time and money? Bill William J. DeVos, AIA Architect 237

Re: [EVDL] '91 BMW 318i conversion to electric

2024-04-25 Thread (-Phil-) via EV
Yeah, people doing one-off conversions today are not (should not) be doing it for "low cost", that's just not possible. The motivation should only be borne out of love for the car you want to convert. In our case, no OEM has stepped up to make a decent van with good range that's supremely

Re: [EVDL] '91 BMW 318i conversion to electric

2024-04-25 Thread Bill Dube via EV
What is important to keep in mind is that BYD is is now offering a Corrola-sized EV for about $15k. https://electrek.co/2024/02/19/byd-launches-15k-qin-plus-ev-kicking-off-price-war-gas-cars/ It is impossible to build your own EV for even double this price, even getting all the labor for free.

Re: [EVDL] '91 BMW 318i conversion to electric

2024-04-25 Thread (-Phil-) via EV
In this age I declare DC dead. It would be hard to go wrong if you can cram a Tesla Model 3 rear drive unit in there, they are some of the most reliable and efficient units made. Unless you do something special (such as SepEx) you don't get regen with DC. This takes a large efficiency hit,

Re: [EVDL] '91 BMW 318i conversion to electric

2024-04-25 Thread bill devos via EV
Thank you, Lee. I will definitely look up these publications. I believe I did look at one of these last year and have to admit I was a bit blown over by the depth of the discussion for instance, how does one decide whether to go AC or DC? Bill devos. Rochester, New York. Sent from my iPhone >

Re: [EVDL] '91 BMW 318i conversion to electric

2024-04-24 Thread Lee Hart via EV
Hi Bill. Welcome to the EV Discussion List! Converting a car can be as big or as small a project as you like. I've been driving and converting EVs since the 1970's, and been on the EVDL a long time. I've seen everything from $1000 conversions with cheap surplus parts, to $100k conversions that

Re: [EVDL] '91 BMW 318i conversion to electric

2024-04-24 Thread EV List Lackey via EV
Hi Bill! Pretty far to go, I know, but here's someone who could probably help you: https://greenshedconversions.com/ That's Steve Clunn's conversion operation. Steve's a member of this list but hasn't posted very much in recent years - busy, I guess. Maybe someone else knows of a conversion

[EVDL] '91 BMW 318i conversion to electric

2024-04-24 Thread bill devos via EV
Hello, I have watched this discussion for some time but only now ask for your help: I am considering converting my BMW convertible to electric. It is a solid car with a blown engine. My mechanic is willing to help but has minimal EV experience. I need guidance and the electrical components. I