Re: Quantum Immortality = no second law

2008-04-21 Thread Alastair Malcolm
- Original Message - From: Brent Meeker [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, April 21, 2008 3:53 AM Subject: Re: Quantum Immortality = no second law Alastair Malcolm wrote: - Original Message - From: Günther Greindl [EMAIL PROTECTED] . . . Alastair argues

Is Everything well definable?

2008-04-21 Thread Bruno Marchal
Le 19-avr.-08, à 22:46, Günther Greindl a écrit : Dear Nichomachus, decision. If she measures the particle's spin as positive, she will elect to switch cases, and if she measures it with a negative spin she will keep the one she has. This is because she wants to be sure that, having

Re: Is Everything well definable?

2008-04-21 Thread Brian Tenneson
Hi Everyone, (is that a well-defined word?) First of all, I have not forgotten about an un-replied post from Bruno but I didn't want to quip something away without thinking about it and crafting something decent. But in terms of why should Everything be well defined, let me say a few things.

Re: QTI --- Expanding brains

2008-04-21 Thread Tom Caylor
Russell Standish wrote: On Sun, Apr 20, 2008 at 08:25:56PM -0700, Brent Meeker wrote: Does that mean that if I don't remember it, it didn't happen? No it means it did/didn't happen until such a time as a measurement indicates which. When it does, there will be two of you in different

Re: QTI --- Expanding brains

2008-04-21 Thread Tom Caylor
Tom Caylor wrote: Russell Standish wrote: On Sun, Apr 20, 2008 at 08:25:56PM -0700, Brent Meeker wrote: Does that mean that if I don't remember it, it didn't happen? No it means it did/didn't happen until such a time as a measurement indicates which. When it does, there will be

Re: QTI --- Expanding brains

2008-04-21 Thread Günther Greindl
The concept at fault here is the I - there is no essence to you, so it is rather meaningless to speak of what you where if there is neither exterior physical evidence (records) or interior physical evidence (memory) which ascertains a history pertaining to the current Tom Caylor pattern.

Re: On Russell's Derivation of Quantum Mechanics

2008-04-21 Thread Günther Greindl
Hi Russell, and Roy Frieden's approaches, and have you read Cosma Shalizi's review of Frieden's book? http://www.cscs.umich.edu/~crshalizi/reviews/physics-from-fisher-info/ I am not familiar with Frieden's Theory, but I know that Shalizi's reviews are well founded. Regards, Günther

Re: QTI --- Expanding brains

2008-04-21 Thread Brent Meeker
Tom Caylor wrote: Tom Caylor wrote: Russell Standish wrote: On Sun, Apr 20, 2008 at 08:25:56PM -0700, Brent Meeker wrote: Does that mean that if I don't remember it, it didn't happen? No it means it did/didn't happen until such a time as a measurement indicates which. When it does, there

Re: QTI --- Expanding brains

2008-04-21 Thread Brian Tenneson
Reminds me of a quote by Aliester Crowley: Psychiatrist: Look--how do you know you're God? O'Toole: Well, every time I pray, I find that I'm talking to myself. --- Peter O'Toole in The Ruling Class Brent Meeker From Magick by Aliester Crowley: I am a God, I very God of very God;

Re: QTI --- Expanding brains

2008-04-21 Thread Russell Standish
On Mon, Apr 21, 2008 at 12:56:22PM -0700, Tom Caylor wrote: Russell Standish wrote: On Sun, Apr 20, 2008 at 08:25:56PM -0700, Brent Meeker wrote: Does that mean that if I don't remember it, it didn't happen? No it means it did/didn't happen until such a time as a measurement

Re: QTI --- Expanding brains

2008-04-21 Thread Brent Meeker
Russell Standish wrote: On Mon, Apr 21, 2008 at 12:56:22PM -0700, Tom Caylor wrote: Russell Standish wrote: On Sun, Apr 20, 2008 at 08:25:56PM -0700, Brent Meeker wrote: Does that mean that if I don't remember it, it didn't happen? No it means it did/didn't happen until such a time as a

Re: QTI --- Expanding brains

2008-04-21 Thread Russell Standish
On Mon, Apr 21, 2008 at 06:10:52PM -0700, Brent Meeker wrote: What if my parents are named Riley and Mae and my birthdate is 1939, but I remember being Jesus? Brent Meeker Sounds to me like you would be suffering delusions then, but I'm no psychoanalyst. --

Re: QTI --- Expanding brains

2008-04-21 Thread Brent Meeker
Russell Standish wrote: On Mon, Apr 21, 2008 at 06:10:52PM -0700, Brent Meeker wrote: What if my parents are named Riley and Mae and my birthdate is 1939, but I remember being Jesus? Brent Meeker Sounds to me like you would be suffering delusions then, but I'm no psychoanalyst. So

Re: QTI --- Expanding brains

2008-04-21 Thread Russell Standish
On Mon, Apr 21, 2008 at 07:56:33PM -0700, Brent Meeker wrote: Russell Standish wrote: On Mon, Apr 21, 2008 at 06:10:52PM -0700, Brent Meeker wrote: What if my parents are named Riley and Mae and my birthdate is 1939, but I remember being Jesus? Brent Meeker Sounds to me like

Re: QTI --- Expanding brains

2008-04-21 Thread Tom Caylor
On Apr 21, 8:56 pm, Russell Standish [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Apr 21, 2008 at 07:56:33PM -0700, Brent Meeker wrote: Russell Standish wrote: On Mon, Apr 21, 2008 at 06:10:52PM -0700, Brent Meeker wrote: What if my parents are named Riley and Mae and my birthdate is 1939, but

Re: QTI --- Expanding brains

2008-04-21 Thread Russell Standish
On Mon, Apr 21, 2008 at 09:47:39PM -0700, Brent Meeker wrote: Do the contents of memory consist of what is presently being remembered in an OM, or does it refer to what might be remembered at some other time, or to the set of all things remember in all OMs? Brent Meeker I think this is