Re: How visual images are produced in the brain. Was Dennett right after all ?

2012-12-23 Thread meekerdb
On 12/22/2012 10:02 PM, Jason Resch wrote: On Sat, Dec 22, 2012 at 10:50 PM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net mailto:meeke...@verizon.net wrote: On 12/22/2012 5:10 PM, Jason Resch wrote: On Sat, Dec 22, 2012 at 3:48 PM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net mailto:meeke...@verizon.net

Re: How visual images are produced in the brain. Was Dennett right after all ?

2012-12-23 Thread Jason Resch
On Sun, Dec 23, 2012 at 2:00 AM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote: On 12/22/2012 10:02 PM, Jason Resch wrote: On Sat, Dec 22, 2012 at 10:50 PM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote: On 12/22/2012 5:10 PM, Jason Resch wrote: On Sat, Dec 22, 2012 at 3:48 PM, meekerdb

Re: Re: How visual images are produced in the brain. Was Dennett rightafter all ?

2012-12-23 Thread Roger Clough
Hi Jason Resch You're right. [Roger Clough], [rclo...@verizon.net] 12/23/2012 Forever is a long time, especially near the end. -Woody Allen - Receiving the following content - From: Jason Resch Receiver: everything-list Time: 2012-12-22, 14:16:52 Subject: Re: How visual images are

Re: Time travel and eternal life

2012-12-23 Thread Richard Ruquist
Roger, Don't you believe you already have eternal life. I do and I am not even Christian. Richard On Sun, Dec 23, 2012 at 6:37 AM, Roger Clough rclo...@verizon.net wrote: Hi Bruno Marchal and all, Do you not realize that 1p far enough into the past (presumably accessible to time travel),

Re: Can the physical brain possibly store our memories ? No.

2012-12-23 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 22 Dec 2012, at 11:58, Roger Clough wrote: Hi Bruno Marchal Thanks very much. Then could we not simply continue your train of thought to say that 1) all universal Turing machines require an extraneous UTM to interpret them, etc. etc. etc. That's why we have to assume at least one.

Re: Against Mechanism

2012-12-23 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 22 Dec 2012, at 22:01, meekerdb wrote: On 12/22/2012 11:56 AM, Jason Resch wrote: Deutsch et al. have solved the probability problem. I don't think so. If you are referring to his decision analysis, it only seems to work for simple binary choices - QM predicts probabilities that

Re: Interactions between mind and brain

2012-12-23 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 23 Oct 2012, at 08:03, meekerdb wrote: On 10/22/2012 11:35 AM, Stephen P. King wrote: On 10/22/2012 6:05 AM, Quentin Anciaux wrote: I don't understand why you're focusing on NP-hard problems... NP- hard problems are solvable algorithmically... but not efficiently. When I read you (I'm

Re: Strings are not in space-time, they are on space-time

2012-12-23 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 26 Oct 2012, at 21:19, meekerdb wrote: On 10/26/2012 6:19 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: Well, in defense of Craig, or of the devil, this has not been proved. The problem occurs, or at least is easy to prove only when we make the digital assumption. This entails a truncation of the subject,

Re: Dennett and others on qualia

2012-12-23 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 26 Oct 2012, at 21:22, meekerdb wrote: On 10/26/2012 6:40 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 25 Oct 2012, at 18:57, meekerdb wrote: Good points. The contrast is usually qualia-v-quanta. I think color can be communicated and we have an RGB language for doing so that makes it more quanta

Re: Nothing happens in the Universe of the Everett Interpretation

2012-12-23 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 28 Nov 2012, at 17:42, meekerdb wrote: On 11/28/2012 2:49 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: The question though is how does that happen? Actually comp is better than physics here. in physics we don't know why and how electron obey the SWE. It is the ureasonable use of math in physics. With

Re: the truth of science and the truth of religion

2012-12-23 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 13 Dec 2012, at 20:33, meekerdb wrote: On 12/13/2012 9:46 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: So I have no conflicts with science as long as I keep in mind what kind of truth is referred to. There is one truth. Let us search it. There are many true propositions, but I don't think they can be

the cult and the gospel

2012-12-23 Thread Roger Clough
Hi It's time somebody said it. Materialism is a cult and atheism is its gospel. [Roger Clough], [rclo...@verizon.net] 12/23/2012 Forever is a long time, especially near the end. -Woody Allen -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Everything List

Re: Against Mechanism

2012-12-23 Thread John Clark
On Sun, Dec 23, 2012 at 8:20 AM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote: as I said, there is no such thing as the future 1p view, there is only a future 1p view. But you have been duplicated. Yes. from your future person points of view In a world of duplicating machines there is no

Re: the cult and the gospel

2012-12-23 Thread Bruno Marchal
Hi On 23 Dec 2012, at 18:46, Roger Clough wrote: Hi It's time somebody said it. Materialism is a cult and atheism is its gospel. Not necessarily. You can also see it as an assumption in need of clarification. Or as a theory in need of a refutation. But historically you are right, the

Re: Strings are not in space-time, they are on space-time

2012-12-23 Thread Stephen P. King
On 12/23/2012 11:19 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 26 Oct 2012, at 21:19, meekerdb wrote: On 10/26/2012 6:19 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: Well, in defense of Craig, or of the devil, this has not been proved. The problem occurs, or at least is easy to prove only when we make the digital assumption.

Re: Dennett and others on qualia

2012-12-23 Thread meekerdb
On 12/23/2012 8:29 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 26 Oct 2012, at 21:22, meekerdb wrote: On 10/26/2012 6:40 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 25 Oct 2012, at 18:57, meekerdb wrote: Good points. The contrast is usually qualia-v-quanta. I think color can be communicated and we have an RGB language