David Bohm: Thought as a System

2013-09-01 Thread Evgenii Rudnyi
I am reading David Bohm, Thought as a System. A few quotes below to the theme that is quite often under discussion here. Evgenii p. 72 “We have to be able to think on this clearly; even though, as I said, that by itself won’t really change the reflexes. But if we don’t think of it clearly

Re: When will a computer pass the Turing Test?

2013-09-01 Thread John Clark
On Sat, Aug 31, spudboy...@aol.com wrote: at the end of the day I am a dualist I too am a dualist. I believe that John K Clark's brain and even his entire body is not identical with John K Clark, and I believe that because I believe in something far far more fundamental, nouns and adjectives

Re: When will a computer pass the Turing Test?

2013-09-01 Thread John Clark
On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 Telmo Menezes te...@telmomenezes.com wrote: I have noticed a disturbing trend, the use of the word emergent as a excuse for not thinking. Sometimes that might be the case. Here, it's context. Free will is a human concept. That is incorrect,free will is not a human

Re: Whui I keep posting about Leibniz

2013-09-01 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 04 Aug 2013, at 21:03, Craig Weinberg wrote: Thanks Freqflyer, It's interesting for me because in some respects, Roger seems like a shadow version of myself in that we are both driven by a similar cranksessive motivation to focus on the particulars of the Hard Problem. Having had no

Re: When will a computer pass the Turing Test?

2013-09-01 Thread Telmo Menezes
On Sun, Sep 1, 2013 at 6:21 PM, John Clark johnkcl...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 Telmo Menezes te...@telmomenezes.com wrote: I have noticed a disturbing trend, the use of the word emergent as a excuse for not thinking. Sometimes that might be the case. Here, it's context.

Re: David Bohm: Thought as a System

2013-09-01 Thread meekerdb
Unconditioned=random works. Brent On 9/1/2013 6:39 AM, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote: I am reading David Bohm, Thought as a System. A few quotes below to the theme that is quite often under discussion here. Evgenii p. 72 “We have to be able to think on this clearly; even though, as I said, that by

Spontaneous Brain Activity Controls Behavior

2013-09-01 Thread Craig Weinberg
http://ac.els-cdn.com/S089662730700/1-s2.0-S089662730700-main.pdf?_tid=4e78eb70-1321-11e3-bc23-0aab0f01acdnat=1378052132_997e220cfcf62a6d02d5ccd22660a221 The resting brain is not silent, but exhibits organized fluctuations in neuronal activity even in the absence of tasks or