On 10 Nov 2013, at 22:06, John Mikes wrote:
Bruno and Brent:
Who are you to T E L L society what it needs?
I am only trying to tell society what I need, and what I think my
children, my students, my friends, and all people I care about can
need.
(BTW: I agree perfectly with your
On 11 Nov 2013, at 01:27, spudboy...@aol.com wrote:
Ok, but this is a technique for priming the intellectual pump. If it
produces nothing good, nothing powerful, then this method would be a
complete failure.
It seems to me that this works very well, as long as the society is
below some
On 10 Nov 2013, at 08:42, LizR wrote:
On 10 November 2013 18:11, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
On 11/9/2013 6:13 PM, spudboy...@aol.com wrote:
Let me ask you Jesse do you suggest any substitute that we can turn
to for transforming world civilization to clean power? The only
On 11 November 2013 09:44, John Mikes jami...@gmail.com wrote:
Liz: it all starts with the proper use of words we use so imroperly.
Musttrynottofeelshadenfreude...
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On 11 November 2013 18:18, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
On 11/10/2013 5:59 PM, LizR wrote:
On 11 November 2013 13:53, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
On 11/10/2013 3:54 PM, Quentin Anciaux wrote:
Sure, but the thing is that *you have to*, and asking such question at
that
On 10 Nov 2013, at 05:52, meekerdb wrote:
3. What do you recommend if the US refuses to comply?
?? You mean the U.S. government refuses to act in the best interests
of it's citizens: Vote them out.
We could have meant that the US government fake to comply. Once a
government lie, and
On 11 November 2013 21:07, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote:
On 10 Nov 2013, at 08:42, LizR wrote:
On 10 November 2013 18:11, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
On 11/9/2013 6:13 PM, spudboy...@aol.com wrote:
Let me ask you Jesse do you suggest any substitute that we can turn to
On 09 Nov 2013, at 20:13, meekerdb wrote:
On 11/9/2013 1:57 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
Tegmark thinks he will survive, if the gun works sufficiently well.
if not he might degrade and eventually ... die. This makes no sense
to me. It is annoying, but we can degrade a lot, yet we can't die
Hi Hans,
Your mind has been self-limited due to your materialism.
Consider this:
Bertrand Russell said (correctly) that there are
two forms of knowledge:
a) knowledge by description (anything in language, impersonal,
third person singular, public knowledge, hearsay)
This is all that
No.
In this case I´m not insulting, just gently defending myself, since I´m a
Warmism infidel, I used to be a dangerous smoker , so may I have to pay for
it with my life if the next wave of human rights advocates take over.
And, I have to confess, I fart from time to time and no doubt this will
On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 12:04 AM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
On 11/10/2013 2:19 PM, Telmo Menezes wrote:
On Sun, Nov 10, 2013 at 10:05 PM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
On 11/10/2013 12:29 PM, Telmo Menezes wrote:
As I said before, I am agnostic on this issue for the
The effects of global warming are visible in quite a few places around the
world now. Glaciers have retreated worldwide, and the Arctic sea ice is
getting thinner and not extending so far. Measurements indicate average
temperatures have risen, and there are of course increased levels of
2013/11/11 meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net
On 11/10/2013 5:59 PM, LizR wrote:
On 11 November 2013 13:53, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
On 11/10/2013 3:54 PM, Quentin Anciaux wrote:
Sure, but the thing is that *you have to*, and asking such question at
that stage is very likely...
Oops I meant OR a googol years, of course.
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On 11 November 2013 22:47, Quentin Anciaux allco...@gmail.com wrote:
2013/11/11 meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net
On 11/10/2013 5:59 PM, LizR wrote:
On 11 November 2013 13:53, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
On 11/10/2013 3:54 PM, Quentin Anciaux wrote:
Sure, but the thing is that
On 10 Nov 2013, at 19:31, meekerdb wrote:
On 11/9/2013 11:37 PM, LizR wrote:
On 10 November 2013 08:13, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
On 11/9/2013 1:57 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
Tegmark thinks he will survive, if the gun works sufficiently
well. if not he might degrade and eventually
Watch out the black helicopters are coming for you
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No.
In this case I´m not
I will reject them with a pack of snuff and a fan. They will run towards
their politicians crying for their human rights
2013/11/11 Chris de Morsella cdemorse...@yahoo.com
Watch out the black helicopters are coming for you
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A Grand Council of Truth? And, you already know where I am going with this. One
night, while dining at a restaurant, a good one, the High Reasoner, meets with
an old friend to discuss the new FIFA rules issued for the World Cup. The
friend slides over a closed sports magazine. Have a look at
Ah, but Brents' point is that smoking and cancer are proven fact. However, at
the time, Troifim Lysenko's views on biology were proven. So were the
Eugenicists that lead directly to Dachau. Almost 100% concurred (physicians,
anthropologists, geneticists, biologists) on this fact.
What's a
On 11/11/2013 12:11 AM, LizR wrote:
On 11 November 2013 18:18, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net mailto:meeke...@verizon.net
wrote:
On 11/10/2013 5:59 PM, LizR wrote:
On 11 November 2013 13:53, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net
mailto:meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
On 11/10/2013
You are making this too complicated. We have living examples every year when
the power drops due to too, hot, too cold. Let's use Paris where this has
occurred over the last 10 years at least twice. The heat comes in from North
Africa, a blocking high happens over northern Europe, and the heat
On 11/11/2013 12:13 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 10 Nov 2013, at 05:52, meekerdb wrote:
3. What do you recommend if the US refuses to comply?
?? You mean the U.S. government refuses to act in the best interests of it's citizens:
Vote them out.
We could have meant that the US government
On 11/11/2013 12:15 AM, LizR wrote:
On 11 November 2013 21:07, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be mailto:marc...@ulb.ac.be
wrote:
On 10 Nov 2013, at 08:42, LizR wrote:
On 10 November 2013 18:11, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net
mailto:meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
On 11/9/2013
2013/11/11 meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net
On 11/11/2013 12:11 AM, LizR wrote:
On 11 November 2013 18:18, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
On 11/10/2013 5:59 PM, LizR wrote:
On 11 November 2013 13:53, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
On 11/10/2013 3:54 PM, Quentin Anciaux
On 11/11/2013 1:28 AM, Telmo Menezes wrote:
I didn't say I didn't feel like it or that I was unwilling to do it. I
said I believed it would not be possible, with a reasonable amount of
effort, to have an informed opinion. Are you a climatologist? If not,
you seem to believe otherwise beacuse you
This is true, Professor Marchal, but more directly, what if they tell Brent, as
US Director of the Climatological Remediation Bureau, Stop telling is what to
do. You are already rich and all we want to do is catch up. It's not fair that
you have so much, while our people struggle. Why don't
On 11/11/2013 1:47 AM, LizR wrote:
Obviously they could all be politically motivated or in the pay of mysterious socialist
organisations, and it's always possible that their modelling is wildly inaccurate, but
unless someone is actually making up the data and the measurements then /something/
On 11/11/2013 1:47 AM, Quentin Anciaux wrote:
Sure, but if I live infinitely long I will have almost all my experiences
older than
75. So when I note that I'm not that old and that seems improbable,
The thing is as I said is that you have to be *first* 75 before being older...
2013/11/11 meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net
On 11/11/2013 1:47 AM, Quentin Anciaux wrote:
Sure, but if I live infinitely long I will have almost all my
experiences older than 75. So when I note that I'm not that old and that
seems improbable,
The thing is as I said is that you have to be
Ah the apocalyptic mentality. Apocalypticists are like nationalists.
The laters think that they were born in the best possible country by pure
chance. The apocalypticists, also by pure chance, think that they are in a
pivotal moment on history where some catastrophe or something wonderful
will
On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 7:55 PM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
On 11/11/2013 1:28 AM, Telmo Menezes wrote:
I didn't say I didn't feel like it or that I was unwilling to do it. I
said I believed it would not be possible, with a reasonable amount of
effort, to have an informed opinion.
On 11/11/2013 10:13 AM, spudboy...@aol.com wrote:
Ah, but Brents' point is that smoking and cancer are proven fact. However, at the time,
Troifim Lysenko's views on biology were proven.
?? To nobody outside the Soviet Union - and only to a few there.
So were the Eugenicists that lead
On 11/11/2013 10:42 AM, Quentin Anciaux wrote:
2013/11/11 meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net mailto:meeke...@verizon.net
On 11/11/2013 12:11 AM, LizR wrote:
On 11 November 2013 18:18, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net
mailto:meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
On 11/10/2013 5:59 PM,
On 11/11/2013 11:21 AM, Quentin Anciaux wrote:
You find you every day, according to you, every day should not happen, only being
10¹⁰⁰ is likely, it's just non-sense, your life is not
random sampled, yesterday happen before today and before tomorrow. That doesn't
2013/11/11 meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net
On 11/11/2013 11:21 AM, Quentin Anciaux wrote:
You find you every day, according to you, every day should not happen,
only being 10¹⁰⁰ is likely, it's just
non-sense, your life is not random sampled, yesterday happen
On 12 November 2013 09:37, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
On 11/11/2013 11:21 AM, Quentin Anciaux wrote:
You find you every day, according to you, every day should not happen,
only being 10¹⁰⁰ is likely, it's just
non-sense, your life is not random sampled,
On 12 November 2013 07:13, spudboy...@aol.com wrote:
However, at the time, Troifim Lysenko's views on biology were proven.
I didn't realise the Russian government at the time allowed his views to be
peer reviewed and independently replicated. In fact I thought they created
a climate in which
On 11/11/2013 3:39 PM, LizR wrote:
On 12 November 2013 09:37, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net mailto:meeke...@verizon.net
wrote:
On 11/11/2013 11:21 AM, Quentin Anciaux wrote:
You find you every day, according to you, every day should not happen, only
being
On 12 November 2013 13:03, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
On 11/11/2013 3:39 PM, LizR wrote:
On 12 November 2013 09:37, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
On 11/11/2013 11:21 AM, Quentin Anciaux wrote:
You find you every day, according to you, every day should not happen,
only
Actually, if you were Billy Pilgrim, you would know immediately you fell
into the chronosyncinastic infundibulum (sp?) whether you were quantum
immortal or not, because the chances would be infinitesimal of ending up in
the first N years of your life, where N is *any* finite value. In fact
Every science whose conclusions have effects in politics has a high risk of
being manipulated. In the URSS and here. From Anthropology to long term
Meteorology to everything in the middle. The one that does not realize that
is poor fool who does not know how the world works and has replaced with
On 11/11/2013 4:29 PM, LizR wrote:
On 12 November 2013 13:03, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net mailto:meeke...@verizon.net
wrote:
On 11/11/2013 3:39 PM, LizR wrote:
On 12 November 2013 09:37, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net
mailto:meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
On 11/11/2013
On 11/11/2013 4:39 PM, LizR wrote:
Actually, if you were Billy Pilgrim, you would know immediately you fell into the
chronosyncinastic infundibulum (sp?) whether you were quantum immortal or not, because
the chances would be infinitesimal of ending up in the first N years of your life, where
N
On 11/11/2013 5:04 PM, Alberto G. Corona wrote:
Every science whose conclusions have effects in politics has a high risk of being
manipulated. In the URSS and here. From Anthropology to long term Meteorology to
everything in the middle. The one that does not realize that is poor fool who does
On 12 November 2013 14:04, Alberto G. Corona agocor...@gmail.com wrote:
Every science whose conclusions have effects in politics has a high risk
of being manipulated. In the URSS and here. From Anthropology to long term
Meteorology to everything in the middle. The one that does not realize
On 12 November 2013 14:16, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
On 11/11/2013 4:39 PM, LizR wrote:
Actually, if you were Billy Pilgrim, you would know immediately you fell
into the chronosyncinastic infundibulum (sp?) whether you were quantum
immortal or not, because the chances would be
On 12 November 2013 14:14, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
On 11/11/2013 4:29 PM, LizR wrote:
On 12 November 2013 13:03, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
On 11/11/2013 3:39 PM, LizR wrote:
On 12 November 2013 09:37, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
On 11/11/2013 11:21
On 11/11/2013 6:38 PM, LizR wrote:
Benjamin Button lived his life in reverse.
Oh, right, like the guy in Martin Amis' Time's Arrow (itself a rip off from An Age
by Brian Aldiss). Presumably according to QTI he's at the end of an infinite future
lifetime, or whatever? But since he's
On 12 November 2013 16:03, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
On 11/11/2013 6:38 PM, LizR wrote:
Benjamin Button lived his life in reverse.
Oh, right, like the guy in Martin Amis' Time's Arrow (itself a rip
off from An Age by Brian Aldiss). Presumably according to QTI he's at the
end
On 11 Nov 2013, at 18:49, spudboy...@aol.com wrote:
A Grand Council of Truth?
Certainly not. Honesty is not knowing truth. It is just being able
to correct oneself when being shown wrong. It is very simple, if they
were not jealousy, vanity, pride, and things like that.
And, you
On 11/11/2013 7:35 PM, LizR wrote:
On 12 November 2013 16:03, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net mailto:meeke...@verizon.net
wrote:
On 11/11/2013 6:38 PM, LizR wrote:
Benjamin Button lived his life in reverse.
Oh, right, like the guy in Martin Amis' Time's Arrow (itself a rip
it's like when there actually are rising temperatures and rising sea levels
and rising O2 and increasingly wild weather and ice melting all over the
world, you stop and say, oh hang on, maybe Fourier had a point after all
when he worked out the Greenhouse effect in 1824. Rather than just putting
On 11 Nov 2013, at 19:34, meekerdb wrote:
On 11/11/2013 12:13 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 10 Nov 2013, at 05:52, meekerdb wrote:
3. What do you recommend if the US refuses to comply?
?? You mean the U.S. government refuses to act in the best
interests of it's citizens: Vote them out.
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it's like when there actually are rising temperatures and rising sea
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On 11 Nov 2013, at 18:49, spudboy...@aol.com wrote:
A
On 12 November 2013 17:47, Chris de Morsella cdemorse...@yahoo.com wrote:
Morpheus: This is your last chance. After this, there is no turning back.
You take the blue pill - the story ends, you wake up in your bed and
believe whatever you want to believe. You take the red pill - you stay in
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