Re: Why is there something rather than nothing? From quantum theory to dialectics?

2014-10-26 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 24 Oct 2014, at 19:35, Peter Sas wrote: Hi Brent, On my account, beings (i.e. all things that are) lack intrinsic qualities because they are defined through their differences from each other. I guess you love category theory, which is mathematics based on that idea. It is also a

Re: Are We Really Conscious? (NYT Article today)

2014-10-26 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 25 Oct 2014, at 20:54, David Nyman wrote: On 21 October 2014 17:58, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote: On 20 Oct 2014, at 00:56, David Nyman wrote: On 19 October 2014 17:48, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote: On 19 Oct 2014, at 15:26, David Nyman wrote: On 19 October 2014

Re: MGA revisited paper + supervenience

2014-10-26 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 24 Oct 2014, at 18:58, John Clark wrote: On Thu, Oct 23, 2014 at 7:10 PM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote: They are non-computable by a Turing machine - which is already assumed to have unlimited tape and time. It is likely that in the real world almost all integers are not

Re: MGA revisited paper + supervenience

2014-10-26 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 24 Oct 2014, at 19:13, John Clark wrote: On Fri, Oct 24, 2014 at 12:35 PM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote: Like Quentin explained to you more than once, your reference problem, if it was a valid argument against the FPI, would be valid also about Everett QM, Like I

Re: Why is there something rather than nothing? From quantum theory to dialectics?

2014-10-26 Thread spudboy100 via Everything List
And now in physics we have this- http://stardrive.org/stardrive/index.php/news2/science/14152-when-parallel-worlds-collide-quantum-mechanics-is-born MWI worlds interact -Original Message- From: Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be To: everything-list everything-list@googlegroups.com

Re: MGA revisited paper + supervenience

2014-10-26 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 24 Oct 2014, at 22:02, John Clark wrote: On Fri, Oct 24, 2014 at 12:35 PM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote: I believe it's you who has not integrated the consequences of consciousness not having a location. So it is meaningless to ask what city will you be in?, all that can

Re: Do today's philosophers even think about the existence of God anymore?

2014-10-26 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 24 Oct 2014, at 19:16, meekerdb wrote: On 10/24/2014 8:31 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 09 Oct 2014, at 17:17, Jason Resch wrote: On Wed, Oct 8, 2014 at 9:30 PM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote: On 10/8/2014 5:07 PM, Jason Resch wrote: On Wed, Oct 8, 2014 at 2:50 PM, meekerdb

Re: CTM and the UDA (again!)

2014-10-26 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 24 Oct 2014, at 19:35, meekerdb wrote: On 10/24/2014 9:04 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: Hi Jesse, Sorry for replying late. On 27 Jul 2014, at 18:27, Jesse Mazer wrote: On Sun, Jul 27, 2014 at 10:46 AM, David Nyman da...@davidnyman.com wrote: On 23 July 2014 17:49, Jesse Mazer

Re: Why is there something rather than nothing? From quantum theory to dialectics?

2014-10-26 Thread Peter Sas
Hi Brent, Thanks for your comments, which are very useful, even if the more technical comments are beyond me (I have to study up on that). Thanks for the tip about category theory, I vaguely heard about it... I know it is a rival to set theory when it comes to founding math (insofar that is

Re: MGA revisited paper + supervenience

2014-10-26 Thread John Clark
On Sat, Oct 25, 2014 at 11:39 PM, Russell Standish li...@hpcoders.com.au wrote: Yes, if you used a arbitrarily large number of electrons you could get a arbitrarily large number of digits, and you could do the same thing with a arbitrarily large number of dice. But if physics works by Real

Re: MGA revisited paper + supervenience

2014-10-26 Thread John Clark
On Sun, Oct 26, 2014 at 11:43 AM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote: Like I explained to you more than once, Everett was interested in predictions but you are interested in consciousness, That is not relevant for the point you made. Like hell it isn't! Everett was talking about

Re: MGA revisited paper + supervenience

2014-10-26 Thread Quentin Anciaux
2014-10-26 18:58 GMT+01:00 John Clark johnkcl...@gmail.com: On Sun, Oct 26, 2014 at 11:43 AM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote: Like I explained to you more than once, Everett was interested in predictions but you are interested in consciousness, That is not relevant for the point

Re: MGA revisited paper + supervenience

2014-10-26 Thread Quentin Anciaux
Just go reread the thread Re: For John Clark october 2013... or read the last 5 years of John Clark Bullshit... for someone who don't give a damn about comp, that someone spent years of his own life answering bullshit about it... (but like he said... who's he ? you ? the great spaghetti monster

Re: Why is there something rather than nothing? From quantum theory to dialectics?

2014-10-26 Thread spudboy100 via Everything List
Yeah Bruce, Things could be much different then what Krauss conceives of today. Why not a closed timelike curve within an open universe, or an open universe within a CTC?? I always ask myself, how this can benefit our species? If its just a fact that is too big and indifferent to our

Re: The Span of Infinity

2014-10-26 Thread John Mikes
Brent, these guys are SO smart! They even knew how to convert infinity into a definitely lucrative career with awards and stuff. You know I am a layman - even forgot the 'stuff' of my Ph.D. and D.Sc. and am proudly agnostic. Of 'infinity' I lately wrote: I accept the adjective (and adverb?)

Re: The Span of Infinity

2014-10-26 Thread LizR
On 26 October 2014 14:00, spudboy100 via Everything List everything-list@googlegroups.com wrote: Sent from AOL Mobile Mail Brent, I am quite familiar with Eric Steinhardt Paterson University, NJ. He deals philosophically as a philosopher does, with the idea of immortality, and identity.

Con artist petition

2014-10-26 Thread LizR
This one's UK specific (though I signed from NZ). The USA could do with one too IMHO. http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/70539 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Everything List group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails

Re: Why is there something rather than nothing? From quantum theory to dialectics?

2014-10-26 Thread LizR
Mind you as some people like to point out, we know GR is wrong... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Everything List group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.

Re: Why is there something rather than nothing? From quantum theory to dialectics?

2014-10-26 Thread John Clark
On Fri, Oct 24, 2014 at 7:12 PM, Bruce Kellett the claims about the zero net energy of the universe made by people such as Hawking and Krauss in popular presentations are wrong. The interesting question is why undoubtedly clever people such as Krauss and Hawking would make such fallacious

Re: Why is there something rather than nothing? From quantum theory to dialectics?

2014-10-26 Thread John Clark
On Sun, Oct 26, 2014 at 1:35 AM, Bruce Kellett he [Krauss] appears to have overlooked the simple fact that in a closed universe, light cannot go right round and back to the starting point before the universe re-contracts to zero size. You appear to have overlooked the simple fact that in a

Re: The Span of Infinity

2014-10-26 Thread spudboy100 via Everything List
Sent from AOL Mobile Mail ! Liz, that is the $64,000 question, what value is knowledge? With Steinhart, I am sure he knew well about MW I and Hugh Everett's theory. The philosopher who decades ago, I came up with what is called modal reasoning, is the guy who actually came up with this

Re: Con artist petition

2014-10-26 Thread Kim Jones
On 27 Oct 2014, at 9:30 am, LizR lizj...@gmail.com wrote: This one's UK specific (though I signed from NZ). The USA could do with one too IMHO. http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/70539 It asks for your street address. NEVER sign anything over the Net that asks for your

Re: Why is there something rather than nothing? From quantum theory to dialectics?

2014-10-26 Thread spudboy100 via Everything List
Sent from AOL Mobile Mail Since when is general relativity, wrong? What news did I miss? -Original Message- From: LizR lizj...@gmail.com To: everything-list everything-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Sun, Oct 26, 2014 05:32 PM Subject: Re: Why is there something rather than nothing? From

Re: Why is there something rather than nothing? From quantum theory to dialectics?

2014-10-26 Thread spudboy100 via Everything List
Sent from AOL Mobile Mail Pure serious great from a theoretical physicist point of view until their series get disapproved by improved equipment. So, vast, and improved sky survey, might prove or disprove countless theories. All of the series and interpretations of theoretical physicist

Re: Con artist petition

2014-10-26 Thread LizR
Hm. Sorry about that. You can always make one up. On 27 October 2014 15:09, Kim Jones kimjo...@ozemail.com.au wrote: On 27 Oct 2014, at 9:30 am, LizR lizj...@gmail.com wrote: This one's UK specific (though I signed from NZ). The USA could do with one too IMHO.

Re: Why is there something rather than nothing? From quantum theory to dialectics?

2014-10-26 Thread John Clark
On Sun, Oct 26, 2014 Bruce Kellett bhkell...@optusnet.com.au wrote: If there is more that a very small amount of dark energy, then a beam of light can never get right round the universe (the universe does not re-contract in that case OK. it expands for ever even though closed). So you can

Re: Con artist petition

2014-10-26 Thread meekerdb
On 10/26/2014 3:30 PM, LizR wrote: This one's UK specific (though I signed from NZ). The USA could do with one too IMHO. http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/70539 Actually most states in the U.S. do have laws which define fraud so as to include such activities. But the result is just