Re: Interesting lady; Susan Schneider

2019-10-30 Thread spudboy100 via Everything List
Ok thanks! -Original Message- From: Alan Grayson To: Everything List Sent: Wed, Oct 30, 2019 8:53 pm Subject: Re: Interesting lady; Susan Schneider On Wednesday, October 30, 2019 at 6:42:09 PM UTC-6, spudb...@aol.com wrote: Lets cut to the chase. Do you, or do you feel Schneider

Re: Interesting lady; Susan Schneider

2019-10-30 Thread Alan Grayson
On Wednesday, October 30, 2019 at 6:42:09 PM UTC-6, spudb...@aol.com wrote: > > > Lets cut to the chase. Do you, or do you feel Schneider (without knowing) > believes that a subject's mind, is transferable, duplicatable, transferable > to a diff substrate? Hey, its Halloween! > I have no

Re: Superposition Misinterpreted

2019-10-30 Thread Alan Grayson
On Wednesday, October 30, 2019 at 4:11:43 PM UTC-6, scerir wrote: > > I would revise my interpretation this way; the electron, or whatever, > behaves as a wave when no information exists to distinguish which-way, and > that wave goes through both slits producing interference. When such >

Re: Interesting lady; Susan Schneider

2019-10-30 Thread spudboy100 via Everything List
Lets cut to the chase. Do you, or do you feel Schneider (without knowing) believes that a subject's mind, is transferable, duplicatable, transferable to a diff substrate?  Hey, its Halloween!  -Original Message- From: Alan Grayson To: Everything List Sent: Wed, Oct 30, 2019 6:01 am

Re: Interesting lady; Susan Schneider

2019-10-30 Thread Philip Thrift
On Wednesday, October 30, 2019 at 5:45:29 PM UTC-5, stathisp wrote: > > > > On Thu, 31 Oct 2019 at 07:44, Alan Grayson > wrote: > >> >> >> On Wednesday, October 30, 2019 at 4:30:19 AM UTC-6, Philip Thrift wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> On Wednesday, October 30, 2019 at 5:01:14 AM UTC-5, Alan Grayson

Re: Interesting lady; Susan Schneider

2019-10-30 Thread Stathis Papaioannou
On Thu, 31 Oct 2019 at 07:44, Alan Grayson wrote: > > > On Wednesday, October 30, 2019 at 4:30:19 AM UTC-6, Philip Thrift wrote: >> >> >> >> On Wednesday, October 30, 2019 at 5:01:14 AM UTC-5, Alan Grayson wrote: >>> >>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Susan_Schneider >>> >> >> >> >> >> It's a

Re: Interesting lady; Susan Schneider

2019-10-30 Thread Philip Thrift
On Wednesday, October 30, 2019 at 3:44:23 PM UTC-5, Alan Grayson wrote: > > > > On Wednesday, October 30, 2019 at 4:30:19 AM UTC-6, Philip Thrift wrote: >> >> >> >> On Wednesday, October 30, 2019 at 5:01:14 AM UTC-5, Alan Grayson wrote: >>> >>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Susan_Schneider >>>

Re: Superposition Misinterpreted

2019-10-30 Thread Philip Thrift
On Wednesday, October 30, 2019 at 4:36:58 PM UTC-5, Brent wrote: > > > > On 10/30/2019 12:43 AM, Philip Thrift wrote: > > What descriptive term do you prefer? Those IR photons travel at the SoL. >> The point is that if there's information available for which-way, even if >> not observed, the

Re: Superposition Misinterpreted

2019-10-30 Thread 'scerir' via Everything List
I would revise my interpretation this way; the electron, or whatever, behaves as a wave when no information exists to distinguish which-way, and that wave goes through both slits producing interference. When such information exists, even if it isn't used or measured, the interference ceases to

Re: Galileo!

2019-10-30 Thread 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List
On 10/30/2019 3:42 AM, John Clark wrote: On Wed, Oct 30, 2019 at 5:40 AM Bruno Marchal > wrote: >> There is one why question religion can not answer and claims it would be wicked to even ask: Why is a religious answer better than no answer at

Re: Is idealism fundamentally unthinkable ?

2019-10-30 Thread 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List
On 10/30/2019 2:46 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 29 Oct 2019, at 19:01, 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List wrote: On 10/29/2019 4:19 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: Obviously. But my point is that if 2 does not make sense, 2 electrons does not make sense either, and the Big Bang is no more

Re: Galileo!

2019-10-30 Thread 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List
On 10/30/2019 2:40 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 29 Oct 2019, at 21:24, John Clark > wrote: On Tue, Oct 29, 2019 at 1:50 PM 'Brent Meeker' > wrote: > /Religion starts by telling us "why". / There is one why

Re: Superposition Misinterpreted

2019-10-30 Thread 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List
On 10/30/2019 12:43 AM, Philip Thrift wrote: What descriptive term do you prefer? Those IR photons travel at the SoL. The point is that if there's information available for which-way, even if not observed, the interference is destroyed. AG What does "available" mean?  The

Re: Superposition Misinterpreted

2019-10-30 Thread Alan Grayson
On Tuesday, October 29, 2019 at 5:53:10 PM UTC-6, Alan Grayson wrote: > > > On Tuesday, October 29, 2019 at 5:18:45 PM UTC-6, Brent wrote: >> >> >> On 10/29/2019 3:48 PM, Alan Grayson wrote: >> >> >> On Tuesday, October 29, 2019 at 1:55:17 PM UTC-6, Brent wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> On 10/29/2019

Re: Interesting lady; Susan Schneider

2019-10-30 Thread Alan Grayson
On Wednesday, October 30, 2019 at 4:30:19 AM UTC-6, Philip Thrift wrote: > > > > On Wednesday, October 30, 2019 at 5:01:14 AM UTC-5, Alan Grayson wrote: >> >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Susan_Schneider >> > > > > > It's a common AI view, that the program (programming) of consciousness >

Re: SpongeBob SpaceTime

2019-10-30 Thread Philip Thrift
On Tuesday, October 29, 2019 at 5:19:24 AM UTC-5, Philip Thrift wrote: > > > *A Fractal Menger Sponge Space-Time Proposal to Reconcile Measurements and > Theoretical Predictions of Cosmic Dark Energy* > >

Re: Galileo!

2019-10-30 Thread John Clark
On Wed, Oct 30, 2019 at 5:40 AM Bruno Marchal wrote: >> There is one why question religion can not answer and claims it would be >> wicked to even ask: Why is a religious answer better than no answer at all? > > > *> If a religion answers, with an air of claiming it is a definitive > answer;

Re: Interesting lady; Susan Schneider

2019-10-30 Thread Philip Thrift
On Wednesday, October 30, 2019 at 5:01:14 AM UTC-5, Alan Grayson wrote: > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Susan_Schneider > It's a common AI view, that the program (programming) of consciousness (like what's running in your brain right now) is substrate independent. @philipthrift -- You

Interesting lady; Susan Schneider

2019-10-30 Thread Alan Grayson
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Re: Einstein's field equations

2019-10-30 Thread Bruno Marchal
> On 29 Oct 2019, at 16:43, Lawrence Crowell > wrote: > > On Tuesday, October 29, 2019 at 2:31:14 AM UTC-6, Philip Thrift wrote: > > > On Monday, October 28, 2019 at 7:21:40 PM UTC-5, Lawrence Crowell wrote: > On Monday, October 28, 2019 at 8:24:39 AM UTC-6, John Clark wrote: > On Sun, Oct

Re: Is idealism fundamentally unthinkable ?

2019-10-30 Thread Bruno Marchal
> On 29 Oct 2019, at 19:01, 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List > wrote: > > > > On 10/29/2019 4:19 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: >> Obviously. But my point is that if 2 does not make sense, 2 electrons does >> not make sense either, and the Big Bang is no more something that we can >> today

Re: Galileo!

2019-10-30 Thread Bruno Marchal
> On 29 Oct 2019, at 21:24, John Clark wrote: > > On Tue, Oct 29, 2019 at 1:50 PM 'Brent Meeker' > mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com>> > wrote: > > > Religion starts by telling us "why". > > There is one why question religion can not answer and claims it would be > wicked to even

Re: Galileo!

2019-10-30 Thread Philip Thrift
On Wednesday, October 30, 2019 at 4:27:48 AM UTC-5, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > > On 29 Oct 2019, at 18:50, 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List > > The sciences do not try to explain, they hardly even try to interpret, > they mainly make models. By a model is meant a mathematical construct >

Re: Galileo!

2019-10-30 Thread Bruno Marchal
> On 29 Oct 2019, at 18:50, 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List > wrote: > > > > On 10/29/2019 3:36 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: >> >>> On 28 Oct 2019, at 19:36, 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List >>> >> > wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> On 10/28/2019 4:34 AM,

Re: Superposition Misinterpreted

2019-10-30 Thread Bruno Marchal
> On 29 Oct 2019, at 11:58, Bruce Kellett wrote: > > On Tue, Oct 29, 2019 at 9:50 PM Bruno Marchal > wrote: > On 28 Oct 2019, at 21:17, Alan Grayson > wrote: >> Keep in mind that the wave I have been referring to, is a probability wave,

Re: Superposition Misinterpreted

2019-10-30 Thread Philip Thrift
On Tuesday, October 29, 2019 at 6:18:45 PM UTC-5, Brent wrote: > > > > On 10/29/2019 3:48 PM, Alan Grayson wrote: > > > > On Tuesday, October 29, 2019 at 1:55:17 PM UTC-6, Brent wrote: >> >> >> >> On 10/29/2019 12:46 PM, Alan Grayson wrote: >> >> >> >> On Tuesday, October 29, 2019 at 1:25:43 PM