Re: Why Does Anything Exist?

2021-03-09 Thread 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List
On 3/9/2021 3:52 PM, Tomas Pales wrote: On Wednesday, March 10, 2021 at 12:29:07 AM UTC+1 Brent wrote: On 3/9/2021 3:03 PM, Tomas Pales wrote: The law of identity determines what can possibly exist, namely that which is identical to itself. But what is the difference

Re: Parallel Worlds Probably Exist. Here’s Why

2021-03-09 Thread spudboy100 via Everything List
Well Bruno, for me, even a more profound concept is from astrophysics and not from Platonic/Computational physics. That being, if we ride the back of cosmic inflation, if it is indeed fact, then what is lost beyond our optical event horizon? Let us presume that the cosmos expanded since the

Re: cognitive functioning in extremists

2021-03-09 Thread spudboy100 via Everything List
On pure technology, and I mean engineering, nuclear fission has yet to fully prove itself, because of high price$ and safety, or what was Chernobyl, Fukushima, and 3Mile Island for? I am still open to improved design physics and chemistry to improve all that. For energy, this Trumpkin

Re: Why Does Anything Exist?

2021-03-09 Thread Tomas Pales
On Wednesday, March 10, 2021 at 12:29:07 AM UTC+1 Brent wrote: > > > On 3/9/2021 3:03 PM, Tomas Pales wrote: > > The law of identity determines what can possibly exist, namely that which > is identical to itself. But what is the difference between a possibly > existing object and a "really"

Re: Why Does Anything Exist?

2021-03-09 Thread spudboy100 via Everything List
I kind of side with Canadian philosopher John Leslie, as well as British astronomer, James Jeans on this question. Both Leslie and Jeans see the cosmos as a Great Thought. I formalize their conjectures as a Great Program. One may ask, running on what? On Tuesday, March 9, 2021 Jason Resch

Re: Why Does Anything Exist?

2021-03-09 Thread 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List
On 3/9/2021 3:03 PM, Tomas Pales wrote: The law of identity determines what can possibly exist, namely that which is identical to itself. But what is the difference between a possibly existing object and a "really" existing object? I see no difference, and hence all possible objects exist,

Re: Why Does Anything Exist?

2021-03-09 Thread 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List
On 3/9/2021 2:55 PM, Bruce Kellett wrote: On Wed, Mar 10, 2021 at 9:46 AM 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List > wrote: On 3/9/2021 1:20 PM, John Clark wrote: On Tue, Mar 9, 2021 at 1:57 AM Kim Jones mailto:kimjo...@ozemail.com.au>> wrote:

Re: Why Does Anything Exist?

2021-03-09 Thread 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List
On 3/9/2021 2:30 PM, Philip Benjamin wrote: If nothing ever existed, nothing can exist today. “Ex nihilo, nihil fit” (Parmenides). Yeah, but what has he published recently? Brent -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To

Re: Why Does Anything Exist?

2021-03-09 Thread 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List
On 3/9/2021 2:00 PM, Bruce Kellett wrote: On Wed, Mar 10, 2021 at 6:00 AM Jason Resch > wrote: On Tue, Mar 9, 2021 at 9:41 AM Lawrence Crowell mailto:goldenfieldquaterni...@gmail.com>> wrote: Nothingness is a paradoxical thing. Does nothingness

Re: Why Does Anything Exist?

2021-03-09 Thread Tomas Pales
The law of identity determines what can possibly exist, namely that which is identical to itself. But what is the difference between a possibly existing object and a "really" existing object? I see no difference, and hence all possible objects exist, necessarily. To which someone might say

Re: Why Does Anything Exist?

2021-03-09 Thread Bruce Kellett
On Wed, Mar 10, 2021 at 9:46 AM 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List < everything-list@googlegroups.com> wrote: > On 3/9/2021 1:20 PM, John Clark wrote: > > On Tue, Mar 9, 2021 at 1:57 AM Kim Jones wrote: > > *> What was there before there was nothing?* >> > > "Before" implies time and time

Re: Why Does Anything Exist?

2021-03-09 Thread 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List
On 3/9/2021 1:20 PM, John Clark wrote: On Tue, Mar 9, 2021 at 1:57 AM Kim Jones > wrote: /> What was there before there was nothing?/ "Before" implies time and time implies change; if nothing exists then nothing can change, and if nothing can change time

Re: Why Does Anything Exist?

2021-03-09 Thread Bruce Kellett
On Wed, Mar 10, 2021 at 9:21 AM Jason Resch wrote: > On Tuesday, March 9, 2021, Bruce Kellett wrote: > >> On Wed, Mar 10, 2021 at 6:00 AM Jason Resch wrote: >> >>> On Tue, Mar 9, 2021 at 9:41 AM Lawrence Crowell < >>> goldenfieldquaterni...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> Nothingness is a

RE: Why Does Anything Exist?

2021-03-09 Thread Philip Benjamin
[Brent Meeker] "https://alwaysasking.com/why-does-anything-exist/#A_Story_of_Creation; [Philip Benjamin] If nothing ever existed, nothing can exist today. "Ex nihilo, nihil fit" (Parmenides). Laws of any kind necessarily requires the existence of a conscious Law Giver. The logical question is:

Re: Why Does Anything Exist?

2021-03-09 Thread Jason Resch
On Tuesday, March 9, 2021, Bruce Kellett wrote: > On Wed, Mar 10, 2021 at 6:00 AM Jason Resch wrote: > >> On Tue, Mar 9, 2021 at 9:41 AM Lawrence Crowell < >> goldenfieldquaterni...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Nothingness is a paradoxical thing. Does nothingness exist? If so, then >>> by having

Re: Why Does Anything Exist?

2021-03-09 Thread Bruce Kellett
On Wed, Mar 10, 2021 at 6:00 AM Jason Resch wrote: > On Tue, Mar 9, 2021 at 9:41 AM Lawrence Crowell < > goldenfieldquaterni...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Nothingness is a paradoxical thing. Does nothingness exist? If so, then >> by having existential properties it is not pure nothingness. If

Re: cognitive functioning in extremists

2021-03-09 Thread spudboy100 via Everything List
Oh it didn't used to be proto-Soviet, or more properly, proto-Xi in nature because I used to vote for them incessantly during national and general elections. Surely, BLM & Antifa at the leadership level is pro-soviet in thought and deed. 

Re: Why Does Anything Exist?

2021-03-09 Thread John Clark
On Tue, Mar 9, 2021 at 2:00 PM Jason Resch wrote: *> There is a strange and paradoxical sort of identity between nothing and > everything,* > I agree. Meaning needs contrast, so a universe where everything has the flogknee property would be indistinguishable from a universe where nothing has

Re: Why Does Anything Exist?

2021-03-09 Thread John Clark
On Tue, Mar 9, 2021 at 1:57 AM Kim Jones wrote: *> What was there before there was nothing?* > "Before" implies time and time implies change; if nothing exists then nothing can change, and if nothing can change time can not exist, and if time can't exist then there is no "before". John K

Re: Parallel Worlds Probably Exist. Here’s Why

2021-03-09 Thread 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List
On 3/9/2021 5:29 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 6 Feb 2021, at 20:27, John Clark > wrote: Parallel Worlds Probably Exist. Here’s Why John K Clark My comment there: << Why to assume even one universe? We know

Re: Why Does Anything Exist?

2021-03-09 Thread Jason Resch
On Tue, Mar 9, 2021 at 12:37 PM 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List < everything-list@googlegroups.com> wrote: > > > On 3/9/2021 12:22 AM, Jason Resch wrote: > > > > On Tue, Mar 9, 2021 at 12:57 AM Kim Jones wrote: > >> What was there before there was nothing? >> > > I don't believe reality was

Re: Why Does Anything Exist?

2021-03-09 Thread Jason Resch
On Tue, Mar 9, 2021 at 9:41 AM Lawrence Crowell < goldenfieldquaterni...@gmail.com> wrote: > Nothingness is a paradoxical thing. Does nothingness exist? If so, then by > having existential properties it is not pure nothingness. If nothingness > does not exist then there must exist something. In a

Re: Why Does Anything Exist?

2021-03-09 Thread 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List
On 3/9/2021 12:22 AM, Jason Resch wrote: On Tue, Mar 9, 2021 at 12:57 AM Kim Jones > wrote: What was there before there was nothing? I don't believe reality was ever a state of absolute nothingness. Rather, there are things that exist necessarily:

Re: cognitive functioning in extremists

2021-03-09 Thread John Clark
On Mon, Mar 8, 2021 at 8:47 PM spudboy100 via Everything List < everything-list@googlegroups.com> wrote: *> I would say that if madness is a disease that causes ones to distrust > the vocalizations of the dem establishment, sure, fine. The once democratic > party looks now to be an increasingly

Re: cognitive functioning in extremists

2021-03-09 Thread John Clark
On Mon, Mar 8, 2021 at 11:52 AM Lawrence Crowell < goldenfieldquaterni...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > On Monday, March 8, 2021 at 10:05:25 AM UTC-6 johnk...@gmail.com wrote: > >> On Mon, Mar 8, 2021 at 8:32 AM Lawrence Crowell >> wrote: >> >> * > academia, is indeed mentally defective.* >> >> >> > I

Re: more books on quantum foundations

2021-03-09 Thread 'scerir' via Everything List
https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/qm/#BookPhilQM > Il 09/03/2021 16:58 'scerir' via Everything List > ha scritto: > > > > Yes, d'Espagnat (with Jammer) was one of my very best, in the 70s. But - > since then - I'm in trouble. Maybe 'Quantum' is a language, nothing more > than a

Re: more books on quantum foundations

2021-03-09 Thread 'scerir' via Everything List
Yes, d'Espagnat (with Jammer) was one of my very best, in the 70s. But - since then - I'm in trouble. Maybe 'Quantum' is a language, nothing more than a language. Efficient? > Il 09/03/2021 14:50 Bruno Marchal ha scritto: > > > > > > > On 15 Feb 2021, at 07:29,

Re: cognitive functioning in extremists

2021-03-09 Thread Lawrence Crowell
On Monday, March 8, 2021 at 7:47:15 PM UTC-6 spudb...@aol.com wrote: > I would say that if madness is a disease that causes ones to distrust the > vocalizations of the dem establishment, sure, fine. The once democratic > party looks now to be an increasingly poor imitation of the kind of setup

Re: Why Does Anything Exist?

2021-03-09 Thread Lawrence Crowell
Nothingness is a paradoxical thing. Does nothingness exist? If so, then by having existential properties it is not pure nothingness. If nothingness does not exist then there must exist something. In a sense God is the antithesis of nothingness and in a sense shares the same paradoxical issue.

Re: more books on quantum foundations

2021-03-09 Thread Bruno Marchal
> On 15 Feb 2021, at 07:29, 'scerir' via Everything List > wrote: > > I hope these links work > > https://www.amazon.it/Conceptual-Foundations-Quantum-Mechanics/dp/0198844697/ref=sr_1_1?__mk_it_IT=%C3%85M%C3%85%C5%BD%C3%95%C3%91=1=barrett+foundations=1613369653=8-1 > >

Re: Parallel Worlds Probably Exist. Here’s Why

2021-03-09 Thread Bruno Marchal
> On 6 Feb 2021, at 20:27, John Clark wrote: > > Parallel Worlds Probably Exist. Here’s Why > > > John K Clark My comment there: << Why to assume even one universe? We know since the 1930s that all models of elementary arithmetic execute

Re: Why Does Anything Exist?

2021-03-09 Thread Kim Jones
Yes. As some say around here "Everything is the inside view of Nothing". A set of appearances, as Bruno says. What numbers see - dream - whatever Kim Jones B.Mus GDTL > On 9 Mar 2021, at 7:23 pm, Jason Resch wrote: >  > > > On Tue, Mar 9, 2021 at 12:57 AM Kim Jones wrote: >> What was

Re: Why Does Anything Exist?

2021-03-09 Thread Jason Resch
On Tue, Mar 9, 2021 at 12:57 AM Kim Jones wrote: > What was there before there was nothing? > I don't believe reality was ever a state of absolute nothingness. Rather, there are things that exist necessarily: logical laws, truth, properties of numbers, etc. Some of these truths and number