Re: Superdeterminism And Sabine Hossenfelder

On 12/19/2021 6:12 PM, John Clark wrote: On Sun, Dec 19, 2021 at 9:05 PM Bruce Kellett wrote: /> The Born Rule cannot be derived from the Schrodinger equation; it has to be added as a further independent assumption. So it is not true that Many Worlds makes only one

Re: Superdeterminism And Sabine Hossenfelder

On 12/19/2021 5:22 PM, John Clark wrote: On Sun, Dec 19, 2021 at 7:59 PM Brent Meeker wrote: On 12/19/2021 5:25 AM, John Clark wrote: By contrast the Many Worlds Theory only makes one assumption, Schrodinger's Equation means what it says. So Many Worlds wins. /> It also

Re: Superdeterminism And Sabine Hossenfelder

On Mon, Dec 20, 2021 at 1:13 PM John Clark wrote: > On Sun, Dec 19, 2021 at 9:05 PM Bruce Kellett > wrote: > > *> The Born Rule cannot be derived from the Schrodinger equation; it has >> to be added as a further independent assumption. So it is not true that >> Many Worlds makes only one

Re: Superdeterminism And Sabine Hossenfelder

On Sun, Dec 19, 2021 at 9:05 PM Bruce Kellett wrote: *> The Born Rule cannot be derived from the Schrodinger equation; it has to > be added as a further independent assumption. So it is not true that Many > Worlds makes only one assumption.* > No quantum interpretation needs to derive the

Re: Superdeterminism And Sabine Hossenfelder

On Mon, Dec 20, 2021 at 12:23 PM John Clark wrote: > On Sun, Dec 19, 2021 at 7:59 PM Brent Meeker > wrote: > > On 12/19/2021 5:25 AM, John Clark wrote: >> >> By contrast the Many Worlds Theory only makes one assumption, >> Schrodinger's Equation means what it says. So Many Worlds wins. >> >> *>

Re: Superdeterminism And Sabine Hossenfelder

On Sun, Dec 19, 2021 at 7:59 PM Brent Meeker wrote: On 12/19/2021 5:25 AM, John Clark wrote: > > By contrast the Many Worlds Theory only makes one assumption, > Schrodinger's Equation means what it says. So Many Worlds wins. > > *> It also makes the assumption that the eigenvalues of a

Re: Superdeterminism And Sabine Hossenfelder

On 12/19/2021 5:25 AM, John Clark wrote: By contrast the Many Worlds Theory only makes one assumption, Schrodinger's Equation means what it says. So Many Worlds wins. It also makes the assumption that the eigenvalues of a measurement are realized probabilistically. Brent -- You received

Re: Dark Matter Update

Sounds right to me. Brent On 12/16/2021 3:37 PM, Tomas Pales wrote: If dark matter interacts only weakly with itself and with ordinary matter does it mean that it is less susceptible to quantum decoherence? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups

Re: Hossenfelder on superdeterminism

On Sun, Dec 19, 2021 at 10:25 PM 'scerir' via Everything List < everything-list@googlegroups.com> wrote: > In (7) (Brans, 1988) the density for hidden variables depends not only on > the state of the particle pair but also on the detector settings a and b. > (I'm not a fan of superdeterminism.

Re: Superdeterminism And Sabine Hossenfelder

This invokes some ideas of p-adic numbers. If Sabine is right and superdeterminism is a global law it would require a single consistent algorithm for solving p-adic problems, which are equivalent to Diophantine equations. Matiyasevich proved a variant of the Godel theorem which disproved

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Re: Superdeterminism And Sabine Hossenfelder

Yes, it's misleading for her to suggest the objections to superdeterminism are mainly about "killing free will", rather they're about the way the theory would need a strange "conspiracy" in the initial conditions of the universe to work. The idea is that if two entangled particles are sent out

Superdeterminism And Sabine Hossenfelder

Sabine Hossenfelder recently posted this video on Youtube, this is my comment: Does Superdeterminism save Quantum Mechanics? Or does it kill free will and destroy science? I strongly agree with Sabine Hossenfelder that "free will" is incoherent

Re: Hossenfelder on superdeterminism

In (7) (Brans, 1988) the density for hidden variables depends not only on the state of the particle pair but also on the detector settings a and b. (I'm not a fan of superdeterminism. Somedody pointed out that concepts like falsifiability, isolated system, repetition of an experiment, random

Re: Hossenfelder on superdeterminism

On Sun, Dec 19, 2021 at 7:59 PM 'scerir' via Everything List < everything-list@googlegroups.com> wrote: > 'Vague statements that the result obtained depends on the > measurement made are either trivial or else meaningless without a > developed quantum formalism that incorporates the requires

Re: Hossenfelder on superdeterminism

'Vague statements that the result obtained depends on the measurement made are either trivial or else meaningless without a developed quantum formalism that incorporates the requires hidden variables.' -Bruce Indeed. But somebody wrote something, in 1988.