Re: Consciousness theory slammed as "pseudoscience"

2023-09-21 Thread Dylan Distasio
I love Aaronson. I also don't see him as a signatory on that letter. I was commenting on the authors whining and winging about IIT in a publication versus just getting on with the science and publishing evidence for their theories of consciousness instead of crying about "scientific

Re: Consciousness theory slammed as "pseudoscience"

2023-09-21 Thread Brent Meeker
Scott Aaronson is far from "a bunch of highschoolers". Why I Am Not An Integrated Information Theorist (or, The Unconscious Expander) Recently, lots of people have been asking me what I think about IIT—no, not the Indian Institutes of Technology, but Integrated Information Theory, a

Re: Consciousness theory slammed as "pseudoscience"

2023-09-21 Thread John Clark
On Thu, Sep 21, 2023 at 3:00 PM Jason Resch wrote: > *By its own definitions IIT is not falsifiable, for it proclaims that a > computer program that gave identical behavior in all situations to another > conscious system, would not be conscious. But since it has identical > behavior there is no

Re: Consciousness theory slammed as "pseudoscience"

2023-09-21 Thread John Clark
On Thu, Sep 21, 2023 at 2:43 PM Dylan Distasio wrote: *> Having read that letter, I don't find it very becoming of the scientists > writing it who should know better. Regardless of what you think about > IIT and its merits or lack thereof, it results in some predictions that can > be tested* >

Re: Consciousness theory slammed as "pseudoscience"

2023-09-21 Thread Jason Resch
By its own definitions IIT is not falsifiable, for it proclaims that a computer program that gave identical behavior in all situations to another conscious system, would not be conscious. But since it has identical behavior there is no objective way to prove this assertion of IIT (that one system

Re: Consciousness theory slammed as "pseudoscience"

2023-09-21 Thread Dylan Distasio
Having read that letter, I don't find it very becoming of the scientists writing it who should know better. Regardless of what you think about IIT and its merits or lack thereof, it results in some predictions that can be tested, and while some of the work is certainly hard to carry out, it

Consciousness theory slammed as "pseudoscience"

2023-09-21 Thread John Clark
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