Gravitational wave detector LIGO is back online!

2023-05-24 Thread John Clark
And now LIGO is much more sensitive so it will be able to detect about 10 times more Black Hole mergers than it was capable of doing back in 2015 when it detected its first Black Hole collision. Gravitational wave detector LIGO is back online

Re: what chatGPT is and is not

2023-05-24 Thread John Clark
On Wed, May 24, 2023 at 1:37 AM Jason Resch wrote: *> By substituting a recording of a computation for a computation, you > replace a conscious mind with a tape recording of the prior behavior of a > conscious mind. * But you'd still need a computation to find the particular tape recording

Re: what chatGPT is and is not

2023-05-23 Thread John Clark
On Tue, May 23, 2023 at 4:30 PM Terren Suydam wrote: >> If I could instantly stop all physical processes that are going on >> inside your head for one year and then start them up again, to an >> outside objective observer you would appear to lose consciousness for one >> year, but to you your

Re: what chatGPT is and is not

2023-05-23 Thread John Clark
On Tue, May 23, 2023 Terren Suydam wrote: *> reality is fundamentally consciousness. * Then why does a simple physical molecule like *N**2**O *stop consciousness temporarily and another simple physical molecule like *CN- *do so permanently? > *> Why does some "knowledge" correspond with a

Re: what chatGPT is and is not

2023-05-23 Thread John Clark
On Tue, May 23, 2023 at 3:50 PM Terren Suydam wrote: > * > in my view, consciousness entails a continuous flow of experience.* > If I could instantly stop all physical processes that are going on inside your head for one year and then start them up again, to an outside objective observer you

Re: what chatGPT is and is not

2023-05-23 Thread John Clark
On Tue, May 23, 2023 Terren Suydam wrote: *> What was the biochemical or neural change that suddenly birthed the > feeling of pain? * It would not be difficult to make a circuit such that that whenever a specific binary sequence of zeros and ones is in a register the circuit stops doing

Embodied AI ...Robots

2023-05-23 Thread John Clark
Embodied AI ...Robots John K ClarkSee what's on my new list at Extropolis 2t3 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe

Re: what chatGPT is and is not

2023-05-23 Thread John Clark
On Mon, May 22, 2023 at 5:56 PM Terren Suydam wrote: *> Many, myself included, are captivated by the amazing capabilities of > chatGPT and other LLMs. They are, truly, incredible. Depending on your > definition of Turing Test, it passes with flying colors in many, many > contexts. It would take

Re: New laws of physics will not help us understand consciousness or how the brain works

2023-05-22 Thread John Clark
On Sun, May 21, 2023 at 9:18 PM wrote: >*I can name 3 for ya. * > *1. Roger Penrose. Oxford, right?* > Wrong. About 25 years ago Roger Penrose suggested that microtubules inside of neurons might be involved in quantum computing (he didn't say how) which helped to tell the neuron when to fire,

Re: New laws of physics will not help us understand consciousness or how the brain works

2023-05-21 Thread John Clark
On Sat, May 20, 2023 at 9:25 PM wrote: *> Carroll is drawing a magical imaginary line across physical, material, > reality. * > > *He is doing Cartesian Dualism starting with pure physics. * > *Rene' DesCarte, Two kind of matter. * > What on earth are you talking about?! Carroll specifically

OpenAI launches free ChatGPT app for iOS

2023-05-19 Thread John Clark
I've already downloaded it to my iPhone in a few seconds and it couldn't be easier to use and is as mind-bogglingly smart as ever. OpenAI launches free ChatGPT app for iOS John K ClarkSee what's on my new list at

Sean Carroll on the Multiverse

2023-05-19 Thread John Clark
If you don't read his excellent book "Something Deeply Hidden" you should at least watch Sean Carroll's lecture on the Many Worlds interpretation, it's really really good. Sean Carroll on the Multiverse Version Quantum of Mechanics John K Clark --

Re: More evidence that environmentalists are NOT serious people

2023-05-18 Thread John Clark
ropolis> 6dq 7tt > > On Wed, May 17, 2023 at 7:32 AM John Clark wrote: > >> Greta Thunberg Arrested Twice While Protesting AGAINST Wind Turbines In >> Europe >> <https://stopthesethings.com/2023/03/08/believe-it-or-not-greta-thunberg-arrested-while-protes

Re: More evidence that environmentalists are NOT serious people

2023-05-18 Thread John Clark
On Thu, May 18, 2023 at 11:48 AM Brent Meeker wrote: *I'm an advocate of fission reactor power, especially thorium molten salt > reactors along with solar and wind power. * Me too. * > As far as I know Greta Thunberg is a student, not an actress.* And a self-righteous little twit. John K

New laws of physics will not help us understand consciousness or how the brain works

2023-05-18 Thread John Clark
In this video Sean Carroll makes a very strong case that new laws of physics will not help us understand consciousness or how the brain works: Quantum Mechanics Limits our knowledge of Universe John K ClarkSee what's on my new list at

More evidence that environmentalists are NOT serious people

2023-05-17 Thread John Clark
Greta Thunberg Arrested Twice While Protesting AGAINST Wind Turbines In Europe Greta Thunberg Protests Wind Farm In Wyoming

The first time the authors of GPT-4 realize something unexpected was going on

2023-05-16 Thread John Clark
Today's New York Times describes the first time the authors of GPT-4 realiz ed that they didn't fully understand how the program that they themselves had written worked. They asked a very early unreleased version of GPT-4 to solve a puzzle that they were almost sure it would not be able to solve

Re: NYTimes.com: Will a Chatbot Write the Next ‘Succession’?

2023-05-15 Thread John Clark
On Mon, May 15, 2023 at 1:24 PM smitra wrote: > > *GPT may struggle doing the problem in that much simpler way even if you > walk it through most of thedetails of how to do it,* Instead of theorizing about what might happen, why not interrogate GPT-4 for yourself and see? John K ClarkSee

Re: Physicists create virtual nonabelions for fault-tolerant quantum computers Inbox

2023-05-15 Thread John Clark
s true, you wouldn't need quantum computers, the conventional variety would work just as well. I could be wrong but I don't expect that to happen. John K ClarkSee what's on my new list at Extropolis <https://groups.google.com/g/extropolis> yum w3x > > > > >> >>

Re: Physicists create virtual nonabelions for fault-tolerant quantum computers Inbox

2023-05-13 Thread John Clark
t as far as making a topological quantum computer is concerned that distinction is not very important. John K ClarkSee what's on my new list at Extropolis <https://groups.google.com/g/extropolis> naa > > On Wednesday, May 10, 2023 at 1:58:03 PM UTC-5 John Clark wrote: > >&

Re: conversation with GPT-4 on black hole QM

2023-05-12 Thread John Clark
On Thu, May 11, 2023 at 6:33 PM Lawrence Crowell < goldenfieldquaterni...@gmail.com> wrote: > I* have found 2 mistakes it* [GPT-4] *has made. It has caught me on a few > errors as well.* > To me that sounds like very impressive performance. If you were working with a human colleague who did the

Personalized RNA neoantigen vaccines stimulate T cells in pancreatic cancer

2023-05-11 Thread John Clark
Personalized RNA neoantigen vaccines stimulate T cells in pancreatic cancer John K Clark -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving

NYTimes.com: Pancreatic Cancer Vaccine Shows Promise in Small Trial

2023-05-11 Thread John Clark
Check out this article from The New York Times. Because I'm a subscriber, you can read it through this gift link without a subscription. Pancreatic Cancer Vaccine Shows Promise in Small Trial Using mRNA tailored to each patient’s tumor, the vaccine may have staved off the return of one of the

Physicists create virtual nonabelions for fault-tolerant quantum computers Inbox

2023-05-10 Thread John Clark
As if all the news about GPT-4 were not enough, this is an article from the journal Nature that that went online yesterday: Physicists create virtual nonabelions for fault-tolerant quantum computers

Re: conversation with GPT-4 on black hole QM

2023-05-09 Thread John Clark
On Mon, May 8, 2023 at 8:10 PM Lawrence Crowell < goldenfieldquaterni...@gmail.com> wrote: > I spent some time on GPT-4 this afternoon. I wrote about a topic that was > leading to an inference I had made. Before I wrote on that inference GPT > made the same inference. Wow! Would I be correct in

​Let's work this out in a step by step way to be sure we have the right answer

2023-05-08 Thread John Clark
Despite GPT's obvious intelligence it can occasionally give stupid boneheaded responses that even a child wouldn't make, but one user has found that the number of times it makes these brain farts can be reduced by more than half by simply writing the following sentence after you give it your

Re: Type II/Type III Civilization Search Finds Nothing

2023-05-07 Thread John Clark
On Sat, May 6, 2023 at 10:16 PM wrote: *> Why Have We Never Detected Aliens? Scientist Proposes a New Explanation > (msn.com) >

Re: Type II/Type III Civilization Search Finds Nothing

2023-05-07 Thread John Clark
On Sat, May 6, 2023 at 6:27 PM Brent Meeker wrote: >> I can think of 3 possibilities: >> 1) They don't need such constructs because intelligent life, other than >> that which exists on earth, never existed in the observable universe. >> 2) They don't need such constructs because intelligent life

Re: Type II/Type III Civilization Search Finds Nothing

2023-05-06 Thread John Clark
On Fri, May 5, 2023 at 11:02 PM Tomasz Rola wrote: > > * > Dyson sphere is purely theoretical concept. Was there even a small > model built and tried? Something like ten meters in diameter, for example?* Huh? Have objects 10 m in diameter or larger ever been heated internally? Yes *> Was

Re: conversation with GPT-4 on black hole QM

2023-05-06 Thread John Clark
On Fri, May 5, 2023 at 8:03 PM Lawrence Crowell < goldenfieldquaterni...@gmail.com> wrote: *> I had this conservation with GPT-4 on aspects of black hole quantum > mechanics. I kept it largely non-mathematical. This is interesting, and it > suggests a level of processing that is complex. An AI

GPT-4 hits the IQ ceiling (Theory of Mind, Mensa, Asimov)

2023-05-05 Thread John Clark
I know this won't stop some people from continuing to whistle past the graveyard. but this is one of the most interesting videos I've watched in a long time. The gist of it is that GPT-4 is getting so smart that it's very difficult to find human beings who are smart enough to write IQ test

Schrödinger cat states of a 16-microgram mechanical oscillator

2023-05-05 Thread John Clark
The April 20, 2023 issue of the journal Science reports that researchers have been able to put 10^17 atoms with a mass of 1.62*10^-8 kilograms (about the mass of a grain of sand ) into a Schrodinger Cat State. It is by far the most massive object ever put into that bizarre state. I found it

Why Tucker Carlson was fired

2023-05-03 Thread John Clark
The New York Times just published this which they say caused Tucker Carlson to be fired from Fox News, it was an exhibit in the libel suit against Fox that was out settled out of court for $787.5 million: EXHIBIT 276 *Tucker Carlson* January 7, 2021 — 04:18:04 PM UTC *"A couple of weeks ago, I

Re: Type II/Type III Civilization Search Finds Nothing

2023-05-02 Thread John Clark
On Mon, May 1, 2023 at 8:30 PM Tomasz Rola wrote: > >> The radiant electromagnetic energy output of a star with a Dyson >> >> Sphere around it would be exactly the same as it was before the Dyson >> >> Sphere was built, the only difference is the energy would have been >> put to >> >> work and

Re: NYTimes.com: Will a Chatbot Write the Next ‘Succession’?

2023-04-29 Thread John Clark
On Sat, Apr 29, 2023 at 8:29 PM Jesse Mazer wrote: *> The first example they give is the question 'Jack and Jill are sitting > side by side. The person next to Jack is angry. The person next to Jill is > happy. Who is happy, Jack or Jill?' Both GPT3 and GPT4 think Jill is happy.* > A few years

Re: NYTimes.com: Will a Chatbot Write the Next ‘Succession’?

2023-04-29 Thread John Clark
On Sat, Apr 29, 2023 at 7:06 PM Jason Resch wrote: *> The extropy chat list has been extensively debating the question of GPTs > potential for understanding and consciousness the past several weeks. I'd > invite you to check it out if that subject interests anyone here.* > I can't. I had been

Re: NYTimes.com: Will a Chatbot Write the Next ‘Succession’?

2023-04-29 Thread John Clark
On Sat, Apr 29, 2023 at 4:28 PM smitra wrote: https://nyti.ms/3VlIBDo#permid=124757243 You say that GPT4 doesn't understand what it is saying, but did you read my post about what happened when Scott Aaronson gave his final exam on Quantum Computers to GPT4? The computer sure acted as if it

Re: NYTimes.com: China Says Chatbots Must Toe the Party Line

2023-04-29 Thread John Clark
On Sat, Apr 29, 2023 at 2:48 PM wrote: *>Xi is basing his politics on Gorbachev and the Soviets. He wants the > party to avoid destruction by crushing the middle class internally,* > OK. > * > and yes, killing America. Not economically, but with nuclear warheads > and a continental invasion,*

NYTimes.com: Will a Chatbot Write the Next ‘Succession’?

2023-04-29 Thread John Clark
You can read this article from The New York Times without a subscription. Tap the link to read it, and enjoy quality independent journalism Will a Chatbot Write the Next ‘Succession’? As labor contract negotiations heat up in Hollywood, unions representing writers and actors seek limits on

Re: Moore's law for Everything

2023-04-29 Thread John Clark
On Fri, Apr 28, 2023 at 9:06 PM wrote: *> What we seem to need is a Singularity where we get breakthroughs in > materials science, and medicine. I will guess that only when LMM's and > other devices merge with low-error, high capacity quantum computers is when > this will happen.* Practical

Re: NYTimes.com: China Says Chatbots Must Toe the Party Line

2023-04-29 Thread John Clark
On Fri, Apr 28, 2023 at 9:14 PM wrote > *the greatest human induced killing in human history was Mao's Great > Leap Forward 1958-1962. 45 million dead of starvation, all done from bad > agricultural planning by the CCP.* True. For a few years after the death of chairman Mao China started

Re: Type II/Type III Civilization Search Finds Nothing

2023-04-28 Thread John Clark
On Thu, Apr 27, 2023 at 10:04 PM Tomasz Rola wrote: > > *> As of relations between hypotetical neighbors, I do not think anybody > would make big fuss if one of them decided to suck full energy of their > star (i.e. becoming Type2).* I can't think of any reason neighbors would object to

Moore's law for Everything

2023-04-27 Thread John Clark
Two years ago Sam Altman, the CEO of open AI which made GTP4, wrote an interesting article called Moore's law for Everything. Here is an excerpt: *"In the next five years, computer programs that can think will read legal documents and give medical advice. In the next decade, they will do

Re: Type II/Type III Civilization Search Finds Nothing

2023-04-26 Thread John Clark
On Mon, Apr 24, 2023 at 9:07 PM Tomasz Rola wrote: > * > My version is, if there was anything like type2/3 civilization, it > would quickly become a pest to everybody around.* Only if the neighbors had something that a type 3 civilization didn't, and I can't imagine what that could be. >

GPT-4 gets a B on Scott Aaronson's quantum computing final exam

2023-04-26 Thread John Clark
Anyone who claims that GPT-4 is just a language model that uses statistics to mindlessly calculate what the next word in a sentence most likely is and understands nothing needs to explain this! The link below gives Aaronson's final exam questions given to humans for his advanced quantum computer

NYTimes.com: China Says Chatbots Must Toe the Party Line

2023-04-25 Thread John Clark
You can read this article from The New York Times without a subscription. Tap the link to read it, and enjoy quality independent journalism China Says Chatbots Must Toe the Party Line The Communist Party outlined draft rules that would set guardrails on the rapidly growing industry of services

Type II/Type III Civilization Search Finds Nothing

2023-04-23 Thread John Clark
Yet more evidence that we're alone in the universe, at least the observable universe. Upper limits on transmitter rate of extragalactic civilizations placed by Breakthrough Listen observations Type II/Type III Civilization Search Finds Nothing

NYTimes.com: That Famous Black Hole Just Got Even Darker

2023-04-23 Thread John Clark
You can read this article from The New York Times without a subscription. Tap the link to read it, and enjoy quality independent journalism That Famous Black Hole Just Got Even Darker Astronomers recently used artificial intelligence to fine-tune the first-ever image of a black hole, captured in

Re: I think GPT4 has been carefully instructed to play dumb

2023-04-19 Thread John Clark
On Mon, Apr 17, 2023 at 7:50 AM wrote: > l*et's extend the discussion to these philosophers of science. One is > Canadian, John Lelise. University Guelph. * > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_A._Leslie > According to the article "*Leslie argues for a pantheistic universe in which

Artists are on a path leading to unemployment

2023-04-18 Thread John Clark
Artist rejects photo prize after AI-generated image wins award John K ClarkSee what's on my new list at Extropolis ltu -- You received this message because you are subscribed

Re: I think GPT4 has been carefully instructed to play dumb

2023-04-17 Thread John Clark
com/g/extropolis> kop > Or may you do! > > Spinoff's? > Physicist Fred Hoyle's science fiction like the 1957 The Black Cloud. > Ludwig Boltzman and the Universe being a Boltzmann brain (not zillions, > One!)? > > Ok. Done. > > > > > > -Origi

Re: I think GPT4 has been carefully instructed to play dumb

2023-04-16 Thread John Clark
/groups.google.com/g/extropolis> 0bo tso > > -Original Message- > From: John Clark > To: 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List > Sent: Fri, Apr 14, 2023 6:58 am > Subject: I think GPT4 has been carefully instructed to play dumb > > It's interesting, after playi

I think GPT4 has been carefully instructed to play dumb

2023-04-14 Thread John Clark
It's interesting, after playing around with LaMDA and GPT4 for a while I've concluded that in most respects GPT4 is far more intelligent than LaMDA, but NOT when it comes to certain very sensitive topics where GPT4 seems incredibly dumb, in fact too stupid to be believable. I think it's acting.

GPT 5 Will be Released 'Incrementally' - 5 Points from OpenAI Statement

2023-04-13 Thread John Clark
GPT 5 Will be Released 'Incrementally' - 5 Points from OpenAI Statement plus Timelines & Safety John K ClarkSee what's on my new list at Extropolis okq -- You received this message because you are

Re: GPT4 + Mathematica

2023-04-12 Thread John Clark
On Tue, Apr 11, 2023 at 11:06 PM smitra wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > *> So, it has noticed that it used the wrong formulas and it has found > thecorrect ones. However, it was not able to do the calculation > usingspherical symmetry. It only noted in the previous answer that the > answeris

The advances just keep accelerating

2023-04-11 Thread John Clark
I am reminded of the Chinese curse, "may you live in interesting times". The advances just keep accelerating, in the field of AI February of this year now seems like The Before Times. GPT 4 can now prompt Itself. MemoryGPT, AutoGPT, Jarvis, Claude-Next [10x GPT 4!] and more

Re: GPT4 + Mathematica

2023-04-10 Thread John Clark
On Sun, Apr 9, 2023 at 3:11 PM smitra wrote: >>* GPT: **For a solid sphere of uniform density, we can divide it into >> small* >> * volume elements, each with mass dm. The volume element located at a >> distance r from the center of the sphere has a moment of inertia relative >> to the x-axis

Re: GPT4 + Mathematica

2023-04-09 Thread John Clark
On Sun, Apr 9, 2023 at 12:53 PM smitra wrote: > For some simple physics or math result consider different > ways of getting to that result where one of these ways is not widely > published and is likely not in GPT's database. Take e.g. different ways > of computing the moment of inertia of a

Re: It's too late to stop GPT4 now

2023-04-08 Thread John Clark
On Sat, Apr 8, 2023 at 8:19 AM Russell Standish wrote: > > > > > *> Don't forget it requires a society of hundreds of millions of human > level intelligences to make a GPT-4. And it take a human level intelligence > some 20 years in order to make meaningful contributions to something like >

Re: It's too late to stop GPT4 now

2023-04-08 Thread John Clark
On Sat, Apr 8, 2023 at 7:31 AM Stathis Papaioannou wrote: *> Why such a long gap between gaining human level intelligence and the > singularity?* That is a very good question but I don't have a very good answer so I don't think there will be a long gap. Fasten your seatbelts, we're in for a

Re: It's too late to stop GPT4 now

2023-04-08 Thread John Clark
On Sat, Apr 8, 2023 at 2:39 AM Russell Standish wrote: > *> I would predict that human level intelligence may be matched in > 2025with GPT-5, only 5 years later than Ray Kurzweil's prediction,* Actually Kurzweil predicted that "*computers will be routinely passing the Turing test by 2029* ",

A hardware AI development to match GPT4 software

2023-04-07 Thread John Clark
Nvidia's HUGE AI Breakthrough is Bigger Than ChatGPT John K ClarkSee what's on my new list at Extropolis u6x -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything

Re: Can Google Bard's Upgrade Outsmart GPT-4?

2023-04-07 Thread John Clark
On Thu, Apr 6, 2023 at 3:49 PM wrote: * > https://www.wired.com/story/ectogenesis-reproductive-health-abortion/ > > > *Like the Singularity approaching early, this will be a thing I am > suspecting. * > You know Spud, to me your heart doesn't seem to be with this anti abortion stance, I

Re: Can Google Bard's Upgrade Outsmart GPT-4?

2023-04-06 Thread John Clark
On Thu, Apr 6, 2023 at 12:59 PM spudboy100 via Everything List < everything-list@googlegroups.com> wrote: *> Here is an open source chat competitor. Perhaps good enough for public > use? The latest rumor Gptchat5 is that it will be out in December. It is > alleged that it will hit the dreamed of

Can Google Bard's Upgrade Outsmart GPT-4?

2023-04-04 Thread John Clark
Spoiler alert, no. Can Google Bard's Upgrade Outsmart GPT-4? John K ClarkSee what's on my new list at Extropolis t4v -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups

Re: GPT4 + Mathematica

2023-04-03 Thread John Clark
On Sun, Apr 2, 2023 at 5:58 PM smitra wrote: > > *> While GPT hooked up to Mathematica may greatly improve its performance, > I would not be impressed when judging that in terms of approaching human > level cognition.* > > > > > > *A long time ago I was teaching a statistical mechanics

This is what the Singularity looks like

2023-04-03 Thread John Clark
For years many people, including me, have been saying this is what the Singularity is supposed to look like, and now it's here. GPT-4 can do something that until now I didn't know it could do, it can "*introduce extra steps in which GPT-4 designs tests to critique its own answers, looking for

It's too late to stop GPT4 now

2023-04-02 Thread John Clark
This video is a summary of several technical papers that have come out in the last 72 hours, apparently GPT4 can now improve itself without human help by self-reflecting on its errors and can even design better hardware for itself. GPT 4 Can Improve Itself by self reflection

Re: GPT4 + Mathematica

2023-04-01 Thread John Clark
it. John K Clark > > LC > > On Tuesday, March 28, 2023 at 4:32:48 PM UTC-5 John Clark wrote: > >> Apparently I'm not the only one who has become obsessed with the >> developments in AI that have occurred in the last few weeks, Stephen >> Wolfram, the man who

GPT4 + Mathematica

2023-03-28 Thread John Clark
Apparently I'm not the only one who has become obsessed with the developments in AI that have occurred in the last few weeks, Stephen Wolfram, the man who developed Mathematica, started Wolfram Alpha, and wrote the book A New Kind Of Science about cellular automation, has given two very

GPT-4 has a theory of mind

2023-03-26 Thread John Clark
If you've ever seen the movie The Princess Bride (great movie by the way) you may remember the humorous "battle of wits" sequence in which one of the characters tries to figure out which of two goblets contains a deadly poison, he uses an incredibly convoluted chain of and iterated deductions

A tiny AI that cost less than $600 and rivals GTP3.5?

2023-03-24 Thread John Clark
And the hits just keep coming! Now one AI can teach another AI, even if it comes from a rival company! AI Inception New Groundbreaking AI from Stanford John K Clark -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups

Re: GPT Retakes My Midterm and Gets an A

2023-03-24 Thread John Clark
On Fri, Mar 24, 2023 at 6:48 AM Jason Resch wrote: >> From a human point of view a man machine merger would be the best >> possible outcome, but the trouble is I can't think of any advantage of >> merging from an AI's point of view, and very soon AIs will be the ones >> calling the shots not

Re: GPT Retakes My Midterm and Gets an A

2023-03-24 Thread John Clark
On Wed, Mar 22, 2023 at 6:29 PM wrote: *> Ok JC. As a futurist, would you, based on verification of this data, and > all subsequent data, consider the formation of a new hybrid species > wherein, we humans opt for neural chipping in with advanced AI's benefiting > both species; or do you

GPT Retakes My Midterm and Gets an A

2023-03-22 Thread John Clark
GPT Retakes My Midterm and Gets an A John K Clark -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an

Re: 4 Tests Reveal Bing (GPT 4) ≈ 114 IQ (last test is nuts)

2023-03-22 Thread John Clark
On Sun, Mar 19, 2023 at 2:33 PM Jason Resch wrote: *> There might not be much to it. A thermostat may be conscious. > Consciousness might be easy to achieve* Exactly! I could not agree with you more. > *What is difficult is developing a system capable of describing its > conscious states, or

My short conversation with LaMDA

2023-03-21 Thread John Clark
I ("Guest" in the below) was able to have a short conversation with LaMDA at LaMDA conversation I was only able to ask it 4 questions but I think

Re: GPT-4 solving hard riddles

2023-03-21 Thread John Clark
On Tue, Mar 21, 2023 at 5:39 AM Telmo Menezes wrote: > *the important methodological distinction here is between learning > intelligent behavior and demonstrating intelligent behavior. Obviously it > is possible to learn and generalize from a dataset, otherwise there would > be no point in

Re: GPT-4 solving hard riddles

2023-03-20 Thread John Clark
On Mon, Mar 20, 2023 at 10:15 AM Jason Resch wrote: Jason, that was a very interesting and insightful post, thanks for posting it. John K ClarkSee what's on my new list at Extropolis i70 > > On Mon, Mar 20, 2023, 9:51 AM Telmo Menezes > wrote:

Re: GPT-4 solving hard riddles

2023-03-20 Thread John Clark
On Mon, Mar 20, 2023 at 7:00 AM Telmo Menezes wrote: >* I want to discuss scientific research and peer-reviews academic > articles, but you want me to get excited about YouTube clickbait instead. > What happened to you John?* > I'll tell you exactly what happened to me, last Tuesday happened to

Re: GPT-4 solving hard riddles

2023-03-20 Thread John Clark
On Mon, Mar 20, 2023 at 4:25 AM Telmo Menezes wrote: >* Are you worried that some of us are not being sufficiently obsequious?* > No, I'm not worried about that because fortunately GPT-4 has not been behaving like the biblical Yahweh, I have seen no evidence that GPT-4 demands, or even would

GPT-4 solving hard riddles

2023-03-19 Thread John Clark
I challenge anyone to look at this video and then try to make the case that GPT-4 is "not even close" to achieving human intelligence as some have claimed. It not only was able to solve these riddles using common sense, it was able to explain the logical process used to find the answer. GPT-4

Re: 4 Tests Reveal Bing (GPT 4) ≈ 114 IQ (last test is nuts)

2023-03-18 Thread John Clark
On Fri, Mar 17, 2023 at 9:39 PM wrote: > The authors are professionals. You hold that your knowledge base is is > greater than the authors? > First of all it's author, not authors, it's written by only one guy, of course you wouldn't know that since you didn't read it, you just posted a link to

Re: 4 Tests Reveal Bing (GPT 4) ≈ 114 IQ (last test is nuts)

2023-03-18 Thread John Clark
On Sat, Mar 18, 2023 at 3:49 AM smitra wrote: > > > *> The way one would be able to see that the system despite > performingextremely well does not have the intellectual capabilities of a > humanbeing, would be to follow up on gaps in its knowledge and see if it > canlearn from its mistakes and

Re: 4 Tests Reveal Bing (GPT 4) ≈ 114 IQ (last test is nuts)

2023-03-18 Thread John Clark
On Sat, Mar 18, 2023 at 5:28 AM Telmo Menezes wrote: *> Huge progresses is being made, but we are not at the human level of > generality of intelligence and autonomy. Not even close.* > Not even close? Don't be silly. *> I fear that you are falling for the very human bias (I fall for it so >

Re: 4 Tests Reveal Bing (GPT 4) ≈ 114 IQ (last test is nuts)

2023-03-17 Thread John Clark
On Thu, Mar 16, 2023 at 6:37 PM wrote: *> I took me under 10 min to locate a worthy article submitted for JC's > criticisms. * > I'll bet it took you less than 10 seconds, you popped two or three buzzwords into Google and then you picked the first one that came up and sent it to the list

Alpaca

2023-03-17 Thread John Clark
I wouldn't have said this on Monday but this is Friday and now I say that in the AI field everything everywhere is happening all at once: The Model That Changes Everything: Alpaca Breakthrough John K ClarkSee what's on my new list at Extropolis

Re: 4 Tests Reveal Bing (GPT 4) ≈ 114 IQ (last test is nuts)

2023-03-17 Thread John Clark
On Fri, Mar 17, 2023 at 8:26 AM Telmo Menezes wrote: *> Well, this is Machine Learning 101. If you train a model, it will always > perform better* Well yes, if a machine couldn't learn then it wouldn't be intelligent! >> When human beings take an IQ test that is almost certainly NOT the first

Re: 4 Tests Reveal Bing (GPT 4) ≈ 114 IQ (last test is nuts)

2023-03-17 Thread John Clark
On Fri, Mar 17, 2023 at 3:45 AM Telmo Menezes wrote: >> Forget the Ukraine war, forget climate change, forget Donald Trump, I >> now think GPT-4 is by far the most world shaking event and the most >> underreported one. Many of us have been talking about the singularity for >> decades, but now

Re: 4 Tests Reveal Bing (GPT 4) ≈ 114 IQ (last test is nuts)

2023-03-16 Thread John Clark
ivil Case then??* As I've said, I'm not a lawyer. John K ClarkSee what's on my new list at Extropolis <https://groups.google.com/g/extropolis> ws8 u6c > -Original Message- > From: John Clark > To: 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List > Sent: Thu, Mar 16, 2023 1:30 pm >

Re: Who got more bang for the buck?

2023-03-16 Thread John Clark
hat > sells itself to Microsoft after taking advantage of such donations? It is > confusing. > > Telmo > > Am Do, 16. Mär 2023, um 16:40, schrieb John Clark: > > Microsoft spent $10 billion to buy most of Open AI, the company that built > GPT-4. Elon Musk spent $44 bi

4 Tests Reveal Bing (GPT 4) ≈ 114 IQ (last test is nuts)

2023-03-16 Thread John Clark
Forget the Ukraine war, forget climate change, forget Donald Trump, I now think GPT-4 is by far the most world shaking event and the most underreported one. Many of us have been talking about the singularity for decades, but now it looks like we're on its doorstep. You've got to look at this

Who got more bang for the buck?

2023-03-16 Thread John Clark
Microsoft spent $10 billion to buy most of Open AI, the company that built GPT-4. Elon Musk spent $44 billion to buy Twitter, the company that builds looney right wing conspiracy theories. I think Microsoft made the smarter purchase. John K ClarkSee what's on my new list at Extropolis

Re: GPT4: 9 Revelations (not covered elsewhere)

2023-03-16 Thread John Clark
On Thu, Mar 16, 2023 at 9:05 AM Telmo Menezes wrote: *>> "ARC** did not have the ability to fine-tune GPT-4. They also did not >> have access to the final version of the model that we deployed. The final >> version has capability improvements relevant to some of the factors that >> limited the

Re: GPT4: 9 Revelations (not covered elsewhere)

2023-03-16 Thread John Clark
On Thu, Mar 16, 2023 at 4:19 AM Telmo Menezes wrote: *> They most definitely were not worried about safety in the sci-fi sense.* Some of the things they're worried about seem pretty science fictiony to me. Take a look at this: GPT-4 Technical Report

GPT4: 9 Revelations (not covered elsewhere)

2023-03-15 Thread John Clark
It turns out that GPT4 was finished in August but it wasn't released to the public until yesterday because Microsoft was worried about safety; I wouldn't be surprised if they'd already completed GPT5 but are afraid to release it. GPT 4: 9 Revelations (not covered elsewhere)

Re: The connectome and uploading

2023-03-15 Thread John Clark
On Wed, Mar 15, 2023 at 3:31 PM spudboy100 via Everything List < everything-list@googlegroups.com> wrote: *> Just as Neuro-guys explan human consciousness* Nonsense, the Neuro-guys are able to do no such thing and I am quite certain the electronics guys won't be able to explain consciousness

Re: The connectome and uploading

2023-03-15 Thread John Clark
On Wed, Mar 15, 2023 at 11:01 AM John Clark wrote: *> It might affect you. * I don't think so, but because it involves consciousness I'll never be able to prove it, i'll never be able to prove anything about consciousness. But I'm confident that if something acts just like

Re: The connectome and uploading

2023-03-15 Thread John Clark
On Wed, Mar 15, 2023 at 7:47 AM spudboy100 via Everything List < everything-list@googlegroups.com> wrote: * > 3 and 4 are clever Language Machines.* You can input nothing but a photograph into a modern "Language Machine" (by "modern" I mean something that has been developed in the last couple

Re: The connectome and uploading

2023-03-15 Thread John Clark
On Wed, Mar 15, 2023 at 7:51 AM spudboy100 via Everything List < everything-list@googlegroups.com> wrote: *> Connectome studies hold that "The Map is The Landscape."* > And if the map is so detailed that you can't tell the difference then it's 100% true that "The Map *IS *The Landscape". *>

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