Top Down Nanotechnology

2022-10-31 Thread John Clark
There are two different paths that I think could bring on the singularity, AI and Nanotechnology, today I want to talk about Nanotechnology, particularly the top down variety used by the semiconductor chip industry rather than the bottom up path proposed by Eric Drexler. Chipmakers use light to

Re: Is Theanthropism Rational (scientific)?

2022-10-31 Thread John Clark
On Mon, Oct 31, 2022 at 8:06 AM spudboy100 via Everything List < everything-list@googlegroups.com> wrote: So, if God works through evolution and physical law sometimes, what's your > complaint? If things happen because of evolution and physical law then there is nothing left for God to do, He

Is China's economy smaller than we thought?

2022-10-30 Thread John Clark
Take a look at this. I don't know enough economics to determine if this analysis is correct, perhaps somebody on the list does, but I do know that just like presidents in democracies, dictators have a motive to lie and inflate their country's GDP numbers, but unlike presidents dictators also have

Re: Space elevator technology

2022-10-29 Thread John Clark
On Sat, Oct 29, 2022 at 4:37 AM 'spudboy...@aol.com' via Everything List < everything-list@googlegroups.com> wrote: > I* haven't watched Anton Petrov for a while on YouTube. What magical > material is he proposing that we use to make stable hard to break space > elevators?* A way to

Re: Apparently objective quantum wave function collapse doesn't occur

2022-10-29 Thread John Clark
On Fri, Oct 28, 2022 at 6:07 PM Bruce Kellett wrote: *> But we know for a fact that the laws of physics as we know them today > are not correct.* True, the laws of physics as we know them break down at the centers of Black Holes and at the instant of the Big Bang, but they're the best thing we

Apparently objective quantum wave function collapse doesn't occur

2022-10-28 Thread John Clark
On Fri, Oct 28, 2022 at 3:37 PM Brent Meeker wrote: *> Well, I think your condition that it be erased before the particle hits > the screen is another misunderstanding your part. * If there is a misunderstanding then it's not mine it's David Deutsch's because that's what the man said, but I

Space elevator technology

2022-10-28 Thread John Clark
Exciting New Updates About Space Elevator Technology...Possible After All? John K ClarkSee what's on my new list at Extropolis sek -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google

Re: Apparently objective quantum wave function collapse doesn't occur

2022-10-28 Thread John Clark
On Fri, Oct 28, 2022 at 1:09 AM Brent Meeker wrote: * > I was citing Carroll on the delayed choice quantum erasure...not on > anything Deutsch said. * > OK, then whatever Carroll was saying that you were referring to is irrelevant to what we were discussing. And by the way, Carroll is just as

Re: Apparently objective quantum wave function collapse doesn't occur

2022-10-27 Thread John Clark
On Thu, Oct 27, 2022 at 8:24 PM Brent Meeker wrote: *> Whether you've read it or not, you have not understood the one on > delayed-choice quantum erasure. Notice that he lets the particles hit the > screen and then does the erasure by picking out the left-spin v. the > right-spin.* First of

Re: Apparently objective quantum wave function collapse doesn't occur

2022-10-27 Thread John Clark
On Thu, Oct 27, 2022 at 6:55 PM Bruce Kellett wrote: *> You can delay the choice as to whether or not to utilize the > information about which slit the particle went through until long after > that particle has hit the screen* > No you cannot, you must perform the quantum erasure after the

Re: Apparently objective quantum wave function collapse doesn't occur

2022-10-27 Thread John Clark
On Thu, Oct 27, 2022 at 5:05 PM Brent Meeker wrote: *> as pointed out by Carroll in his explication of the delayed choice > quantum experiment, "...make the measurement you program it to produce a > document saying it has knowledge of which slit the electron went > through..." this can't be a

Re: Apparently objective quantum wave function collapse doesn't occur

2022-10-27 Thread John Clark
On Thu, Oct 27, 2022 at 12:23 AM Brent Meeker wrote: >> Why would you believe the universe is ALWAYS lying to us? Why do you >> believe the existence of dinosaur bones implies that dinosaurs once existed? > > *> It isn't "The Universe" that is producing this document. It's some AI > that

Re: Apparently objective quantum wave function collapse doesn't occur

2022-10-27 Thread John Clark
On Wed, Oct 26, 2022 at 10:39 PM Brent Meeker wrote: *> I don't see how any rational person could take Superdeterminism >> seriously.* > > *> Yet you happily swallow a theory which postulates that EVERYTHING > nomologically possible happens?* Correct, I swallow the Many World's idea even

Re: Apparently objective quantum wave function collapse doesn't occur

2022-10-27 Thread John Clark
On Wed, Oct 26, 2022 at 5:55 PM Bruce Kellett wrote: >> Then why does the document insist that there was and why does it keep on >> insisting no matter how many times the experiment is repeated? Do you think >> the universe is inherently a liar and *NEVER* tells the truth? >> > > > Maybe the

Re: Strangelets

2022-10-27 Thread John Clark
on Thu, Oct 27, 2022 at 6:23 AM Lawrence Crowell < goldenfieldquaterni...@gmail.com> wrote: > *I suspect there is something wrong with the idea that strangelet matter > can exist at zero pressure. I should think if this really were the case all > matter would be strange matter, (u,d,s), already.

Strangelets

2022-10-26 Thread John Clark
Unless you have access to a large particle accelerator everything you see in your daily life is made up of electrons, up quarks, and down quarks, but now in the October 24 issue of the journal Nature Astronomy, evidence is presented that there is a macroscopic object that has equal numbers of up,

Re: Apparently objective quantum wave function collapse doesn't occur

2022-10-26 Thread John Clark
On Wed, Oct 26, 2022 at 7:01 AM Bruce Kellett wrote: *> In all cases, if the which-way information is preserved, no interference >>> is seen. * >> >> >> True. >> >> *> But if the which-way information is quantum erased, interference is >>> visible. * >> >> >> > Also true but then… why

Re: Apparently objective quantum wave function collapse doesn't occur

2022-10-26 Thread John Clark
On Wed, Oct 26, 2022 at 1:34 AM Brent Meeker wrote: *> not at all surprising once you adopt quantum field theory in which > particles are just field quanta.* Even Niels Bohr, the father of the Copenhagen interpretation, said "*if you are not shocked by quantum mechanics then you don't

Re: Apparently objective quantum wave function collapse doesn't occur

2022-10-26 Thread John Clark
On Tue, Oct 25, 2022 at 7:37 PM Bruce Kellett wrote: *> In all cases, if the which-way information is preserved, no interference > is seen. * True. *> But if the which-way information is quantum erased, interference is > visible. * Also true but then… why would you say "*I, too, would

Re: Apparently objective quantum wave function collapse doesn't occur

2022-10-26 Thread John Clark
On Wed, Oct 26, 2022 at 1:35 AM Brent Meeker wrote: *>Why would you believe the document was correct?* Why would you believe the universe is *ALWAYS* lying to us? Why do you believe the existence of dinosaur bones implies that dinosaurs once existed? John K ClarkSee what's on my new list

Re: Apparently objective quantum wave function collapse doesn't occur

2022-10-25 Thread John Clark
On Tue, Oct 25, 2022 at 6:43 PM Bruce Kellett wrote: >> If no which-way measurement has been made then how do you explain the >> document that swears that such a measurement HAD been made? > > > *> No such document can exist since no measurement was made. * So if such a document is produced

Re: Apparently objective quantum wave function collapse doesn't occur

2022-10-25 Thread John Clark
On Tue, Oct 25, 2022 at 6:14 PM Bruce Kellett wrote: *> That is as much mumbo-jumbo as anything in Copenhagen. For instance, > what determines if the difference between the worlds is small 'enough'?* If only a tiny change has been made then it's not unlikely that another tiny change can change

Re: Apparently objective quantum wave function collapse doesn't occur

2022-10-25 Thread John Clark
On Tue, Oct 25, 2022 at 5:31 PM Bruce Kellett wrote: *> One of the main troubles with this is that the Copenhagen > Interpretation, insofar as there is any such thing, does not entail that > the wave function collapses when the result enters consciousness. This was > a mad idea put forward by

Re: Apparently objective quantum wave function collapse doesn't occur

2022-10-25 Thread John Clark
On Tue, Oct 25, 2022 at 6:21 AM Lawrence Crowell < goldenfieldquaterni...@gmail.com> wrote: *> The dynamic collapse models have some observable component to them that > make them testable. It appears they are falsified. Many Worlds > Interpretation and the Hugh Everett idea has no such thing. It

Apparently objective quantum wave function collapse doesn't occur

2022-10-24 Thread John Clark
One of the main competitors to Everett's Many Worlds idea is Continuous Spontaneous Localization, the idea that an additional term needs to be added to Schrödinger's wave equation that randomly and very rarely collapses the wave function so there is only one objective reality. One great advantage

NYTimes.com: Biden Just Clobbered China’s Chip Industry

2022-10-22 Thread John Clark
Check out this article from The New York Times. Because I'm a subscriber, you can read it through this gift link without a subscription. Biden Just Clobbered China’s Chip Industry The latest American trade restrictions could significantly set back China’s semiconductor ambitions.

Re: The ex-president admits he gave top-secret information to somebody without a security clearance

2022-10-22 Thread John Clark
On Fri, Oct 21, 2022 wrote: *> No Trumpy genes here* No self consistency either. It is logically self-contradictory for someone to believe in freedom and still want Trump to win the next presidential election after watching this video clip. Please note that Trump says after he won his second

Re: The ex-president admits he gave top-secret information to somebody without a security clearance

2022-10-21 Thread John Clark
On Fri, Oct 21, 2022 at 3:00 PM spudboy100 via Everything List < everything-list@googlegroups.com> wrote: > *> The thing you need to focus on is not how Trump won in 2016, but how > Hilary lost?* > Hillary lost because she focused her campaign on the American people and not on the Electoral

Re: The ex-president admits he gave top-secret information to somebody without a security clearance

2022-10-21 Thread John Clark
On Thu, Oct 20, 2022 at 7:52 PM spudboy100 via Everything List < everything-list@googlegroups.com> wrote: *> I cannot even discuss politics with my own sister, and her husband of > many years. They will not discuss policies, so if I cannot convince them,* One of my sisters voted for Trump in

Re: The ex-president admits he gave top-secret information to somebody without a security clearance

2022-10-21 Thread John Clark
On Thu, Oct 20, 2022 at 7:21 PM wrote: *> The stuff I have read, and its not been the stuff of Fox, dear JC, > indicates that back in the day Woodward and Bernstein came up with the most > of the info out of thin air.* > And yet nearly everything Woodward and Bernstein came up with "out of

Re: The ex-president admits he gave top-secret information to somebody without a security clearance

2022-10-20 Thread John Clark
On Thu, Oct 20, 2022 at 11:03 AM Telmo Menezes wrote: *> I mean... I don't know what to tell you. You really think that the most > likely explanation for her hiring someone to install an email server in her > bathroom instead of using existing government infrastructure is her "being > sloppy"?*

Re: The ex-president admits he gave top-secret information to somebody without a security clearance

2022-10-20 Thread John Clark
On Wed, Oct 19, 2022 at 5:56 PM wrote: *> Woodward and Bernstein created deep throat out of whole cloth, and then > attributed it to Mark Felt.* > Wow, you've served us up heaping plates of nonsense before but this is something special, this is undiluted, triple distilled, extra virgin

Re: The ex-president admits he gave top-secret information to somebody without a security clearance

2022-10-20 Thread John Clark
On Wed, Oct 19, 2022 at 10:05 PM wrote: > > *> Lets not forget former Congressman and now Biden team mater Eric > Swallwell and his assignation with CCP spy Bang Bang, er', Fang Fang. Fang > Fang scandal - Congressman Eric Swalwell refuses to say if he had sex with > Chinese ‘spy’ as it is

Why China can't make chips

2022-10-19 Thread John Clark
Now that China has started to attack the free market in general and high-tech companies in particular and it's become clear that Xi Jinping intends to remain dictator till he dies of old age, this problem will only intensify. China was on the path towards dominating the world economically but it

The ex-president admits he gave top-secret information to somebody without a security clearance

2022-10-19 Thread John Clark
I remember back in 2016 the ridiculous brouhaha Trump disciples made over Hillary Clinton's emails and their insistence that top-secret information is sacred and should be protected with the highest security possible, so it has rankled me how indifferent they are for the ex-president to casually

Re: NYTimes.com: Biden Administration Clamps Down on China’s Access to Chip Technology

2022-10-13 Thread John Clark
On Wed, Oct 12, 2022 at 9:25 PM wrote: *> When I say bribe it need not be a Cash Payment JC. For me, and possibly > yourself, it could be a massive R project, to you yourself might > findirresistible? Now, if I, a vile Trump voter came down on say, > perfecting cryonics to extend and secure

Re: NYTimes.com: NASA Spacecraft Accomplishes Mission and Smashes Asteroid Into New Orbit

2022-10-13 Thread John Clark
On Wed, Oct 12, 2022 at 8:41 PM spudboy100 via Everything List < everything-list@googlegroups.com> wrote: *> pedophilia seems to be a thing with the party.* You believe every piece of nonsense that somebody has typed out on the Internet provided it doesn't contradict your extreme right wing

Re: NYTimes.com: Biden Administration Clamps Down on China’s Access to Chip Technology

2022-10-12 Thread John Clark
On Wed, Oct 12, 2022 at 3:20 PM wrote: *> I rate Joey as far better, even though he accepted bribes from Xi,* > Your worldview is childish, you believe all foreign relations, if not all human interactions, can be explained by simply saying somebody got bribed. Everybody accepts bribes, except

Re: NYTimes.com: NASA Spacecraft Accomplishes Mission and Smashes Asteroid Into New Orbit

2022-10-12 Thread John Clark
On Wed, Oct 12, 2022 at 9:51 AM wrote: *> I surmise that with the 32 second degree of change, this method is real > life does likely prevent, given enough time/warning will prevent another > Tunguska, another Cretaceous-Paleogene Extinction Event, which seems to be > the big success of our age.

Re: NYTimes.com: Biden Administration Clamps Down on China’s Access to Chip Technology

2022-10-12 Thread John Clark
On Wed, Oct 12, 2022 at 10:12 AM wrote: *> John, its this simply; both capitalists and non-capitalists do harm to > the rest of us. Yeah, I hate everybody. There's a lot to hate* > I don't get you. If everybody is hateful and it's all just a rat race why do you give a damn who ends up being

NYTimes.com: NASA Spacecraft Accomplishes Mission and Smashes Asteroid Into New Orbit

2022-10-12 Thread John Clark
Check out this article from The New York Times. Because I'm a subscriber, you can read it through this gift link without a subscription. NASA Spacecraft Accomplishes Mission and Smashes Asteroid Into New Orbit The DART mission proved more successful than expected in adjusting the trajectory of

Re: NYTimes.com: Biden Administration Clamps Down on China’s Access to Chip Technology

2022-10-11 Thread John Clark
On Mon, Oct 10, 2022 at 9:07 PM wrote: *> The Commies don't hate Caps as long as they benefit,* Spud, you hate capitalists and you hate non-capitalists, so who do you like? Do you hate everybody? And ask capitalistic Chinese billionaires if they have benefited from the Chinese communists:

Re: NYTimes.com: Biden Administration Clamps Down on China’s Access to Chip Technology

2022-10-10 Thread John Clark
On Sun, Oct 9, 2022 at 6:36 PM wrote: * > I could see Larry Fink and the other billionaires (Gates?) fleeing to > China, after a Chinese attack, to avoid the lynch mob. * Spud, you claim to hate communism but apparently you've never heard the saying the enemy of my enemy is my friend. If

NYTimes.com: Biden Administration Clamps Down on China’s Access to Chip Technology

2022-10-08 Thread John Clark
Check out this article from The New York Times. Because I'm a subscriber, you can read it through this gift link without a subscription. Biden Administration Clamps Down on China’s Access to Chip Technology The White House issued sweeping restrictions on selling semiconductors and chip-making

Re: Nobel prize for quantum entanglement

2022-10-07 Thread John Clark
On Thu, Oct 6, 2022 at 8:24 PM Bruce Kellett wrote: *> I was gratified to hear of this Nobel award:* > > > *https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-10-04/three-quantum-information-scientists-share-nobel-prize-physics/101501766 >

First chat with the conscious AI & Tesla's robot. AI's first serious threat.

2022-10-06 Thread John Clark
First chat with the conscious AI & Tesla's robot. AI's first serious threat. John K Clark -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving

Re: NYTimes.com: In Washington, Putin’s Nuclear Threats Stir Growing Alarm

2022-10-03 Thread John Clark
On Mon, Oct 3, 2022 at 12:07 AM Brent Meeker wrote: * > Yes that's one way it could go bad. But there's also the case that > they literally don't work. * > Unfortunately I think there is little chance that Russian H-bombs won't explode because it's not that difficult to maintain them;

Re: NYTimes.com: In Washington, Putin’s Nuclear Threats Stir Growing Alarm

2022-10-02 Thread John Clark
On Sun, Oct 2, 2022 at 5:42 PM Brent Meeker wrote: > * > Think how bad it will be if Putin uses tactical nuclear weapons in > Ukraine and they don't work!* > That's what I'm worried about. Tactical nukes won't give much military help in this sort of war, so a autocrat like Putin may think

NYTimes.com: In Washington, Putin’s Nuclear Threats Stir Growing Alarm

2022-10-02 Thread John Clark
Check out this article from The New York Times. Because I'm a subscriber, you can read it through this gift link without a subscription. In Washington, Putin’s Nuclear Threats Stir Growing Alarm In a gathering Cold War atmosphere, American officials are gaming out responses should Russia resort

DALL-E

2022-09-29 Thread John Clark
Now anybody can use DALL-E, I typed in "Mickey Mouse painted in the style of HR Giger" [Giger is the artist who dreamed up the monster in the movie Alien] and I got the result that you can see below. You can sign up and give it a try yourself at https://openai.com/dall-e-2/ [image:

NYTimes.com: ‘Putin Is a Fool’: Intercepted Calls Reveal Russian Army in Disarray

2022-09-29 Thread John Clark
Check out this article from The New York Times. Because I'm a subscriber, you can read it through this gift link without a subscription. ‘Putin Is a Fool’: Intercepted Calls Reveal Russian Army in Disarray In phone calls to friends and relatives at home, Russian soldiers gave damning insider

NYTimes.com: Alzheimer’s Drug Slows Cognitive Decline in Key Study

2022-09-28 Thread John Clark
Check out this article from The New York Times. Because I'm a subscriber, you can read it through this gift link without a subscription. Alzheimer’s Drug Slows Cognitive Decline in Key Study Biogen and Eisai reported the finding from a large late-stage clinical trial of lecanemab, a drug they

Can life exists on planets around red dwarf stars?

2022-09-27 Thread John Clark
Our sun is brighter than every star you can see in the night sky with your naked eye and yet the sun is brighter than 80% of the stars in the universe, that's because most stars are red dwarfs but I have long thought that life could not develop on any planet orbiting such a star. Proxima Centauri

Protein design, the inverse of the protein folding problem

2022-09-16 Thread John Clark
AlphaFold solved the protein folding problem some time ago and now, judging from two articles in today's issue of the journal Science, it looks like the inverse problem has also been solved, the protein design problem. If you tell a program called "ProteinMPNN" that you want a 3-D protein that has

NYTimes.com: The New Covid Boosters Are Amazing News

2022-09-15 Thread John Clark
Check out this article from The New York Times. Because I'm a subscriber, you can read it through this gift link without a subscription. The New Covid Boosters Are Amazing News These updated vaccines are more protective, could fight future variants and help stave off long Covid.

Re: A new way to make ultra powerful lasers

2022-09-14 Thread John Clark
On Wed, Sep 14, 2022 at 6:44 PM Lawrence Crowell < goldenfieldquaterni...@gmail.com> wrote: > This appears really to not so much about making a high-power laser as it > is with optical components that work with such light. Yes but it does show there's no physical reason a laser can't pulse

Einstein was right yet again

2022-09-14 Thread John Clark
The "MICROSCOPE" experiment was devised to test Einstein's equivalence principle with 100 times greater precision than had ever been achieved before, the idea that all objects fall in a gravitational field at exactly the same speed. MICROSCOPE consisted of a 402 gram platinum cylinder inside a 300

Re: A new way to make ultra powerful lasers

2022-09-13 Thread John Clark
On Tue, Sep 13, 2022 at 8:19 AM Brent Meeker wrote: >> And if you've got a laser with 90% efficiency and you don't have to >> worry about damaging the optical components (and if they're made of plasma >> you don't) then the number of super short laser pulses you produce each >> second is limited

Re: A new way to make ultra powerful lasers

2022-09-13 Thread John Clark
On Mon, Sep 12, 2022 at 2:44 PM John Clark wrote: > Well yes, increasing the output energy more than the input energy would > violate the laws of physics, but increasing the power would not. This > could do more than just make new weapons, it could increase the possibility > o

Re: A new way to make ultra powerful lasers

2022-09-12 Thread John Clark
On Mon, Sep 12, 2022 at 2:33 PM Brent Meeker wrote: > > *But it sounds like it just achieves high power by taking ordinary energy > pulses and compressing them in time.* > Well yes, increasing the output energy more than the input energy would violate the laws of physics, but increasing the

A new way to make ultra powerful lasers

2022-09-11 Thread John Clark
Using current techniques the power of a laser is limited because of the damage intense power can cause to the optical elements in the laser. In a new paper a method has been found to overcome this limitation by making the optical elements, not out of glass or diamond or sapphire but, out of

Re: The code for AGI will be simple

2022-09-10 Thread John Clark
On Fri, Sep 9, 2022 at 8:26 AM smitra wrote: *> A system with AGI doesn't have to be all that intelligent * AGI is supposed to stand for Artificial General Intelligence, if something can have AGI without being intelligent then I don't know what "AGI" means. > *for it to be **extremely

Re: The code for AGI will be simple

2022-09-09 Thread John Clark
On Fri, Sep 9, 2022 at 5:20 AM Telmo Menezes wrote: >> Even if you have an IQ of 200 and spend your entire life studying >> consciousness you will advance the field precisely as much as the entire >> human race has in the last thousand years. And that would be precisely >> zero. Isaac Newton

Re: The code for AGI will be simple

2022-09-08 Thread John Clark
On Thu, Sep 8, 2022 at 6:31 PM Brent Meeker wrote: Like me Carmack is much more interested in intelligence than consciousness and has no interest in the "philosophical zombie" argument. >>> >>> >>> *>>> It is possible to be highly interested in both. Why not?* >>> >> >> * >> If one

Re: The code for AGI will be simple

2022-09-08 Thread John Clark
On Thu, Sep 8, 2022 at 8:19 AM Telmo Menezes wrote: >> Like me Carmack is much more interested in intelligence than >> consciousness and has no interest in the "philosophical zombie" argument. > > > *> It is possible to be highly interested in both. Why not?* > Because one is a useful activity

The code for AGI will be simple

2022-09-08 Thread John Clark
This is an interview of the great computer programmer John Carmack, he thinks the time when computers can do everything, not just some things, as good or better than humans is much closer than most people believe, he thinks there is a 60% chance it will happen by 2030. Like me Carmack is much more

A prediction of an imminent Black Hole collision

2022-09-03 Thread John Clark
A prediction has been made that 2 supermassive black holes in a galaxy 1.1 billion light years away will collide within the next 3 years. The galaxy has a core that is extremely bright in optical, ultraviolet and x-rays and the interesting thing is the intensity of the radiation fluctuates and the

Re: Trump and government secrecy

2022-09-03 Thread John Clark
On Thu, Sep 1, 2022 at 12:08 PM Telmo Menezes wrote: >> Biden lacks showmanship but he is not crazy nor is he cruel, and if he >> is not brilliant he is at least reasonably competent. > > *> He is a non-entity. Which is better than being Trump, I will grant you > that.* Biden may be a

NYTimes.com: An A.I.-Generated Picture Won an Art Prize. Artists Aren’t Happy.

2022-09-02 Thread John Clark
Check out this article from The New York Times. Because I'm a subscriber, you can read it through this gift link without a subscription. An A.I.-Generated Picture Won an Art Prize. Artists Aren’t Happy. “I won, and I didn’t break any rules,” the artwork’s creator says.

Re: Trump and government secrecy

2022-09-01 Thread John Clark
On Thu, Sep 1, 2022 at 2:38 PM Telmo Menezes wrote: I hope that you are right. > Me too! > > Telmo > > Am Do, 1. Sep 2022, um 19:11, schrieb Brent Meeker: > > This is how I think it will go. Trump will be charged with mishandling > government documents and convicted. Biden will pardon him,

Re: Trump and government secrecy

2022-09-01 Thread John Clark
On Thu, Sep 1, 2022 at 11:09 AM Telmo Menezes wrote: *> Yes, I do suspect that the "basket of deplorables" comment cost her the > election. It was a stupid and mean thing to say,* > It may or may not have been mean but it was certainly accurate, and if it was stupid then it was because it's

Re: Trump and government secrecy

2022-09-01 Thread John Clark
On Thu, Sep 1, 2022 at 8:58 AM Telmo Menezes wrote: *> Hillary Clinton was a horrible candidate.* > Yes she was a poor campaigner and made the rookie blunder of telling the truth by referring to Trump supporters as "*a basket of deplorables*", successful politicians seldom tell the truth.

Re: Christian Adolf and adolfic Christians [was: Re: What Threshold Threat of CO2]

2022-08-28 Thread John Clark
On Sat, Aug 27, 2022 at 10:22 PM Brent Meeker wrote: >> On 8/27/2022 6:31 PM, spudboy100 via Everything List wrote: >> >> I am no conservative, but more of a nationalist-centrist and can be >> >> persuaded by evidence and reason. > > > * >Does anybody believe that...besides you?* > For Trump

Re: Christian Adolf and adolfic Christians [was: Re: What Threshold Threat of CO2]

2022-08-26 Thread John Clark
On Fri, Aug 26, 2022 at 4:18 PM spudboy100 via Everything List < everything-list@googlegroups.com> wrote: *> I postulate this. That had *[George] *Carlin lived longer, he would > have, not without reject, voted for Orange Man. * *You've got to be kidding!! * *> You dems groove on

Re: FW: What drives the Black Holes?

2022-08-26 Thread John Clark
On Fri, Aug 26, 2022 at 12:46 PM Philip Benjamin wrote: *>What drives the Black Holes? What has aseity?* Pagans of course. John K ClarkSee what's on my new list at Extropolis poc > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to

Is Google’s New AI As Smart As A Human?

2022-08-26 Thread John Clark
Is Google’s New AI As Smart As A Human? John K ClarkSee what's on my new list at Extropolis stt -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To

Re: Christian Adolf and adolfic Christians [was: Re: What Threshold Threat of CO2]

2022-08-26 Thread John Clark
On Fri, Aug 26, 2022 at 5:46 AM Lawrence Crowell < goldenfieldquaterni...@gmail.com> wrote: *> There is no such thing as "common wisdom" of the average man. If there > were Don-the-Con t'Rump would not have been elected. The average person is > pretty ignorant and half of them are just

Re: Information conservation and irreversibility

2022-08-26 Thread John Clark
On Fri, Aug 26, 2022 at 5:41 AM Lawrence Crowell < goldenfieldquaterni...@gmail.com> wrote: *> I do not think much of this idea that the universe is sentient.* I think the idea is a bit silly because I don't see any way to prove or disprove it even in theory. And in the entire universe the only

Re: The Reverse Simulation Hypothesis and the Prime Doctrine

2022-08-26 Thread John Clark
On Thu, Aug 25, 2022 at 5:02 PM Dirk Van Niekerk wrote: > > *Languages like Chinese and English have indeed simplified and one of the > reasons is that these imperial languages have added large numbers of adult > speakers who had to newly learn the language which tends to lead to >

Re: NYTimes.com: We Need to Talk About How Good A.I. Is Getting

2022-08-25 Thread John Clark
On Thu, Aug 25, 2022 at 6:13 AM Telmo Menezes wrote: *> Why aren't we being visited by alien AIs? * Yes, that is the big question. The most obvious answer is because we are the first, and sometimes the most obvious answer turns out to be correct. John K ClarkSee what's on my new list at

Re: Defund The FBI

2022-08-24 Thread John Clark
On Tue, Aug 23, 2022 at 11:55 PM wrote: *> The Justice Dept and the FBI are exclusive clients of the DNC. * The current head of the FBI is Christopher Wray and he was appointed by a fellow by the name of Donald J Trump. And a typical FBI agent is white, male, middle-aged, and has a military

NYTimes.com: We Need to Talk About How Good A.I. Is Getting

2022-08-24 Thread John Clark
Check out this article from The New York Times. Because I'm a subscriber, you can read it through this gift link without a subscription. We Need to Talk About How Good A.I. Is Getting We’re in a golden age of progress in artificial intelligence. It’s time to start taking its potential and risks

Re: Christian Adolf and adolfic Christians [was: Re: What Threshold Threat of CO2]

2022-08-24 Thread John Clark
On Tue, Aug 23, 2022 at 11:33 PM wrote: > *I don't worship science as a faith. * > Neither do scientists. > *> On the other hand, this theory hasn't been successfully refuted, yet!* > The theory that there is a China teapot in orbit around the planet Uranus hasn't been refuted either!

Re: Christian Adolf and adolfic Christians [was: Re: What Threshold Threat of CO2]

2022-08-24 Thread John Clark
On Tue, Aug 23, 2022 at 11:30 PM spudboy100 via Everything List < everything-list@googlegroups.com> wrote: *> The Nuremberg Laws of 1935 were legal as well. The point is that whether > criminal or government, its the physical action that matters. Thus, policy > matters and not personality. * >

Defund The FBI

2022-08-23 Thread John Clark
The idiotic slogan "defund the police" certainly will not help the Democrats on election day but the Republicans have proven themselves to be even stupider because they can't learn from their opponent's blunder; the Republicans now have an idiotic slogan of their own, "defund the FBI". And by the

Re: Christian Adolf and adolfic Christians [was: Re: What Threshold Threat of CO2]

2022-08-23 Thread John Clark
On Mon, Aug 22, 2022 at 8:32 PM wrote: *> So, should we discard history because somebody is long dead?* > Yes except for academic purposes, and we certainly shouldn't start murdering each other over it. The Sunni-Shia conflict exists because some Muslims think that when Muhammad died in 632 and

Re: Christian Adolf and adolfic Christians [was: Re: What Threshold Threat of CO2]

2022-08-22 Thread John Clark
On Mon, Aug 22, 2022 at 4:18 PM spudboy100 via Everything List < everything-list@googlegroups.com> wrote: *> Religion didn't do a damn thing really to improve the human condition, > say in Europe. It did seem to as a practice stop formal human sacrifice,* And why did religion start in the first

Re: The Reverse Simulation Hypothesis and the Prime Doctrine

2022-08-22 Thread John Clark
On Mon, Aug 22, 2022 at 9:53 AM Joel Dietz wrote: *> The “game” of the RSH effect states that although all humans (e.g. > agents) within the universe have agency * And agency means having the ability to choose what action to take, and you can make a choice if you have free will, and you have

Re: Christian Adolf and adolfic Christians [was: Re: What Threshold Threat of CO2]

2022-08-22 Thread John Clark
On Mon, Aug 22, 2022 at 8:38 AM wrote: *> Bushie 43, like Adolf, Like Joey (free stuff!) knew how to throw a sales > pitch. My question is, does anyone know or believe (evidence please) that > Bush allowed Bin Laden to escape to Iran (blink-blink)?* > I really hate defending George W. Bush but

Re: Christian Adolf and adolfic Christians [was: Re: What Threshold Threat of CO2]

2022-08-22 Thread John Clark
On Sun, Aug 21, 2022 at 10:04 PM Tomasz Rola wrote: > >> but it's very easy to find evidence that Osama bin Laden did >> >> what he did for religious reasons, all you need to do is look at just >> about >> >> anything he ever said or wrote in his life. Even George W. Bush said >> he >> >>

Re: Christian Adolf and adolfic Christians [was: Re: What Threshold Threat of CO2]

2022-08-22 Thread John Clark
On Sun, Aug 21, 2022 at 6:41 PM spudboy100 via Everything List < everything-list@googlegroups.com> wrote: * > progressives, who in the US, are stalinists funded by billion$ in a > trade of money (blah blah blah)* If progressives are the stalinist totalitarians why is it that it is the Trump

Re: Christian Adolf and adolfic Christians [was: Re: What Threshold Threat of CO2]

2022-08-21 Thread John Clark
On Sun, Aug 21, 2022 at 5:28 PM spudboy100 via Everything List < everything-list@googlegroups.com> wrote: *> The Christians are good. If millions followed Adolf, millions more > fought to defeat him and his followers.* Every single one of the soldiers in Hitler's army, Navy and Air Force were

Re: Christian Adolf and adolfic Christians [was: Re: What Threshold Threat of CO2]

2022-08-21 Thread John Clark
On Sun, Aug 21, 2022 at 2:56 PM Tomasz Rola wrote: > *> crimes are not being done to satiate religious feelings (except, > perhaps, satanism) - "normal" human beingsdo crimes to satiate their basic > instincts* What evidence do you have that the above statement is true? I don't think you have

Re: Christian Adolf and adolfic Christians [was: Re: What Threshold Threat of CO2]

2022-08-21 Thread John Clark
On Sun, Aug 21, 2022 at 4:58 AM Tomasz Rola wrote: *> You two (Crowell && Clark) may consider yourselves as some kind of wise > guys. * *Well, I know Lawrence has a certain amount of wisdom and I like to think I do too. * *> But frankly, it does not require much of brain power to find

Re: Information conservation and irreversibility

2022-08-21 Thread John Clark
On Sun, Aug 21, 2022 at 7:23 AM Lawrence Crowell < goldenfieldquaterni...@gmail.com> wrote: *> The same happens with quantum mechanics. There is a Poincare recurrence, > given by the exponential of the Euclideanized action. However, there is an > additional phase, which defines the quantum

Re: What Threshold Threat of CO2

2022-08-20 Thread John Clark
On Sat, Aug 20, 2022 at 1:54 PM Philip Benjamin wrote: *> Stalin (Marxism), Hitler (Socialism), Mussolini (Fascism), Mao etc. (all > in effect are fascists) never dealt with climate change. They were all > PAGANS * *For Darwin sake!* Pagan pagan pagan, is that really the only word you have to

Google’s New AI Learned To See In The Dark

2022-08-20 Thread John Clark
Google’s New AI Learned To See In The Dark John K ClarkSee what's on my new list at Extropolis 2mp -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group.

Re: Why Does the Universe Exist? Some Perspectives from Our Physics Project—Stephen Wolfram Writings

2022-08-18 Thread John Clark
On Thu, Aug 18, 2022 at 6:46 AM Telmo Menezes wrote: *> Of course they could have evolved some more sophisticated strategies, * Yes but the other agents could've evolved more sophisticated strategies too, and the behavior of the other agents must be considered because they are a very important

Re: Why Does the Universe Exist? Some Perspectives from Our Physics Project—Stephen Wolfram Writings

2022-08-17 Thread John Clark
On Wed, Aug 17, 2022 at 11:29 AM Telmo Menezes wrote: >> Yes we could be part of a computer simulation, but the computer >> simulating us must be operating according to physical law, unless it is >> also a simulation. But unless it's turtles all the way down eventually >> you're going to hit the

Re: Why Does the Universe Exist? Some Perspectives from Our Physics Project—Stephen Wolfram Writings

2022-08-16 Thread John Clark
On Tue, Aug 16, 2022 at 6:33 AM Lawrence Crowell < goldenfieldquaterni...@gmail.com> wrote: > The universe exists for much the same reason it is not possible to define > nothingness without paradox. Nothingness cannot exist, otherwise by its > existential nature it would be something. If

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