Re: Climate models

2014-04-17 Thread ghibbsa
On Wednesday, April 16, 2014 10:22:16 PM UTC+1, Brent wrote: On 4/16/2014 2:10 PM, LizR wrote: On 17 April 2014 07:58, Stephen Paul King step...@provensecure.comjavascript: wrote: Polygamy is common for most mammals Because most mammals don't extend their range from

Re: Climate models

2014-04-17 Thread LizR
On 18 April 2014 09:14, ghib...@gmail.com wrote: On Wednesday, April 16, 2014 10:22:16 PM UTC+1, Brent wrote: On 4/16/2014 2:10 PM, LizR wrote: On 17 April 2014 07:58, Stephen Paul King step...@provensecure.comwrote: Polygamy is common for most mammals Because most mammals

Re: Climate models

2014-04-16 Thread Bruno Marchal
-the-woman-who-has-five-husbands-and-they-are-all-brothers/ Bruno -Original Message- From: meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net To: everything-list everything-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Tue, Apr 15, 2014 12:38 pm Subject: Re: Climate models On 4/15/2014 1:59 AM, Telmo Menezes wrote: Poligamy

Re: Climate models

2014-04-16 Thread LizR
If all men were brothers, would you want your sister to marry one? (Or something like that...) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Everything List group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

Re: Climate models

2014-04-16 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 15 Apr 2014, at 18:59, meekerdb wrote: On 4/15/2014 8:34 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: Read what I wrote. Machine intelligence is not a question of brickology. Intelligence is not something which can be engineered. It is a question of exploration of some reality, and it is a question of us

Re: Climate models

2014-04-16 Thread spudboy100
-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Wed, Apr 16, 2014 3:57 am Subject: Re: Climate models If all men were brothers, would you want your sister to marry one? (Or something like that...) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Everything List group. To unsubscribe

Re: Climate models

2014-04-16 Thread spudboy100
, though, somewhere in Hugh Everett-ville. -Original Message- From: Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be To: everything-list everything-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Wed, Apr 16, 2014 3:43 am Subject: Re: Climate models On 16 Apr 2014, at 01:14, spudboy...@aol.com wrote: Pair bonding

Re: Climate models

2014-04-16 Thread LizR
On 17 April 2014 02:36, spudboy...@aol.com wrote: Some of it is motivated from females needing to survive and look after their children. How much wealth, be it hunted game, or IPO stock options. Unless the male is very wealthy, there is no advantage for the female to share a mail, Some do,

Re: Climate models

2014-04-16 Thread LizR
On 17 April 2014 02:48, spudboy...@aol.com wrote: The little boy at the math blackboard got the arithmetic wrong. The little boy turned to his teacher and said: 'Yes, it's the wrong answer, but what does it matter, if all men are brothers? -Jack Handey -- You received this message

Re: Climate models

2014-04-16 Thread Stephen Paul King
Polygamy is common for most mammals On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 3:51 PM, LizR lizj...@gmail.com wrote: On 17 April 2014 02:36, spudboy...@aol.com wrote: Some of it is motivated from females needing to survive and look after their children. How much wealth, be it hunted game, or IPO stock

Re: Climate models

2014-04-16 Thread meekerdb
On 4/16/2014 1:16 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: Yes, like in nature. The more a species is clever, the less the infant brain is hardwired, and the longer his learning period (infancy) appears to be. I see intelligence as an ability to learn and to change our mind. Adult is the phase when we apply

Re: Climate models

2014-04-16 Thread spudboy100
: Wed, Apr 16, 2014 3:51 pm Subject: Re: Climate models On 17 April 2014 02:36, spudboy...@aol.com wrote: Some of it is motivated from females needing to survive and look after their children. How much wealth, be it hunted game, or IPO stock options. Unless the male is very wealthy

Re: Climate models

2014-04-16 Thread spudboy100
God is dead-Nietzsche Nietzsche is dead-God yeah, I know, but I had to post it. -Original Message- From: meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net To: everything-list everything-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Wed, Apr 16, 2014 4:00 pm Subject: Re: Climate models On 4/16/2014 1:16

Re: Climate models

2014-04-16 Thread LizR
On 17 April 2014 07:58, Stephen Paul King stephe...@provensecure.comwrote: Polygamy is common for most mammals Because most mammals don't extend their range from Africa to the Arctic. As I said, there's a tendency towards polygamy in hot countries, but it wouldn't work for humans in cold

Re: Climate models

2014-04-16 Thread LizR
On 17 April 2014 08:24, spudboy...@aol.com wrote: I don't know genetics as well as I should, but I think, whether its psychological, or genetic psychological, or something else? If women are provided birth control, and a good deal of wealth, independent of a supplying male, then a women is

Re: Climate models

2014-04-16 Thread meekerdb
On 4/16/2014 2:10 PM, LizR wrote: On 17 April 2014 07:58, Stephen Paul King stephe...@provensecure.com mailto:stephe...@provensecure.com wrote: Polygamy is common for most mammals Because most mammals don't extend their range from Africa to the Arctic. As I said, there's a tendency

Re: Climate models

2014-04-16 Thread LizR
On 17 April 2014 09:22, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote: On 4/16/2014 2:10 PM, LizR wrote: On 17 April 2014 07:58, Stephen Paul King stephe...@provensecure.comwrote: Polygamy is common for most mammals Because most mammals don't extend their range from Africa to the Arctic.

Re: Climate models

2014-04-16 Thread spudboy100
is required to rear offspring successfully. -Original Message- From: LizR lizj...@gmail.com To: everything-list everything-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Wed, Apr 16, 2014 5:10 pm Subject: Re: Climate models On 17 April 2014 07:58, Stephen Paul King stephe...@provensecure.com wrote

Re: Climate models

2014-04-15 Thread Alberto G. Corona
Bruno, Litz and everyone: I want to say sorry form muy arrogance and disrespect. The arguments remain. El 15/04/2014 00:37, Alberto G. Corona agocor...@gmail.com escribió: 2014-04-15 0:25 GMT+02:00 LizR lizj...@gmail.com: On 15 April 2014 03:59, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote: On

Re: Climate models

2014-04-15 Thread LizR
Thank you. Could you now please state the arguments plainly, so I can see what they actually are, shorn of the arrogance and disrespect. Also I would appreciate a considered response to my arguments. ---Liz's arguments, restated for your convenience--- On top of avoiding suffering for me and

Re: Climate models

2014-04-15 Thread Telmo Menezes
On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 12:18 AM, Alberto G. Corona agocor...@gmail.comwrote: 2014-04-14 13:51 GMT+02:00 Telmo Menezes te...@telmomenezes.com: Hi Alberto, What in my reasoning steps is wrong? I find a number of problems with your reasoning: 1) You assume to know what the reproductive

Re: Climate models

2014-04-15 Thread Telmo Menezes
On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 12:44 AM, Russell Standish li...@hpcoders.com.auwrote: On Mon, Apr 14, 2014 at 01:51:22PM +0200, Telmo Menezes wrote: Hi Alberto, So who knows what our biological program looks like or how complex it is? There are compelling reasons to think that it is very

Re: Climate models

2014-04-15 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 15 Apr 2014, at 00:30, Alberto G. Corona wrote: 2014-04-14 17:59 GMT+02:00 Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be: On 14 Apr 2014, at 09:40, Alberto G. Corona wrote: 2014-04-12 19:42 GMT+02:00 Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be: No doubt on this for me. Affordable, and with good user's

Re: Climate models

2014-04-15 Thread meekerdb
On 4/15/2014 1:59 AM, Telmo Menezes wrote: Poligamy is common when big disparity of wealt, in low density coutries in harsh conditions or in societies where violence is increasing Do you thing that these conditions are in the aspirations of the civilized society?. The fact that

Re: Climate models

2014-04-15 Thread meekerdb
On 4/15/2014 8:34 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: Read what I wrote. Machine intelligence is not a question of brickology. Intelligence is not something which can be engineered. It is a question of exploration of some reality, and it is a question of us being sufficiently inetlligent to recognize

Re: Climate models

2014-04-15 Thread Stephen Paul King
This paper is the best I have seen as a method to construct a real AI: http://www.alexwg.org/publications/PhysRevLett_110-168702.pdf It is already built, it is just a matter of scaling it up But don't assume that such AI will perceive the same physical world as we do! On Tue, Apr 15, 2014

Re: Climate models

2014-04-15 Thread spudboy100
, Apr 15, 2014 12:38 pm Subject: Re: Climate models On 4/15/2014 1:59 AM, Telmo Menezes wrote: Poligamy is common when big disparity of wealt, inlow density coutries in harsh conditions

Re: Climate models

2014-04-14 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 13 Apr 2014, at 20:55, meekerdb wrote: On 4/13/2014 10:39 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 13 Apr 2014, at 01:32, meekerdb wrote: On 4/12/2014 11:30 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 12 Apr 2014, at 01:43, meekerdb wrote: On 4/11/2014 8:37 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: (2) create new race of

Re: Climate models

2014-04-14 Thread Alberto G. Corona
2014-04-12 19:42 GMT+02:00 Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be: No doubt on this for me. Affordable, and with good user's manuals. Most pregnant kids get pregnant before having has the sexual education school classes according to a recent statistics. For people like most of you, most of you

Re: Climate models

2014-04-14 Thread LizR
On 14 April 2014 19:40, Alberto G. Corona agocor...@gmail.com wrote: 2014-04-12 19:42 GMT+02:00 Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be: No doubt on this for me. Affordable, and with good user's manuals. Most pregnant kids get pregnant before having has the sexual education school classes

Re: Climate models

2014-04-14 Thread Alberto G. Corona
What in my reasoning steps is wrong? That is the typical rationalist reaction. The pride of reason that supposes that a little quantity of neurons (created by evolution) plus the little experience and desires can fix the pervasive intelligence of nature. You are ideologically sick. What you call

Re: Climate models

2014-04-14 Thread LizR
On 14 April 2014 20:42, Alberto G. Corona agocor...@gmail.com wrote: What in my reasoning steps is wrong? The bit where you said we need to listen to the inner voice. That is the typical rationalist reaction. The pride of reason that supposes that a little quantity of neurons (created by

Re: Climate models

2014-04-14 Thread Alberto G. Corona
It is clear in the reasoning. What reasoning step between contraception and the problems that is produced is wrong? it does not matter if you like it or not, if you go against your inner program ( I tell you in machine terms, that is the level that people here understand) The consequences are

Re: Climate models

2014-04-14 Thread Alberto G. Corona
So do you have anything except for ad hominems? (or feminems in this case, I suppose) By the way. Do you know what ad-hominem mean? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Everything List group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails

Re: Climate models

2014-04-14 Thread Alberto G. Corona
2014-04-14 12:47 GMT+02:00 LizR lizj...@gmail.com: On 14 April 2014 20:42, Alberto G. Corona agocor...@gmail.com wrote: What in my reasoning steps is wrong? The bit where you said we need to listen to the inner voice. The price for you to not believe the inner voice that is, going

Re: Climate models

2014-04-14 Thread LizR
On 14 April 2014 22:56, Alberto G. Corona agocor...@gmail.com wrote: So do you have anything except for ad hominems? (or feminems in this case, I suppose) By the way. Do you know what ad-hominem mean? Attacking the person rather than their arguments. Which is what you were doing. The

Re: Climate models

2014-04-14 Thread LizR
On 14 April 2014 23:01, Alberto G. Corona agocor...@gmail.com wrote: 2014-04-14 12:47 GMT+02:00 LizR lizj...@gmail.com: On 14 April 2014 20:42, Alberto G. Corona agocor...@gmail.com wrote: What in my reasoning steps is wrong? The bit where you said we need to listen to the inner voice.

Re: Climate models

2014-04-14 Thread Alberto G. Corona
Ok. forget me 2014-04-14 13:09 GMT+02:00 LizR lizj...@gmail.com: On 14 April 2014 23:01, Alberto G. Corona agocor...@gmail.com wrote: 2014-04-14 12:47 GMT+02:00 LizR lizj...@gmail.com: On 14 April 2014 20:42, Alberto G. Corona agocor...@gmail.com wrote: What in my reasoning steps is

Re: Climate models

2014-04-14 Thread Telmo Menezes
Hi Alberto, What in my reasoning steps is wrong? I find a number of problems with your reasoning: 1) You assume to know what the reproductive strategy of our species is. Darwinian evolution is a theory on how biological complexity arrises. It does not predict neither a single nor necessarily

Re: Climate models

2014-04-14 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 14 Apr 2014, at 09:40, Alberto G. Corona wrote: 2014-04-12 19:42 GMT+02:00 Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be: No doubt on this for me. Affordable, and with good user's manuals. Most pregnant kids get pregnant before having has the sexual education school classes according to a recent

Re: Climate models

2014-04-14 Thread meekerdb
On 4/14/2014 3:54 AM, Alberto G. Corona wrote: It is clear in the reasoning. What reasoning step between contraception and the problems that is produced is wrong? it does not matter if you like it or not, if you go against your inner program ( I tell you in machine terms, that is the level

Re: Climate models

2014-04-14 Thread meekerdb
On 4/14/2014 4:51 AM, Telmo Menezes wrote: 3) You assume that going against your simple reproductive program will cause suffering This is a weird assumption. Consider this: you cannot decide to stop breathing. Your brain literally won't let you. So evolution did not select breathing to be an

Re: Climate models

2014-04-14 Thread Telmo Menezes
On Mon, Apr 14, 2014 at 7:12 PM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote: On 4/14/2014 4:51 AM, Telmo Menezes wrote: 3) You assume that going against your simple reproductive program will cause suffering This is a weird assumption. Consider this: you cannot decide to stop breathing. Your brain

Re: Climate models

2014-04-14 Thread Platonist Guitar Cowboy
On Mon, Apr 14, 2014 at 8:29 PM, Telmo Menezes te...@telmomenezes.comwrote: On Mon, Apr 14, 2014 at 7:12 PM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote: On 4/14/2014 4:51 AM, Telmo Menezes wrote: 3) You assume that going against your simple reproductive program will cause suffering This is a

Re: Climate models

2014-04-14 Thread meekerdb
On 4/14/2014 11:35 AM, Platonist Guitar Cowboy wrote: On Mon, Apr 14, 2014 at 8:29 PM, Telmo Menezes te...@telmomenezes.com mailto:te...@telmomenezes.com wrote: On Mon, Apr 14, 2014 at 7:12 PM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net mailto:meeke...@verizon.net wrote: On

Re: Climate models

2014-04-14 Thread meekerdb
On 4/14/2014 12:40 AM, Alberto G. Corona wrote: 2014-04-12 19:42 GMT+02:00 Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be mailto:marc...@ulb.ac.be: No doubt on this for me. Affordable, and with good user's manuals. Most pregnant kids get pregnant before having has the sexual education school

Re: Climate models

2014-04-14 Thread Alberto G. Corona
2014-04-14 13:51 GMT+02:00 Telmo Menezes te...@telmomenezes.com: Hi Alberto, What in my reasoning steps is wrong? I find a number of problems with your reasoning: 1) You assume to know what the reproductive strategy of our species is. Darwinian evolution is a theory on how biological

Re: Climate models

2014-04-14 Thread LizR
On 15 April 2014 03:59, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote: On 14 Apr 2014, at 09:40, Alberto G. Corona wrote: 2014-04-12 19:42 GMT+02:00 Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be: No doubt on this for me. Affordable, and with good user's manuals. Most pregnant kids get pregnant before having

Re: Climate models

2014-04-14 Thread Alberto G. Corona
2014-04-14 17:59 GMT+02:00 Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be: On 14 Apr 2014, at 09:40, Alberto G. Corona wrote: 2014-04-12 19:42 GMT+02:00 Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be: No doubt on this for me. Affordable, and with good user's manuals. Most pregnant kids get pregnant before having

Re: Climate models

2014-04-14 Thread Russell Standish
On Mon, Apr 14, 2014 at 01:51:22PM +0200, Telmo Menezes wrote: Hi Alberto, So who knows what our biological program looks like or how complex it is? There are compelling reasons to think that it is very complex indeed. For example: a counter-intuitive empirical observation is that the

Re: Climate models

2014-04-14 Thread Alberto G. Corona
2014-04-15 0:25 GMT+02:00 LizR lizj...@gmail.com: On 15 April 2014 03:59, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote: On 14 Apr 2014, at 09:40, Alberto G. Corona wrote: 2014-04-12 19:42 GMT+02:00 Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be: No doubt on this for me. Affordable, and with good user's

Re: Climate models

2014-04-14 Thread LizR
On 15 April 2014 06:43, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote: On 4/14/2014 11:35 AM, Platonist Guitar Cowboy wrote: On Mon, Apr 14, 2014 at 8:29 PM, Telmo Menezes te...@telmomenezes.comwrote: On Mon, Apr 14, 2014 at 7:12 PM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote: On 4/14/2014 4:51 AM,

Re: Climate models

2014-04-14 Thread LizR
On 14 April 2014 22:54, Alberto G. Corona agocor...@gmail.com wrote: It is clear in the reasoning. What reasoning step between contraception and the problems that is produced is wrong? it does not matter if you like it or not, if you go against your inner program ( I tell you in machine

Re: Climate models

2014-04-14 Thread meekerdb
On 4/14/2014 3:30 PM, Alberto G. Corona wrote: What I said is not related with you neither with COMP neither with yes doctor or not doctor. I talk at the level of an architect. You talk as a brick-ologists. I don´t care about your substitution level. I tell you that if you don't get smart and

Re: Climate models

2014-04-14 Thread LizR
On 15 April 2014 12:51, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote: On 4/14/2014 3:30 PM, Alberto G. Corona wrote: What I said is not related with you neither with COMP neither with yes doctor or not doctor. I talk at the level of an architect. You talk as a brick-ologists. I don´t care about your

RE: Climate models

2014-04-14 Thread Chris de Morsella
From: everything-list@googlegroups.com [mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of meekerdb Sent: Monday, April 14, 2014 5:51 PM On 4/14/2014 3:30 PM, Alberto G. Corona wrote: What I said is not related with you neither with COMP neither with yes doctor or not doctor. I

RE: Climate models

2014-04-14 Thread Chris de Morsella
From: everything-list@googlegroups.com [mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of meekerdb Sent: Monday, April 14, 2014 11:48 AM To: everything-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Climate models On 4/14/2014 12:40 AM, Alberto G. Corona wrote: 2014-04-12 19:42 GMT+02:00 Bruno

RE: Climate models

2014-04-14 Thread Chris de Morsella
From: everything-list@googlegroups.com [mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of LizR Sent: Monday, April 14, 2014 6:21 PM To: everything-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Climate models On 15 April 2014 12:51, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote: On 4/14/2014 3:30 PM

Re: Climate models

2014-04-13 Thread Telmo Menezes
On Sun, Apr 13, 2014 at 1:32 AM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote: On 4/12/2014 11:30 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 12 Apr 2014, at 01:43, meekerdb wrote: On 4/11/2014 8:37 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: (2) create new race of beings, smarter and better than us, to explore the universe.

Re: Climate models

2014-04-13 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 13 Apr 2014, at 01:32, meekerdb wrote: On 4/12/2014 11:30 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 12 Apr 2014, at 01:43, meekerdb wrote: On 4/11/2014 8:37 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: (2) create new race of beings, smarter and better than us, to explore the universe. This is what we do since the

Re: Climate models

2014-04-13 Thread meekerdb
On 4/13/2014 10:39 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 13 Apr 2014, at 01:32, meekerdb wrote: On 4/12/2014 11:30 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 12 Apr 2014, at 01:43, meekerdb wrote: On 4/11/2014 8:37 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: (2) create new race of beings, smarter and better than us, to explore the

Re: Climate models

2014-04-12 Thread ghibbsa
On Thursday, April 10, 2014 11:51:34 AM UTC+1, telmo_menezes wrote: On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 4:37 AM, Stephen Paul King step...@provensecure.com javascript: wrote: Read Corona's post carefully. I did, and I find his general ideas interesting and worth considering. I don't quire

Re: Climate models

2014-04-12 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 11 Apr 2014, at 19:14, Chris de Morsella wrote: I liken abortion with abuse of hard drugs. It is not nice, but if prohibited, it still happens, but much more often, and always in worst conditions. Better to limit them by education and information, and reduce the harm by health

Re: Climate models

2014-04-12 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 12 Apr 2014, at 01:43, meekerdb wrote: On 4/11/2014 8:37 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: (2) create new race of beings, smarter and better than us, to explore the universe. This is what we do since the beginnings. We are them. The distinction between artificial and natural is artificial. I

Re: Climate models

2014-04-12 Thread meekerdb
What's amusing is that he starts off as though he is going to tell us some great general truth - but then immediately falls into a polemic against abortion. And it is doubly amusing because every criticism he makes applies to his favorite organization, the Roman Catholic Church. Brent On

Re: Climate models

2014-04-12 Thread meekerdb
On 4/12/2014 11:30 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 12 Apr 2014, at 01:43, meekerdb wrote: On 4/11/2014 8:37 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: (2) create new race of beings, smarter and better than us, to explore the universe. This is what we do since the beginnings. We are them. The distinction

Re: Climate models

2014-04-11 Thread spudboy100
To: everything-list everything-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Thu, Apr 10, 2014 8:34 pm Subject: Re: Climate models On 11 April 2014 06:45, spudboy...@aol.com wrote: Feminism I am ok with because equal pay for equal work. As an element of Marxism it sucks, but otherwise its good. Actually Marxism

Re: Climate models

2014-04-11 Thread spudboy100
on the Moon so you can crow about how you've won the space race was just a big publicity stunt. -Original Message- From: LizR lizj...@gmail.com To: everything-list everything-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Thu, Apr 10, 2014 8:24 pm Subject: Re: Climate models On 11 April 2014 06:45

Re: Climate models

2014-04-11 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 10 Apr 2014, at 19:09, meekerdb wrote: On 4/10/2014 8:55 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 10 Apr 2014, at 12:51, Telmo Menezes wrote: On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 4:37 AM, Stephen Paul King stephe...@provensecure.com wrote: Read Corona's post carefully. I did, and I find his general ideas

Re: Climate models

2014-04-11 Thread Bruno Marchal
everything-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Thu, Apr 10, 2014 11:53 am Subject: Re: Climate models On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 5:10 PM, Alberto G. Corona agocor...@gmail.com wrote: By the way, because it seems that you are interested, rejection of gays by men will never ever change

Re: Climate models

2014-04-11 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 11 Apr 2014, at 03:08, Chris de Morsella wrote: From: LizR lizj...@gmail.com To: everything-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2014 11:43 PM Subject: Re: Climate models On 11 April 2014 11:41, Telmo Menezes te...@telmomenezes.com wrote: On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 4:59 PM

Re: Climate models

2014-04-11 Thread spudboy100
-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Fri, Apr 11, 2014 12:32 pm Subject: Re: Climate models On 10 Apr 2014, at 20:45, spudboy...@aol.com wrote: The Russians have continued space travel and so have the Chinese. The Progressive BHO administration is disinterested, by in large, with space stuff

Re: Climate models

2014-04-11 Thread meekerdb
On 4/11/2014 8:37 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: (2) create new race of beings, smarter and better than us, to explore the universe. This is what we do since the beginnings. We are them. The distinction between artificial and natural is artificial. I deliberately avoided writing 'artificial

Re: Climate models

2014-04-11 Thread Chris de Morsella
From: Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be To: everything-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, April 11, 2014 5:19 PM Subject: Re: Climate models On 11 Apr 2014, at 03:08, Chris de Morsella wrote: From: LizR lizj

Re: Climate models

2014-04-10 Thread Telmo Menezes
On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 7:48 AM, Chris de Morsella cdemorse...@yahoo.comwrote: *From:* everything-list@googlegroups.com [mailto: everything-list@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Telmo Menezes Maybe I'm a bit soft because my cat, that lived 12 years with me, died recently. As long

Re: Climate models

2014-04-10 Thread Telmo Menezes
On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 4:37 AM, Stephen Paul King stephe...@provensecure.com wrote: Read Corona's post carefully. I did, and I find his general ideas interesting and worth considering. I don't quire agree that space exploration cannot compete with religion. When I was growing up, I was

Re: Climate models

2014-04-10 Thread Alberto G. Corona
sex orientation can not be changed, neither a matrimony can be other than a man and a woman, neither climate can be changed by little ants like us, neither internationalism can be a genuine feeling, neither supranational identities can be fabricated, neither woman can live without depending on

Re: Climate models

2014-04-10 Thread Alberto G. Corona
By the way, because it seems that you are interested, rejection of gays by men will never ever change. There are compelling evolitionary reasons. If any, the current promotion of gay rights will exacerbate true homophoby in the medium- long term. In the same way that feminism is increasing the

Re: Climate models

2014-04-10 Thread Stephen Paul King
Dear Telmo, Those truths that are often the hardest to learn require the most painful of lessons. On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 10:59 AM, Alberto G. Corona agocor...@gmail.comwrote: sex orientation can not be changed, neither a matrimony can be other than a man and a woman, neither climate can

Re: Climate models

2014-04-10 Thread Platonist Guitar Cowboy
On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 5:10 PM, Alberto G. Corona agocor...@gmail.comwrote: By the way, because it seems that you are interested, rejection of gays by men will never ever change. There are compelling evolitionary reasons. If any, the current promotion of gay rights will exacerbate true

Re: Climate models

2014-04-10 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 10 Apr 2014, at 12:51, Telmo Menezes wrote: On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 4:37 AM, Stephen Paul King stephe...@provensecure.com wrote: Read Corona's post carefully. I did, and I find his general ideas interesting and worth considering. I don't quire agree that space exploration cannot

RE: Climate models

2014-04-10 Thread Chris de Morsella
From: everything-list@googlegroups.com [mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alberto G. Corona Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2014 8:10 AM To: everything-list Subject: Re: Climate models By the way, because it seems that you are interested, rejection of gays by men

Re: Climate models

2014-04-10 Thread Richard Ruquist
The Swiss where many, very many as I understand it, young men are bisexual, seems to argue to the contrary... Seems they found out that sex is sex and for a man to love it must be based on sex. On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 11:10 AM, Alberto G. Corona agocor...@gmail.comwrote: By the way, because it

Re: Climate models

2014-04-10 Thread Alberto G. Corona
Chris and Guitar, you are funny. Do you believe that these mere insults andd ad-hominem straw man etc, have any effect across internet except to laugh at you? The time of the police state enforcer of ideológicall uniformity has gone since 1995. Oh wait I know why you may need another one...

Re: Climate models

2014-04-10 Thread Stephen Paul King
Alberto, Don't feed the trolls... On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 12:28 PM, Alberto G. Corona agocor...@gmail.comwrote: Chris and Guitar, you are funny. Do you believe that these mere insults andd ad-hominem straw man etc, have any effect across internet except to laugh at you? The time of

Re: Climate models

2014-04-10 Thread Quentin Anciaux
2014-04-10 18:28 GMT+02:00 Alberto G. Corona agocor...@gmail.com: Chris and Guitar, you are funny. Do you believe that these mere insults andd ad-hominem straw man etc, have any effect across internet except to laugh at you? Who's the one insulting ? You are certainly blind to your own

Re: Climate models

2014-04-10 Thread Alberto G. Corona
Stephen hehehe. Ok I will not. Reality can fight alone and will win inevitably against the ones that deny it. The problem is the price to pay in the process 2014-04-10 18:38 GMT+02:00 Stephen Paul King stephe...@provensecure.com: Alberto, Don't feed the trolls... On Thu, Apr 10,

Re: Climate models

2014-04-10 Thread Stephen Paul King
Dear Alberto, Cost is always an issue. It cannot be avoided (contra the belief of magical thinkers) but it can be minimized by increasing the efficiency of systems. On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 12:48 PM, Alberto G. Corona agocor...@gmail.comwrote: Stephen hehehe. Ok I will not. Reality can

Re: Climate models

2014-04-10 Thread meekerdb
On 4/10/2014 7:59 AM, Alberto G. Corona wrote: sex orientation can not be changed, neither a matrimony can be other than a man and a woman, neither climate can be changed by little ants like us, neither internationalism can be a genuine feeling, neither supranational identities can be

Re: Climate models

2014-04-10 Thread meekerdb
On 4/10/2014 8:55 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 10 Apr 2014, at 12:51, Telmo Menezes wrote: On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 4:37 AM, Stephen Paul King stephe...@provensecure.com mailto:stephe...@provensecure.com wrote: Read Corona's post carefully. I did, and I find his general ideas

Re: Climate models

2014-04-10 Thread spudboy100
, 2014 11:53 am Subject: Re: Climate models On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 5:10 PM, Alberto G. Corona agocor...@gmail.com wrote: By the way, because it seems that you are interested, rejection of gays by men will never ever change. There are compelling evolitionary reasons. If any, the current

Re: Climate models

2014-04-10 Thread LizR
On 11 April 2014 02:59, Alberto G. Corona agocor...@gmail.com wrote: sex orientation can not be changed, neither a matrimony can be other than a man and a woman, neither climate can be changed by little ants like us, neither internationalism can be a genuine feeling, neither supranational

Re: Climate models

2014-04-10 Thread Alberto G. Corona
If you are a woman that aborted, you know how much you suffered and probably are suffering. I´m very sorry 2014-04-10 22:05 GMT+02:00 LizR lizj...@gmail.com: On 11 April 2014 02:59, Alberto G. Corona agocor...@gmail.com wrote: sex orientation can not be changed, neither a matrimony can be

Re: Climate models

2014-04-10 Thread LizR
On 11 April 2014 08:33, Alberto G. Corona agocor...@gmail.com wrote: If you are a woman that aborted, you know how much you suffered and probably are suffering. I´m very sorry Yes, I suffered a bit, at the time, mostly emotionally - but now I'm just utterly thankful I made the right decision.

Re: Climate models

2014-04-10 Thread Russell Standish
On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 10:33:54PM +0200, Alberto G. Corona wrote: If you are a woman that aborted, you know how much you suffered and probably are suffering. I´m very sorry This is an overt generalisation. A number of women have confided with me about their abortions - some have described

Re: Climate models

2014-04-10 Thread meekerdb
On 4/10/2014 3:41 PM, Russell Standish wrote: On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 10:33:54PM +0200, Alberto G. Corona wrote: If you are a woman that aborted, you know how much you suffered and probably are suffering. I´m very sorry This is an overt generalisation. A number of women have confided with me

Re: Climate models

2014-04-10 Thread Telmo Menezes
On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 5:55 PM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote: On 10 Apr 2014, at 12:51, Telmo Menezes wrote: On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 4:37 AM, Stephen Paul King stephe...@provensecure.com wrote: Read Corona's post carefully. I did, and I find his general ideas interesting

Re: Climate models

2014-04-10 Thread LizR
On 11 April 2014 11:04, Telmo Menezes te...@telmomenezes.com wrote: On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 5:55 PM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote: On 10 Apr 2014, at 12:51, Telmo Menezes wrote: But back to the gay issue. If the assumption is that gay promotion is part of a strategy to reduce the

Re: Climate models

2014-04-10 Thread Telmo Menezes
On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 4:59 PM, Alberto G. Corona agocor...@gmail.comwrote: sex orientation can not be changed, neither a matrimony can be other than a man and a woman, If you insist on that definition of the word, I don't really care. I am married, but if it became generally accepted that

Re: Climate models

2014-04-10 Thread LizR
On 11 April 2014 11:41, Telmo Menezes te...@telmomenezes.com wrote: On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 4:59 PM, Alberto G. Corona agocor...@gmail.comwrote: sex orientation can not be changed, neither a matrimony can be other than a man and a woman, If you insist on that definition of the word, I

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