Re: Digest for everything-list@googlegroups.com - 4 updates in 1 topic

2015-01-20 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 19 Jan 2015, at 21:28, meekerdb wrote: On 1/19/2015 9:10 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: But existence only in the mathematical sense which is tautological; i.e. implicit in some axioms, Then all theories are tautological. But the evidence for them is not only tautological. Exactly.

Re: Digest for everything-list@googlegroups.com - 4 updates in 1 topic

2015-01-19 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 19 Jan 2015, at 08:24, meekerdb wrote: On 1/18/2015 9:49 PM, Jason Resch wrote: On Sun, Jan 18, 2015 at 9:34 PM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote: On 1/18/2015 7:00 PM, Jason Resch wrote: On Sun, Jan 18, 2015 at 6:26 PM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote: On 1/15/2015 6:35

Re: Digest for everything-list@googlegroups.com - 4 updates in 1 topic

2015-01-19 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 19 Jan 2015, at 01:26, meekerdb wrote: On 1/15/2015 6:35 PM, Jason Resch wrote: snip 3. Do you think the existence of such a demi-god follows from the UDA/arithmetical realism? This is a tricky question, and probably an open problem. Empirically it is also difficult. Well, by

Re: Digest for everything-list@googlegroups.com - 4 updates in 1 topic

2015-01-19 Thread Bruno Marchal
To: everything-list everything-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Thu, Jan 15, 2015 1:00 pm Subject: Re: Digest for everything-list@googlegroups.com - 4 updates in 1 topic Yes On Jan 15, 2015 12:55 PM, everything-list@googlegroups.com wrote: everything-list@googlegroups.comGoogle Groups Topic

Re: Digest for everything-list@googlegroups.com - 4 updates in 1 topic

2015-01-19 Thread Bruno Marchal
got the idea from Dawkins, actually. -Original Message- From: Ronald Held ronaldh...@gmail.com To: everything-list everything-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Thu, Jan 15, 2015 1:00 pm Subject: Re: Digest for everything-list@googlegroups.com - 4 updates in 1 topic Yes On Jan 15, 2015 12

Re: Digest for everything-list@googlegroups.com - 4 updates in 1 topic

2015-01-19 Thread Bruno Marchal
...@verizon.net To: everything-list everything-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Sun, Jan 18, 2015 7:26 pm Subject: Re: Digest for everything-list@googlegroups.com - 4 updates in 1 topic On 1/15/2015 6:35 PM, Jason Resch wrote: On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 6:01 PM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote: How

Re: Digest for everything-list@googlegroups.com - 4 updates in 1 topic

2015-01-19 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 19 Jan 2015, at 04:00, Jason Resch wrote: On Sun, Jan 18, 2015 at 6:26 PM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote: On 1/15/2015 6:35 PM, Jason Resch wrote: On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 6:01 PM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote: How would you define intelligence for this thing?

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2015-01-19 Thread spudboy100 via Everything List
false memories. Mitch -Original Message- From: Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be To: everything-list everything-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Mon, Jan 19, 2015 11:30 am Subject: Re: Digest for everything-list@googlegroups.com - 4 updates in 1 topic On 15 Jan 2015, at 21:49, spudboy100

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2015-01-19 Thread meekerdb
On 1/19/2015 9:10 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: But existence only in the mathematical sense which is tautological; i.e. implicit in some axioms, Then all theories are tautological. But the evidence for them is not only tautological. Brent -- You received this message because you are

Re: Digest for everything-list@googlegroups.com - 4 updates in 1 topic

2015-01-18 Thread Jason Resch
On Sun, Jan 18, 2015 at 6:26 PM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote: On 1/15/2015 6:35 PM, Jason Resch wrote: On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 6:01 PM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote: How would you define intelligence for this thing? Jupiter Brain / Omega Point / Result of

Re: Digest for everything-list@googlegroups.com - 4 updates in 1 topic

2015-01-18 Thread Jason Resch
On Sun, Jan 18, 2015 at 9:34 PM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote: On 1/18/2015 7:00 PM, Jason Resch wrote: On Sun, Jan 18, 2015 at 6:26 PM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote: On 1/15/2015 6:35 PM, Jason Resch wrote: On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 6:01 PM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net

Re: Digest for everything-list@googlegroups.com - 4 updates in 1 topic

2015-01-18 Thread meekerdb
On 1/18/2015 7:00 PM, Jason Resch wrote: On Sun, Jan 18, 2015 at 6:26 PM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net mailto:meeke...@verizon.net wrote: On 1/15/2015 6:35 PM, Jason Resch wrote: On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 6:01 PM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net mailto:meeke...@verizon.net

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2015-01-18 Thread meekerdb
On 1/18/2015 9:49 PM, Jason Resch wrote: On Sun, Jan 18, 2015 at 9:34 PM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net mailto:meeke...@verizon.net wrote: On 1/18/2015 7:00 PM, Jason Resch wrote: On Sun, Jan 18, 2015 at 6:26 PM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net mailto:meeke...@verizon.net

Re: Digest for everything-list@googlegroups.com - 4 updates in 1 topic

2015-01-18 Thread meekerdb
On 1/15/2015 6:35 PM, Jason Resch wrote: On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 6:01 PM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net mailto:meeke...@verizon.net wrote: How would you define intelligence for this thing? Jupiter Brain / Omega Point / Result of post-singularity intelligence explosion / Platonic mind

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2015-01-18 Thread spudboy100 via Everything List
- From: meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net To: everything-list everything-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Sun, Jan 18, 2015 7:26 pm Subject: Re: Digest for everything-list@googlegroups.com - 4 updates in 1 topic On 1/15/2015 6:35 PM, Jason Resch wrote

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2015-01-17 Thread Jason Resch
1:00 pm Subject: Re: Digest for everything-list@googlegroups.com - 4 updates in 1 topic Yes On Jan 15, 2015 12:55 PM, everything-list@googlegroups.com wrote: everything-list@googlegroups.com https://groups.google.com/forum/?utm_source=digestutm_medium=email#%21forum/everything-list

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2015-01-16 Thread spudboy100 via Everything List
, Jan 15, 2015 7:01 pm Subject: Re: Digest for everything-list@googlegroups.com - 4 updates in 1 topic How would you define intelligence for this thing? I think of intelligence as the ability to observe and infer and learn. Of course the traditional God was not only

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2015-01-15 Thread Ronald Held
Yes On Jan 15, 2015 12:55 PM, everything-list@googlegroups.com wrote: everything-list@googlegroups.com https://groups.google.com/forum/?utm_source=digestutm_medium=email#!forum/everything-list/topics Google Groups

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2015-01-15 Thread Jason Resch
On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 2:49 PM, spudboy100 via Everything List everything-list@googlegroups.com wrote: Bruno, what of a super modern theology that removes God as someone who can be reached by prayer, but an actual intelligence in the universe? I got the idea from Dawkins, actually. A

Re: Digest for everything-list@googlegroups.com - 4 updates in 1 topic

2015-01-15 Thread meekerdb
: Thu, Jan 15, 2015 1:00 pm Subject: Re: Digest for everything-list@googlegroups.com - 4 updates in 1 topic Yes On Jan 15, 2015 12:55 PM, everything-list@googlegroups.com mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com wrote: everything-list@googlegroups.com https://groups.google.com/forum

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2015-01-15 Thread spudboy100 via Everything List
@googlegroups.com Sent: Thu, Jan 15, 2015 1:00 pm Subject: Re: Digest for everything-list@googlegroups.com - 4 updates in 1 topic Yes On Jan 15, 2015 12:55 PM, everything-list@googlegroups.com wrote: everything-list@googlegroups.com

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2015-01-15 Thread Jason Resch
everything-list@googlegroups.com everything-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Thu, Jan 15, 2015 1:00 pm Subject: Re: Digest for everything-list@googlegroups.com - 4 updates in 1 topic Yes On Jan 15, 2015 12:55 PM, everything-list@googlegroups.com wrote: everything-list@googlegroups.com https

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2015-01-15 Thread Russell Standish
On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 04:01:36PM -0800, meekerdb wrote: How would you define intelligence for this thing? I think of intelligence as the ability to observe and infer and learn. Of course the traditional God was not only the creator of everything He was also a person who knew everything and