On 11/8/2013 12:10 AM, Chris de Morsella wrote:
Ending the era of Prohibition will not mean kids will start smoking pot Hint they
already are, and have been for a long time. Ending this dark era of Prohibition will
mean that the greatest illicit funding engine ever devised will shut down
On 11/8/2013 2:34 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
I read a paper arguing in that direction, showing that Jordanian have much less tryanny
thanks to the absence of oil.
That makes sense. It is easier to do that type of business with Tyrant, than with
elected people.
Sure, in political theory it's
On 11/8/2013 5:48 PM, spudboy...@aol.com wrote:
If you hold the Rational Optimist view aka Matt Ridley, people will act altruistic much
more, if they get a reward, then in they get jack. A dictatorship of your own preference
is suitable for many, but not for most. Plus, think about pure
On 11/8/2013 5:48 PM, spudboy...@aol.com wrote:
If you hold the Rational Optimist view aka Matt Ridley, people will act altruistic much
more, if they get a reward, then in they get jack. A dictatorship of your own preference
is suitable for many, but not for most. Plus, think about pure
On 9 November 2013 14:48, spudboy...@aol.com wrote:
If you hold the Rational Optimist view aka Matt Ridley, people will act
altruistic much more, if they get a reward, then in they get jack. A
dictatorship of your own preference is suitable for many, but not for most.
Plus, think about pure
Demon-Haunted World
On 11/8/2013 12:10 AM, Chris de Morsella wrote:
Ending the era of Prohibition will not mean kids will start smoking pot..
Hint they already are, and have been for a long time. Ending this dark era
of Prohibition will mean that the greatest illicit funding engine ever
devised
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On 11/8/2013 2:34 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
I read a paper arguing in that direction, showing that Jordanian have much
less tryanny thanks to the absence of oil.
That makes sense. It is easier to do that type of business with Tyrant, than
with elected
On 11/8/2013 8:00 PM, Chris de Morsella wrote:
Perhaps you may not know that opiates were given to infants in the Victorian era to calm
them down -- and yes it did keep them quiet and happy (until they required another fix
of that special syrup... hehe).
But did they have a right to it?
On 9 November 2013 17:12, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
So why complain about the opium trade.
As far as I am aware this is still prohibited, which causes the existence
of black markets.
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Perhaps you may
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On 11/6/2013 12:58 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
There is nothing wrong being rich, unless
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On 7 November 2013 14:39, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
There's a continuum of behavior which at the extreme absence of
empathy we call psychopathy or sociopathy. But that doesn't mean
more empathy is better. Sometimes
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On 7 November 2013 13:19, spudboy...@aol.com wrote:
Liz i do not see joe average in any nation state in charge or influencing
anything. It seems to all sort
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BHO is barrack hussein obama, BHO. Government goodies dependency does this for
them
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BHO is barrack hussein obama, BHO. Government goodies
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On 6 November 2013 16:41, Chris de Morsella cdemorse...@yahoo.com wrote:
And also distinguish Fascism from Communism. The former is bound to
nationalism as its core bonding
Not in China, not in Russia, the US and the UK, for sure.
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Whistleblowers are generally joe average
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Fur sure, that was the truth. Now we got's shale gas, which seems to pay a
lot better, is safer to go after, and is cleaner, carbon-wise. Unless you
are buying
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It sounds like you are reading straight form a shale play company press
release. You have been sucked up by the hype of America “the next Saudi
Arabia
On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 9:50 AM, spudboy...@aol.com wrote:
Fur sure, that was the truth. Now we got's shale gas, which seems to pay a
lot better, is safer to go after, and is cleaner, carbon-wise. Unless you
are buying into technological unemployment (robots, software) then we have
to face the
Those plucky Canadians -- as you term them -- are criminally destroying vast
swaths of Alberta turning it into a poisoned chemical saturated moonscape as
well as sucking up vast amounts of water from other potential uses -- including
agriculture. Will the bitumen sweated out of that sand be
this, we deny our own humanity.
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On 06 Nov 2013, at 17:45
On 11/6/2013 6:42 PM, Chris de Morsella wrote:
Either all humans enjoy human rights or none do.
Human rights are a human invention.
As soon as a class of persons is created that are stripped of their basic human rights
society is on a slippery slope down into the dark hell of
On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 11:12 PM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
On 11/6/2013 6:42 PM, Chris de Morsella wrote:
Either all humans enjoy human rights or none do.
Human rights are a human invention.
As soon as a class of persons is created that are stripped of their basic
human rights
On 11/7/2013 2:47 PM, Telmo Menezes wrote:
On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 11:12 PM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
On 11/6/2013 6:42 PM, Chris de Morsella wrote:
Either all humans enjoy human rights or none do.
Human rights are a human invention.
As soon as a class of persons is created that
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On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 9:50 AM, lt;spudboy...@aol.comgt; wrote:
Fur sure, that was the truth. Now we got's shale gas, which seems to
pay
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Those plucky Canadians -- as you term them -- are criminally destroying
vast swaths of Alberta turning it into a poisoned chemical saturated
moonscape as well as sucking up vast amounts of water from other
potential uses -- including agriculture
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Either all humans
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Not to be sarcastic, but probably yes
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On 11/7/2013 9:57 PM, Chris de Morsella wrote:
So if Florida repeals it's law giving the right to stand your ground, we will all be
living in a tyranny?
I am not sure I get the point you are trying to make? As far as it matter my opinion on
stand your ground laws and those who advocate for
On 06 Nov 2013, at 02:43, LizR wrote:
On 6 November 2013 14:38, spudboy...@aol.com wrote:
We could offer a 20 or 100 billion dollar prize for a new clean
energy source and award the winner. The contestents would have to
get bank or private equity funding to accomplish this. We can do the
On 11/6/2013 12:58 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
There is nothing wrong being rich, unless the money is stolen money, and that's the case
today.
There's nothing morally wrong with being rich, but it creates an ethical problem. Being
much wealthier than others bestows a lot of power. If there
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On 6 November 2013 17:10, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
On 11/5/2013 8:03 PM, Chris de Morsella
I guess it's impossible to avoid these discussions. Maybe we should
create everything-politics?
I will reply with my apologies to Craig, with whom I cut-off a
political discussion earlier.
On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 5:25 PM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
On 11/6/2013 12:58 AM, Bruno Marchal
BS: In my view, the path to more democracy is less government, and more
voting with money.
On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 12:12 PM, Telmo Menezes te...@telmomenezes.comwrote:
I guess it's impossible to avoid these discussions. Maybe we should
create everything-politics?
I will reply with my
On 7 November 2013 07:13, Richard Ruquist yann...@gmail.com wrote:
BS: In my view, the path to more democracy is less government, and more
voting with money.
That is definitely not the path to more democracy. It is, by definition,
the path to a plutocracy.
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On 06 Nov 2013, at 17:25, meekerdb wrote:
On 11/6/2013 12:58 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
There is nothing wrong being rich, unless the money is stolen
money, and that's the case today.
There's nothing morally wrong with being rich, but it creates an
ethical problem. Being much wealthier
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In the near future who knows… you may breath in some nano dust
On 7 November 2013 05:45, Chris de Morsella cdemorse...@yahoo.com wrote:
There is not going to be any revolution here… not for a long while. The
owners of America have everything under control and the peasants believe
they are a bunch of free birds.
That's the point. That's why it's more
5, 2013 8:58 pm
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The ideas had better be convincing because we don't have unlimited time
to sort out the mess the world is in thanks to the 'tragedy of the
commons.
On 6 November 2013 14:56, lt;spudboy...@aol.comgt; wrote:
Well that's a challenge
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On 6 November 2013 14:44, lt;spudboy...@aol.comgt; wrote:
Marxists like BHO want people taken care of. They also want people
dependent on government servicesnso they, the pols, can have control
over
the internet can be better used for bringing people together to
problem solve?
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And also distinguish Fascism from Communism. The former is bound to
nationalism as its core bonding principle; whereas communism had an
internationalist dimension and framed its core binding arguments in
terms of
class... the workers of the world unite rhetoric
On 7 November 2013 13:19, spudboy...@aol.com wrote:
Liz i do not see joe average in any nation state in charge or influencing
anything. It seems to all sort of a plutocracy with some social benefits
if ones income is low.
Well Jo Average has a certain influence. Various govt policies have
On 7 November 2013 13:23, spudboy...@aol.com wrote:
BHO is barrack hussein obama, BHO. Government goodies dependency does this
for them. Piss them off and they can take it away. Thats leverage. To a
private company, you can tell them to go screw themselves.
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We -- all of us really and almost without break for all history -- suffer
under misrule by organized psychopaths who invariably control the vertices
of power and use it to ensure that they remain in power, long term.
But no matter -- MWI -- there
On 11/6/2013 4:23 PM, spudboy...@aol.com wrote:
BHO is barrack hussein obama, BHO. Government goodies dependency does this for them.
Piss them off and they can take it away. Thats leverage. To a private company, you can
tell them to go screw themselves.
?? A private company isn't gonna give
On 7 November 2013 14:39, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
There's a continuum of behavior which at the extreme absence of empathy we
call psychopathy or sociopathy. But that doesn't mean more empathy is
better. Sometimes it's good to be hard hearted. Should we have been nicer
to the
Marchal
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There is not going to be any revolution here. not for a long while. The
owners
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On 7 November 2013 14:39, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
There's
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On 7 November 2013 14:39, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
There's a continuum of behavior which at the extreme absence of empathy
we call psychopathy or sociopathy
Oh all right, I'll do it.
On 7 November 2013 16:18, Samiya Illias samiyaill...@gmail.com wrote:
Modifying the DNA to fix psycopaths sounds promising, but going with the
assumption that the world is controlled by psycopaths, what if they control
the biotechnology and create Frankesteins
Whistleblowers are generally joe average types and they have had
considerable influence.
On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 7:40 PM, LizR lizj...@gmail.com wrote:
On 7 November 2013 13:19, spudboy...@aol.com wrote:
Liz i do not see joe average in any nation state in charge or influencing
anything. It
On 11/6/2013 6:32 PM, Chris de Morsella wrote:
The problem of any system ever devised is that eventually it will become corrupted --
through one path or another corruption will become endemic and increasingly it will
parasitize the system until eventually the empty husk of the hollowed out
On 7 November 2013 16:30, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
On 11/6/2013 6:18 PM, LizR wrote:
On 7 November 2013 14:39, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
There's a continuum of behavior which at the extreme absence of empathy
we call psychopathy or sociopathy. But that doesn't mean
On 7 November 2013 16:39, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
On 11/6/2013 6:32 PM, Chris de Morsella wrote:
The problem of any system ever devised is that eventually it will become
corrupted – through one path or another corruption will become endemic and
increasingly it will parasitize
On 11/6/2013 6:57 PM, Chris de Morsella wrote:
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On 7 November 2013
On 11/6/2013 7:40 PM, LizR wrote:
On 7 November 2013 16:30, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net mailto:meeke...@verizon.net
wrote:
On 11/6/2013 6:18 PM, LizR wrote:
On 7 November 2013 14:39, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net
mailto:meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
There's a continuum of
On 11/6/2013 7:44 PM, LizR wrote:
On 7 November 2013 16:39, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net mailto:meeke...@verizon.net
wrote:
On 11/6/2013 6:32 PM, Chris de Morsella wrote:
The problem of any system ever devised is that eventually it will become
corrupted
– through one path or
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Modifying the DNA to fix psycopaths sounds promising, but going
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On 11/6/2013 6:18 PM, LizR wrote:
On 7 November 2013 14:39
On 7 November 2013 17:11, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
On 11/6/2013 7:44 PM, LizR wrote:
On 7 November 2013 16:39, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
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The problem of any system ever devised is that eventually it will
become
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The problem of any
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On 11/6/2013 6:57 PM, Chris de Morsella wrote:
From
On 11/6/2013 9:58 PM, LizR wrote:
On 7 November 2013 17:11, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net mailto:meeke...@verizon.net
wrote:
On 11/6/2013 7:44 PM, LizR wrote:
On 7 November 2013 16:39, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net
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On 11/6/2013 6:32 PM,
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On 06 Nov 2013, at 17:45, Chris de Morsella wrote
On 11/6/2013 10:13 PM, Chris de Morsella wrote:
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On 11/6/2013 6
On 7 November 2013 19:52, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
There is no out of the system.
A Medieval Prince, and a Medieval peasant, would have agreed, yet we seem
to have jumped out of that system, at least in some parts of the world.
I'm suggesting we look at the UP. How did systems
On 7 November 2013 20:06, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
How about incidence of violence, c.f. Steven Pinker's The Better Angels
of Our Nature. Or the below-replacement birthrate throughout most of the
OECD. How about the fall of communist totalitarianism in Russia and
China. The
On 11/6/2013 11:08 PM, LizR wrote:
On 7 November 2013 19:52, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net mailto:meeke...@verizon.net
wrote:
There is no out of the system.
A Medieval Prince, and a Medieval peasant, would have agreed, yet we seem to have jumped
out of that system, at least in some
On 11/6/2013 11:10 PM, LizR wrote:
There have always been problems and every generation has had its
doomsayers. I
think the monopolization of power is hardly even a problem. Do you want
to run
the government? I certainly don't. I'm thankful there are people who want
the damn
On 7 November 2013 20:23, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
But that just means you have to start over with new systems and try to
make them last longer.
Well that was what I was saying about how in the past civilisations have
risen and fallen. That's how it used to happen - but having a
You mean there haven't been enough people wanting it yet? (There have been
a lot of protests and demos and so on, but I assume not enough as yet, in
your opinion?)
On 7 November 2013 20:25, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
On 11/6/2013 11:10 PM, LizR wrote:
There have always been
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On 11/6/2013 10:13 PM, Chris de Morsella wrote:
From
Regarding government totalitarianism in Nazi terms: Carl Schmitt reasoned
that corporations have the potential to become states. If the government
doesn't keep their authority in check, they will enslave people and
government through market influence.
We're perhaps still running dominance over
On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 1:52 PM, Platonist Guitar Cowboy
multiplecit...@gmail.com wrote:
Regarding government totalitarianism in Nazi terms: Carl Schmitt reasoned
that corporations have the potential to become states. If the government
doesn't keep their authority in check, they will enslave
In the meantime, the corporates are doing their best to enslave world via
the internet...
http://readersupportednews.org/opinion2/298-185/20253-focus-were-about-to-lose-net-neutrality-and-the-internet-as-we-know-it
On 6 November 2013 02:24, Telmo Menezes te...@telmomenezes.com wrote:
On Tue,
The so-called Deep Net is according to this last issue of Wired is
many times bigger than the Internet we all know
and apparently almost impenetrable.
Perhaps we will all switch
to the Deep Net
http://www.rogerdavies.com/2011/06/dark-internet/
On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 4:26 PM, LizR
Hi Richard,
On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 11:34 PM, Richard Ruquist yann...@gmail.com wrote:
The so-called Deep Net is according to this last issue of Wired is
many times bigger than the Internet we all know
and apparently almost impenetrable.
Perhaps we will all switch
to the Deep Net
Ah yes I've heard of that. Well it's the classic response to prohibition,
isn't it, to figuratively go underground?
On 6 November 2013 11:34, Richard Ruquist yann...@gmail.com wrote:
The so-called Deep Net is according to this last issue of Wired is
many times bigger than the Internet we all
On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 10:26 PM, LizR lizj...@gmail.com wrote:
In the meantime, the corporates are doing their best to enslave world via
the internet...
http://readersupportednews.org/opinion2/298-185/20253-focus-were-about-to-lose-net-neutrality-and-the-internet-as-we-know-it
Net neutrality
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Ah, good point. I have even seen The Resistible Rise of Arturo Ui. I
should have remembered.
So basically America (and various other Western democracies) currently
have fascist governments - the twist
capitalism in american politics.
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Regarding government totalitarianism in Nazi terms: Carl Schmitt
with their rule. I am no different in this.
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In the meantime, the corporates are doing their best to enslave world
via
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