the proposition may be true.
Could anyone LIST the benefits of 'national' existence/feeling?
(Forget about the secondaries: mother tongue, folk-music, lit, etc.)
JM
Well said John!
Just like religions, nations are an artefact from an era when there
wasn't anything better to scaffold civilisation
On 01 May 2013, at 00:19, Alberto G. Corona wrote:
Telmo said:
Just like religions, nations are an artefact from an era when there
wasn't anything better to scaffold civilisation. They are becoming
especially ridiculous in the Internet age.
Telmo I often agree with you, but I can not avoid
said:
Just like religions, nations are an artefact from an era when there
wasn't anything better to scaffold civilisation. They are becoming
especially ridiculous in the Internet age.
Telmo I often agree with you, but I can not avoid to smail at this. Religion
is not something outside the man
On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 2:37 PM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote:
On 01 May 2013, at 00:19, Alberto G. Corona wrote:
Telmo said:
*Just like religions, nations are an artefact from an era when there
wasn't anything better to scaffold civilisation. They are becoming
especially
On 01 May 2013, at 16:00, Platonist Guitar Cowboy wrote:
On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 2:37 PM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be
wrote:
On 01 May 2013, at 00:19, Alberto G. Corona wrote:
Telmo said:
Just like religions, nations are an artefact from an era when there
wasn't anything better
On 01 May 2013, at 15:56, Telmo Menezes wrote:
The current mainstream narrow
interpretation of science is religion in my sense.
Absolutely. It is imposed Aristotelian theology, mainly. It is dogma
and irrationalism.
It does not fit either with the facts, nor with logic+comp.
It does not
:37 PM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote:
On 01 May 2013, at 00:19, Alberto G. Corona wrote:
Telmo said:
Just like religions, nations are an artefact from an era when there
wasn't anything better to scaffold civilisation. They are becoming
especially ridiculous in the Internet age
connected with religion itself. So the proposition may be true.
Could anyone LIST the benefits of 'national' existence/feeling?
(Forget about the secondaries: mother tongue, folk-music, lit, etc.)
JM
Well said John!
Just like religions, nations are an artefact from an era when there
wasn't
Telmo said:
*Just like religions, nations are an artefact from an era when there
wasn't anything better to scaffold civilisation. They are becoming
especially ridiculous in the Internet age.*
Telmo I often agree with you, but I can not avoid to smail at this.
Religion is not something outside
On 4/30/2013 3:19 PM, Alberto G. Corona wrote:
Telmo said:
/Just like religions, nations are an artefact from an era when there
wasn't anything better to scaffold civilisation. They are becoming
especially ridiculous in the Internet age./
Telmo I often agree with you, but I can not avoid
an era when there
wasn't anything better to scaffold civilisation. They are becoming
especially ridiculous in the Internet age.
I would tolerate them better if you could migrate freely and chose the
one you like the most (in terms of laws, for example). Then they would
have to compete for citizens
:
On Wed, Apr 24, 2013 at 01:01:09PM -0400, John Clark wrote:
Even if it was true that nations die when they lose their religion that
wouldn't mean that religion tells the truth, in fact we know for a fact
that most of them are wrong because there are lots of religions and most
of
them
, torture, exploits the others.
In case of economical problems you can easily complain only on
others, and eventually start wars.
It is a common reaction of many mammals when they are put in
precarious condition, but some men can resist.
Nationalism is a form of collective solipsism
On 24 Apr 2013, at 00:10, meekerdb wrote:
On 4/23/2013 2:21 PM, John Mikes wrote:
And what good does it do to H A V E nations? Starting wars?
Looking down on every other nation? Exploiting strangers/foreigners?
Nationalism is a pest in the human world.
You are right saying that it is -
Roget told about the nation. Not about the nationalism. They have little
to do in common. In fact when natíons lose their religión, nationalism is
the sustitutive religión that takes over, most of the time, before the
nation is lost.
One thing is a nation and another is nationalism. A nation
Even if it was true that nations die when they lose their religion that
wouldn't mean that religion tells the truth, in fact we know for a fact
that most of them are wrong because there are lots of religions and most of
them contradict each other. But is it even true that religion promotes
You are conflating peace with stability.
Terren
On Wed, Apr 24, 2013 at 1:01 PM, John Clark johnkcl...@gmail.com wrote:
Even if it was true that nations die when they lose their religion that
wouldn't mean that religion tells the truth, in fact we know for a fact
that most of them are wrong
2013/4/24 John Clark johnkcl...@gmail.com
Even if it was true that nations die when they lose their religion that
wouldn't mean that religion tells the truth, in fact we know for a fact
that most of them are wrong because there are lots of religions and most of
them contradict each other
On Wed, Apr 24, 2013 at 01:01:09PM -0400, John Clark wrote:
Even if it was true that nations die when they lose their religion that
wouldn't mean that religion tells the truth, in fact we know for a fact
that most of them are wrong because there are lots of religions and most of
them
KGB Agent explains: The destruction of America from within
Nations die when they lose their religion.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABWlyt2ldKw
Dr. Roger Clough NIST (ret.) 4/22/2013
http://team.academia.edu/RogerClough
Dr. Roger Clough NIST (ret.) 4/22/2013
http
On 4/23/2013 2:21 PM, John Mikes wrote:
And what good does it do to H A V E nations? Starting wars? Looking down on every
other nation? Exploiting strangers/foreigners?
Nationalism is a pest in the human world.
You are right saying that it is - sort of - a religious aberration, closely
Former KGB Agent explains: The destruction of America from within
Nations die when they lose their religion.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABWlyt2ldKw
Dr. Roger Clough NIST (ret.) 4/22/2013
http://team.academia.edu/RogerClough
Dr. Roger Clough NIST (ret.) 4/22/2013
http
On the other hand, belief in god seems to correlate with economic collapse:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Europe_belief_in_god.svg
On Mon, Apr 22, 2013 at 8:50 PM, Roger Clough rclo...@verizon.net wrote:
Former KGB Agent explains: The destruction of America from within
Nations die when
PM, Roger Clough rclo...@verizon.net wrote:
Former KGB Agent explains: The destruction of America from within
Nations die when they lose their religion.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABWlyt2ldKw
Dr. Roger Clough NIST (ret.) 4/22/2013
http://team.academia.edu/RogerClough
Dr
an interference pattern at the photographic plate even though
the quantum wave function psi is just a mathematical expression.
Psi only converts to a particle when psi arrives at the photographic plate.
So psi is not physical, it is a mathematical solution to the particular SWE.
The only physical part
of the Schrodinger equation for the two slit experiment will
give you an interference pattern at the photographic plate even though
the quantum wave function psi is just a mathematical expression.
Psi only converts to a particle when psi arrives at the photographic plate.
So psi is not physical
Hi
1p = Firstness (an experience)
3p = Thirdness (the expression of that experience)
Comp works when 3p = 1p,
ie when Thirdness= Firstness.
[Roger Clough], [rclo...@verizon.net]
12/26/2012
Forever is a long time, especially near the end. -Woody Allen
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Matter and Form: when they are paradoxical.
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Wood is itself a matter.
Wood is itself a form, a geometrical form.
A cupboard made of wood is a real whole of form and matter.
Geometrical form and matter are 'grown together' in it.
No form exist without matter.
Nor can there be matter
2009/6/16 David Nyman david.ny...@gmail.com:
On Jun 16, 1:04 am, Stathis Papaioannou stath...@gmail.com wrote:
The only OM's you can experience are those in which your
present OM is in the subjective past.
So you are saying that - given my 'current' OM - sampling is
restricted to the set
On 15 Jun 2009, at 19:31, David Nyman wrote:
Forgive me in advance if this has been covered adequately before in
the list, but the following occurs to me with respect to 'Bostrom'
style assessments of where I should expect my 'current' OM to be
situated with respect to the total population
Forgive me in advance if this has been covered adequately before in
the list, but the following occurs to me with respect to 'Bostrom'
style assessments of where I should expect my 'current' OM to be
situated with respect to the total population of OMs in which I exist.
Presumably, I should
David,
(after having missed your posts for a long time...)
I wonder if my response will appear on the list, because lately some did not
(maybe I have mailing-list troubles, maybe some screener finds my ideas not
worthy) so with good hopes:
I had long standing discussions in the early 90s on some
an OM of high measure.
But this is not how the sampling happens. What happens is that you are
*already* an OM - obviously, if you are able to think about these
things at all. Specifically, you are a human OM of a particular age in
the 21st century on Earth. When you contemplate your future, finding
will most likely find yourself an OM of high measure.
But this is not how the sampling happens. What happens is that you are
*already* an OM - obviously, if you are able to think about these
things at all. Specifically, you are a human OM of a particular age in
the 21st century on Earth. When you
. Every OM is a now and you are in it. I put you in scare quotes
because from this viewpoint you is just some subset of OMs.
That's true but you have the illusion of being a unique individual
travelling through time in the forward direction. When we talk about
expectations for the future
will most likely find yourself an OM of high measure.
But this is not how the sampling happens. What happens is that you are
*already* an OM - obviously, if you are able to think about these
things at all. Specifically, you are a human OM of a particular age in
the 21st century on Earth. When you
Brent wrote
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Subject: RE: Functionalism and People as Programs
I think there is considerable evidence to support the view that human level
intelligence could be
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