Re: Rucker's Infinity, Tegmark's TOE, and Cantor's AbsoluteInfinity

2002-09-06 Thread Bruno Marchal
Title: Re: Rucker's Infinity, Tegmark's TOE, and Cantor's Ab Dear John, Bohm's statement is quite coherent with his philosophy. He believes in a unique material reality (although he does not believe in a wave packet reduction, particles follow only one branch of the universal superpositions,

Re: modal logic and probability

2002-09-06 Thread Bruno Marchal
Wei Dai wrote: How useful is modal logic in dealing with these unknowable and branching futures? Modal logic is the logic of possibility and necessity, but to make decisions you need to reason about probabilities rather than modalities. This is true only for the antic aristotelian alethic modal

Re: MWI, Copenhage, Randomness

2002-09-06 Thread Bruno Marchal

Re: Rucker's Infinity, Tegmark's TOE, and Cantor's AbsoluteInfinity

2002-09-06 Thread Brent Meeker
On 06-Sep-02, Bruno Marchal wrote: Dear John, Bohm's statement is quite coherent with his philosophy. He believes in a unique material reality (although he does not believe in a wave packet reduction, particles follow only one branch of the universal superpositions, with Bohm). So Bohm is

Re: Rucker's Infinity, Tegmark's TOE, and Cantor'sAbsoluteInfinity

2002-09-06 Thread Bruno Marchal
Brent Meeker wrote: Bohm's QM is empirically identical with non-relativistic Schroedinger QM - makes exactly the same predictions. So what does it have to do with AI and the duplication of brains? We (John + me) were refering to Bohm's book the implicate order where Bohm takes some non

Re: MWI, Copenhage, Randomness

2002-09-06 Thread Bruno Marchal
Jesse Mazer wrote Ok, I think I see where my mistake was. I was thinking that decoherence just referred to interactions between a system and the external environment, but what you seem to be saying is that it can also refer to an internal effect where interactions among the components

A New Start

2002-09-06 Thread Osher Doctorow
From: Osher Doctorow [EMAIL PROTECTED], Fri. Sept. 6, 2002 8:36AM After my discouragement of yesterday, I have decided to give myself one more chance to try to be compatible with everything-list. I have just downloaded J. Schmidthuber's *A computer scientist's view of life, the universe, and

Re: MWI, Copenhage, Randomness

2002-09-06 Thread Jesse Mazer
Bruno Marchal wrote: Jesse Mazer wrote Ok, I think I see where my mistake was. I was thinking that decoherence just referred to interactions between a system and the external environment, but what you seem to be saying is that it can also refer to an internal effect where interactions

Serious *Mistake* by Schmidthuber

2002-09-06 Thread Osher Doctorow
From: Osher Doctorow [EMAIL PROTECTED], Fri. Sept. 6, 2002 11:45AM I have read about half of J. Schmidthuber's *A computer scientist's view of life, the universe, and everything,* (1997), and he has interesting ideas and clarity of presentation, but I have to disagree with him on a number of

Re: Serious *Mistake* by Schmidthuber

2002-09-06 Thread Bill Jefferys
At 12:20 PM -0700 on 9/6/02, Osher Doctorow wrote: Thus, not only can conditional probability not model events of probability 0, but it cannot even model events of probability close to 0 (Rare Events). Nonsense. It's done all the time for events of low probability. Bill

Re: Schmidhuber II implies FTL communications

2002-09-06 Thread Wei Dai
On Thu, Sep 05, 2002 at 07:32:49PM -0700, Hal Finney wrote: This was an interesting paper but unfortunately the key point seemed to pass by without proof. On page 5, the proposal is to use entangled particles to try to send a signal by measuring at one end in a sequence of different bases

Re: Rucker's Infinity, Tegmark's TOE, and Cantor's Absolute Infinity

2002-09-06 Thread jamikes
Title: Re: Rucker's Infinity, Tegmark's TOE, and Cantor's Ab Bruno M wrote: Friday, September 06, 2002 11:01 AM Subject: Re: Rucker's Infinity, (or whatever) Dear John, Bohm's statement is quite coherent with his philosophy. SNIP In its "implicate order" Bohm is explicitely

Re: Rucker's Infinity, Tegmark's TOE, and Cantor's AbsoluteInfinity

2002-09-06 Thread jamikes
Brent wrote Friday, September 06, 2002 11:48 AM: (Subject: Re: Rucker's Infinity, Tegmark's TOE, and Cantor's AbsoluteInfinity - not a true subject here): On 06-Sep-02, Bruno Marchal wrote: Dear John, Bohm's statement is quite coherent with his philosophy. SNIP Bohm's QM is empirically

Re: Serious *Mistake* by Schmidthuber

2002-09-06 Thread Osher Doctorow
From: Osher Doctorow [EMAIL PROTECTED], Fri. Sept. 6, 2002 6:17PM Bill Jefferys says: Nonsense. It's done all the time for events of low probability. If *doing something all the time* is your reply to nonsense, then can I assume that not doing something is your reply to *sense*?Ah well,