Re: Gravity Carrier - could gravity be push with shadows not pull?

2004-02-26 Thread Eric Hawthorne
Caveat: This post will likely demonstrate my complete lack of advanced physics education. But here goes anyway. Is it possible to model gravity as space being filled with an all-directional flux of inverse gravitons? These would be particles which: 1. Zoom around EVERYWHERE with a uniform

Fw: Gravity Carrier - could gravity be push with shadows not pull?

2004-02-26 Thread Eric Cavalcanti
Hi there, Well, it is a good try, but it has been proven wrong already indeed. To see a better refutal, see Feynman's popular book 'QED'. For instance, that theory seems even better once you realize that it also acounts for the inverse-square law. But the main flaw, if I recall it, is that

Re: Gravity Carrier - could gravity be push with shadows not pull?

2004-02-26 Thread John M
Without inventing an i-graviton the idea has been put forward by a late collegue of mine Dr. Istvan Vas of Hungary, in the early 1950s. He spoke about a push without identifying its nature - as a force, because a general pull is 'counterproductive' an difficult to explain, as Newton's concerns

Re: Gravity Carrier - could gravity be push with shadows not pull?

2004-02-26 Thread Hal Finney
Eric Hawthorne, [EMAIL PROTECTED], writes: Is it possible to model gravity as space being filled with an all-directional flux of inverse gravitons? Again, this is not really a multiverse question. I hate to be negative, but there are other forums for exploring nonstandard physics concepts.

Re: Gravity Carrier - could gravity be push with shadows not pull?

2004-02-26 Thread Fred Chen
Eric, It may not explain gravity but your phenomenon seems strikingly similar (with its repulsive push picture) to the concept of cosmological constant or quintessence, which has a great deal (it is believed) to do with the expanding universe and its fate. See

Re: Gravity Carrier - could gravity be push with shadows not pull?

2004-02-26 Thread Eric Cavalcanti
Oops, I realize that it wasn't in 'QED' but in the 'Lectures' that I read that... - Original Message - From: Eric Cavalcanti [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2004 10:18 AM Subject: Fw: Gravity Carrier - could gravity be push with shadows not pull?

Re: successive measurements

2004-02-26 Thread Russell Standish
A lot of terminology here that I'm not familiar with. I'd have to be convinced that its worth the effort of learning this language before I could pass a comment on this proposal. Cheers On Thu, Feb 26, 2004 at 11:08:25AM -0500, Stephen Paul King

Re: Gravity Carrier - could gravity be push with shadows not pull?

2004-02-26 Thread Eric Hawthorne
Hal Finney wrote: Again, this is not really a multiverse question. I hate to be negative, but there are other forums for exploring nonstandard physics concepts. Alright I take your chastisement somewhat, while also grumbling a bit about list-fascism. For one thing it's possible that such a

Re: Fw: Gravity Carrier - could gravity be push with shadows not pull?

2004-02-26 Thread Eric Hawthorne
Eric Cavalcanti wrote: But the main flaw, if I recall it, is that objects moving around in space would feel a larger flux of 'iGravitons' coming against the direction of movement, causing a decrease in velocity. So much for inertia... Ok but let's say (for fun) that the iGravitons were all

Re: Black Holes and Gravity Carrier

2004-02-26 Thread John M
Ron: do you believe there are non-virtual gravitons? John Mikes - Original Message - From: Ron McFarland [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2004 9:24 PM Subject: Re: Black Holes and Gravity Carrier Combine my response to 2 responses grin... On 17