Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: My embarassing misunderstanding of theintelligenceofcomputers

2012-11-17 Thread Roger Clough
Hi Craig Weinberg But not ONE field. [Roger Clough], [rclo...@verizon.net] 11/17/2012 Forever is a long time, especially near the end. -Woody Allen - Receiving the following content - From: Craig Weinberg Receiver: everything-list Time: 2012-11-16, 15:57:06 Subject: Re: Re: Re:

Re: Re: the God hypothesis

2012-11-17 Thread Roger Clough
Hi Bruno Marchal My concept of the infinite regress problem is the one that pops up in materialistic theories of perception. Is there a homunculus in the brain to experience what the eye sees? And if so, does the homunculus have a homunculus inside him to interpret that etc. etc, etc. Dennent

Re: the God hypothesis

2012-11-17 Thread Stephen P. King
On 11/17/2012 6:33 AM, Roger Clough wrote: Hi Bruno Marchal My concept of the infinite regress problem is the one that pops up in materialistic theories of perception. Is there a homunculus in the brain to experience what the eye sees? And if so, does the homunculus have a homunculus inside him

In the beginning was the Fourier transform

2012-11-17 Thread Roger Clough
Hi Bruno Marchal If the world (not the mind) functions as a digital machine, I speculate that, following Kant's intuition that there are two primitive forms of being, time and space, where time is time and space is the carrier/container of discrete events, then the contingent world is just

Re: Against Mechanism

2012-11-17 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 16 Nov 2012, at 23:08, John Clark wrote: On Fri, Nov 16, 2012 at 11:24 AM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote: Yes, the question is about a prediction. And my question is why is the question about prediction rather than remembering which would make far more sense. Using

Re: Re: Re: Re: 14 billion years ago there was a huge explosion

2012-11-17 Thread Roger Clough
Hi Russell Standish Intelligence is nothing. [Roger Clough], [rclo...@verizon.net] 11/17/2012 Forever is a long time, especially near the end. -Woody Allen - Receiving the following content - From: Russell Standish Receiver: everything-list Time: 2012-11-16, 19:10:02 Subject: Re:

Re: Re: Emergence of Properties

2012-11-17 Thread Roger Clough
Hi Stephen P. King OK if you're satisfied with a vague feeling of agreement among multiple observers. That of course would cause you to see fuzzy or incomplete objects. The Turing Test was suggested to try to wake you up. [Roger Clough], [rclo...@verizon.net] 11/17/2012 Forever is a long

Re: Re: the God hypothesis

2012-11-17 Thread Roger Clough
Hi Stephen P. King Now I see that there is a remote hint of what you say in Leibniz's metaphysics. Each monad perceives only the phenomenol world, the world from his own perspective. The actual object is only truly perceived if perceived by all perceivers. But that does create the object, the

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: My embarassing misunderstanding of theintelligenceofcomputers

2012-11-17 Thread Craig Weinberg
On Saturday, November 17, 2012 6:26:12 AM UTC-5, rclough wrote: Hi Craig Weinberg But not ONE field. Neither is the brain or body held together by one field. [Roger Clough], [rcl...@verizon.net] javascript: 11/17/2012 Forever is a long time, especially near the end. -Woody

Re: the God hypothesis

2012-11-17 Thread Stephen P. King
On 11/17/2012 7:15 AM, Roger Clough wrote: Hi Stephen P. King Now I see that there is a remote hint of what you say in Leibniz's metaphysics. Each monad perceives only the phenomenol world, the world from his own perspective. The actual object is only truly perceived if perceived by all

Re: Against Mechanism

2012-11-17 Thread John Clark
On Sat, Nov 17, 2012 Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote: You mean the Helsinki guy. OK, so if you are the Helsinki guy and the Helsinki guy is the guy who is still experiencing Helsinki then the answer to the question what city will you see when you push that button? is no city at all.

Fwd: Reality Check: You Are Not a Computer Simulation [Audio]

2012-11-17 Thread meekerdb
Original Message More In This Article *Overview _Is Quantum Reality Analog after All?_ (http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=is-quantum-reality-analog-after-all) Conventional wisdom says that quantum mechanics is a theory of discreteness,

Re: Fwd: Reality Check: You Are Not a Computer Simulation [Audio]

2012-11-17 Thread Stephen P. King
On 11/17/2012 4:25 PM, meekerdb wrote: Original Message More In This Article *Overview _Is Quantum Reality Analog after All?_ (http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=is-quantum-reality-analog-after-all) Conventional wisdom says that quantum

Dark Integers: a Story by Greg Egan

2012-11-17 Thread Stephen P. King
Hi, For your entertainment: http://www.asimovs.com/_issue_0710/Dark.shtml -- Onward! Stephen -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Everything List group. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from

Nothing happens in the Universe of the Everett Interpretation

2012-11-17 Thread Craig Weinberg
In a recent paper entitled “Nothing happens in the Universe of the Everett Interpretation”: http://arxiv.org/abs/1210.8447 Jan-Markus Schwindt has presented an impressive argument against the many-world interpretation of quantum mechanics. The argument he presents is not new, but, in my