Re: Trump is on the ballot, along with Democracy

2024-03-04 Thread John Clark
On Mon, Mar 4, 2024 at 6:45 PM Brent Meeker wrote: > > > > *> But Section 3 already assigns a role to Congress; they can remove the > disqualification due to insurrection by 2/3 vote. That clearly implies > that it was NOT up to Congress to disqualify anyone. It makes no sense > that a

Trump is on the ballot, along with Democracy

2024-03-04 Thread Brent Meeker
The Supremes dodged their responsibility to enforce the Constitution and ban the Dump from holding any federal office.  Instead they say it is up to Congress of enforce the 14th Amendment Section 3. Presumably by disqualifying the Dump from office.  But Section 3 already assigns a role to

Re: A question for Trump supporters

2024-03-04 Thread Brent Meeker
On 3/4/2024 12:24 PM, John Clark wrote: On Mon, Mar 4, 2024 at 2:41 PM Dylan Distasio wrote: /> Whether Trump was actually guilty of insurrection is a moot point from a legal perspective in ruling on a state taking this kind of action.   It would have to come from Congress./

Re: A question for Trump supporters

2024-03-04 Thread Dylan Distasio
Out of curiosity, have you read the full text of the ruling? On Mon, Mar 4, 2024 at 4:47 PM Brent Meeker wrote: > The liberal Supremes joined the MAGAts in dodging responsibility. Were > Confederate officers who previously served in the US Army denied election > one-by-one by acts of Congress?

Re: A question for Trump supporters

2024-03-04 Thread Brent Meeker
The liberal Supremes joined the MAGAts in dodging responsibility. Were Confederate officers who previously served in the US Army denied election one-by-one by acts of Congress?  I don't think so. Why is any "action" needed unless someone challenges their disqualification on factual grounds.

Re: A question for Trump supporters

2024-03-04 Thread John Clark
On Mon, Mar 4, 2024 at 2:41 PM Dylan Distasio wrote: > *> Whether Trump was actually guilty of insurrection is a moot point from > a legal perspective in ruling on a state taking this kind of action. It > would have to come from Congress.* > Then why didn't the 14th amendment specify that

Re: A question for Trump supporters

2024-03-04 Thread Dylan Distasio
Even if we allow for the sake of a hypothetical that Trump directly was part of an "insurrection," states have no authority to make this determination around eligibility under the 14th amendment.The ruling was unanimous including from liberals on the court who despise Trump, and does nothing

Re: A question for Trump supporters

2024-03-04 Thread John Clark
On Mon, Mar 4, 2024 at 2:16 PM howardmarks wrote: *> How can it be construed as "insurrection" to ask a group not at the > Capitol, words to the effect of "peacefully" going to the Capital to > "lawfully protest . . . "? * > Something like that couldn't be interpreted as an insurrection, but I

Re: A question for Trump supporters

2024-03-04 Thread howardmarks
Sorry, Supreme Court did not ignore the 14th Amendment to the USC. How can it be construed as "insurrection" to ask a group not at the Capitol, words to the effect of "peacefully" going to the Capital to "lawfully protest . . . "?  And, it's doubtful 2nd Amendment will be allowed by the owners

A question for Trump supporters

2024-03-04 Thread John Clark
Now that the Supreme Court has decreed that it's constitutional to ignore the 14th amendment to the US Constitution and allow Trump to remain on the ballot, would it also be constitutional to ignore the second amendment to the Constitution? John K ClarkSee what's on my new list at