Re: Aaronson/Penrose

2016-09-02 Thread Alan Grayson
ust 31, 2016 at 11:17:22 AM UTC-6, Bruno Marchal wrote: >>> >>> >>> On 30 Aug 2016, at 18:23, Alan Grayson wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> On Friday, June 10, 2016 at 6:10:41 PM UTC-6, Bruce wrote: >>>> >>>> On 11/06/2016 3:56 am,

Re: Aaronson/Penrose

2016-08-30 Thread Alan Grayson
On Friday, June 10, 2016 at 6:10:41 PM UTC-6, Bruce wrote: > > On 11/06/2016 3:56 am, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > On 10 Jun 2016, at 03:02, Bruce Kellett wrote: > >> On 10/06/2016 1:41 am, Bruno Marchal wrote: > >>> On 09 Jun 2016, at 01:28, Bruce Kellett wrote: > In other words, FPI is

Re: Aaronson/Penrose

2016-09-09 Thread Alan Grayson
t;>>>> >>>>>> By Bell's violation, if there is a collapse, it affects elements >>>>>> which are space-separated. Einstein explained this already at the Solvay >>>>>> congress. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>&

Re: Aaronson/Penrose

2016-09-09 Thread Alan Grayson
On Fri, Sep 9, 2016 at 8:34 AM, Jason Resch <jasonre...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > On Fri, Sep 9, 2016 at 8:56 AM, Alan Grayson <agrayson2...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> >> >> On Fri, Sep 9, 2016 at 7:46 AM, Bruno Marchal <marc...@ulb.ac.be> wr

Re: Aaronson/Penrose

2016-09-09 Thread Alan Grayson
On Fri, Sep 9, 2016 at 10:20 AM, Alan Grayson <agrayson2...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > On Fri, Sep 9, 2016 at 8:34 AM, Jason Resch <jasonre...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> >> >> On Fri, Sep 9, 2016 at 8:56 AM, Alan Grayson <agrayson2...@gmail.com> >>

Re: flat vs asymptotically flat universe

2017-11-10 Thread Alan Grayson
On Thu, Nov 9, 2017 at 10:32 PM, Brent Meeker <meeke...@verizon.net> wrote: > > > On 11/9/2017 9:15 PM, Alan Grayson wrote: > > > > On Thu, Nov 9, 2017 at 10:05 PM, Brent Meeker <meeke...@verizon.net> > wrote: > >> >> >> On 11/9/2017 8:55

Re: flat vs asymptotically flat universe

2017-11-10 Thread Alan Grayson
On Fri, Nov 10, 2017 at 12:19 PM, Brent Meeker <meeke...@verizon.net> wrote: > > > On 11/10/2017 4:06 AM, Alan Grayson wrote: > > > > On Thu, Nov 9, 2017 at 10:32 PM, Brent Meeker <meeke...@verizon.net> > wrote: > >> >> >> On 11/9/2017 9:1

Re: Consistency of Postulates of QM

2017-11-10 Thread Alan Grayson
On Fri, Nov 10, 2017 at 12:46 PM, John Clark wrote: > On Thu, Nov 9, 2017 at 10:43 AM, wrote: > > ​> ​ >> If the measurement problem were solved in the sense being able to predict >> exact outcomes, >> > > ​That's not the measurement problem, its

Re: flat vs asymptotically flat universe

2017-11-09 Thread Alan Grayson
The difference between spatially flat and asymptotically flat for a huge universe would be virtually impossible to distinguish by measuring the sum of angles in a triangle. Moreover, I don't see how spatially flat can have nothing to do with extent, since in applying Euclidean geometry we surely

Re: Consistency of Postulates of QM

2017-11-09 Thread Alan Grayson
How would you define "the measurement problem" to conclude that strictly diagonalizing the density matrix would be a solution? TIA On Thu, Nov 9, 2017 at 2:45 PM, Brent Meeker wrote: > The "measurement problem" isn't necessarily finding a deterministic > subquantum

Re: flat vs asymptotically flat universe

2017-11-09 Thread Alan Grayson
On Thu, Nov 9, 2017 at 10:05 PM, Brent Meeker <meeke...@verizon.net> wrote: > > > On 11/9/2017 8:55 PM, agrayson2...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > On Thursday, November 9, 2017 at 8:00:45 PM UTC-7, Brent wrote: >> >> >> >> On 11/9/2017 6:23 P

Re: Constructive thinking vs dismissive thinking

2019-05-30 Thread Alan Grayson
On Thursday, May 30, 2019 at 7:35:40 AM UTC-6, John Clark wrote: > > On Tue, May 28, 2019 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List < > everyth...@googlegroups.com > wrote: > > * > Notice that Cosmin has been invited to demonstrate his telepathic >> powers several times and even to propose a test of

Re: Trump Supporters?

2019-06-12 Thread Alan Grayson
On Saturday, June 1, 2019 at 12:43:56 PM UTC-6, Lawrence Crowell wrote: > > We are weavers in the web that we wove. We are victims of this > technological marvel called the media, which now includes the internet. > Joseph Goebbels, propaganda minister for the third Reich, said that a lie >

Re: The anecdote of Moon landing

2019-06-10 Thread Alan Grayson
> Cheers! Howard Marks > I rarely make predictions, so I have few, if any, misses. I knew how the Cuban Missile Crisis would end, but that was just using logic and experience; not telepathy. AG > > On 6/10/2019 8:15 PM, Alan Grayson wrote: > > > > On Monday, June 10, 20

Re: The anecdote of Moon landing

2019-06-10 Thread Alan Grayson
y reject them > because you are indoctrinated. > > Bem did some experiments proving precognition. 90 other experiments , > replicated those results. So where are those "ZERO people" that you > talk about ? Fake news much ? > https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc

Re: The anecdote of Moon landing

2019-06-10 Thread Alan Grayson
Cheers! Howard Marks > I never had any "misses". All those experiences were unique and stand-alones. As for Clark, no point in discussing these experiences with a know-it-all fool. AG > > On 6/10/2019 4:50 PM, Alan Grayson wrote: > > > > On Monday, June 10, 2019

Re: The anecdote of Moon landing

2019-06-10 Thread Alan Grayson
On Monday, June 10, 2019 at 3:24:11 PM UTC-6, howardmarks wrote: > > The statistics of ZERO is not mine, it's a worldwide finding by many > people after much hard work. Phenomena needs to be demonstrable --- not > mere fart-gas testimony or journal submissions. > > CSICOP/CSI/Skeptical

Re: The anecdote of Moon landing

2019-06-09 Thread Alan Grayson
On Tuesday, May 21, 2019 at 2:09:38 AM UTC-6, Cosmin Visan wrote: > > Telepathy doesn't happen necessarily at will. It only happens when certain > conditions are being met. Asking someone to produce telepathy on the spot > is like asking him to produce Higgs Boson on the spot. So let's do like

Re: The anecdote of Moon landing

2019-06-09 Thread Alan Grayson
On Sunday, June 9, 2019 at 6:48:37 AM UTC-6, John Clark wrote: > > On Sun, Jun 9, 2019 at 3:22 AM Alan Grayson > wrote: > > > *I've had a few "telepathic" experiences* >> > > There is a new job opening for a good telepath, the pay is very good and >

Re: Retrocausality in Quantum Mechanics (SEP)

2019-06-10 Thread Alan Grayson
On Sunday, June 9, 2019 at 10:52:02 PM UTC-6, Bruce wrote: > > On Wed, Jun 5, 2019 at 11:25 PM Philip Thrift > wrote: > >> On Wednesday, June 5, 2019 at 7:56:41 AM UTC-5, Philip Thrift wrote: >>> >>> On Wednesday, June 5, 2019 at 6:45:32 AM UTC-5, Lawrence Crowell wrote: On Tuesday,

Re: Dream Telepathy with Stanley Krippner

2019-06-21 Thread Alan Grayson
On Thursday, June 13, 2019 at 6:51:46 AM UTC-6, Cosmin Visan wrote: > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ht89rJUZUv4 > Haven't yet viewed this in its entirety, but I will note for anyone who is interested, that some of my several telepathic experiences occurred in a dream like state, the

Re: Dream Telepathy with Stanley Krippner

2019-06-22 Thread Alan Grayson
On Friday, June 21, 2019 at 1:24:16 AM UTC-6, Alan Grayson wrote: > > > > On Thursday, June 13, 2019 at 6:51:46 AM UTC-6, Cosmin Visan wrote: >> >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ht89rJUZUv4 >> > > Haven't yet viewed this in its entirety, but I will

Re: The anecdote of Moon landing

2019-06-10 Thread Alan Grayson
On Monday, June 10, 2019 at 6:24:55 AM UTC-6, John Clark wrote: > > On Sun, Jun 9, 2019 at 10:19 PM Alan Grayson > wrote: > > >>> *I've had a few "telepathic" experiences* >>>> >>> >>> >> There is a new job opening for a

Re: Questions about the Equivalence Principle (EP) and GR

2019-05-09 Thread Alan Grayson
Did Einstein "derive" the field equation using the 5 postulates of GR, or did he guess what they had to be based on what the postulates implied? I ask this because I recall reading that the field equations published in his 1916 paper were those he had rejected around 1913. How could the final

Re: My book "I Am" published on amazon

2019-05-20 Thread Alan Grayson
On Sunday, May 19, 2019 at 12:12:13 AM UTC-6, Bruce wrote: > > On Sun, May 19, 2019 at 10:27 AM Russell Standish > wrote: > > On Fri, May 17, 2019 at 10:47:36PM +1000, Bruce Kellett wrote: > > On Fri, May 17, 2019 at 10:14 PM Bruno Marchal > wrote: > > > > On 16 May 2019, at 03:27, Bruce

Re: Standard Model & Higgs Boson

2019-08-11 Thread Alan Grayson
On Sunday, August 11, 2019 at 3:56:39 PM UTC-6, Lawrence Crowell wrote: > > On Saturday, August 10, 2019 at 10:43:39 PM UTC-5, Alan Grayson wrote: >> >> In what way does the Standard Model imply the existence of the Higgs >> Boson? TIA. >> > > I have been

Re: Standard Model & Higgs Boson

2019-08-16 Thread Alan Grayson
On Thursday, August 15, 2019 at 12:07:01 AM UTC-6, Alan Grayson wrote: > > > > On Sunday, August 11, 2019 at 9:40:45 PM UTC-6, Alan Grayson wrote: >> >> >> >> On Sunday, August 11, 2019 at 3:56:39 PM UTC-6, Lawrence Crowell wrote: >>> >>> O

Re: Standard Model & Higgs Boson

2019-08-15 Thread Alan Grayson
On Sunday, August 11, 2019 at 9:40:45 PM UTC-6, Alan Grayson wrote: > > > > On Sunday, August 11, 2019 at 3:56:39 PM UTC-6, Lawrence Crowell wrote: >> >> On Saturday, August 10, 2019 at 10:43:39 PM UTC-5, Alan Grayson wrote: >>> >>> In what way d

Cause of the Earth's magnetic field

2019-08-10 Thread Alan Grayson
Is the existence of the Earth's magnetic field a solved problem in geophysics? Assuming it's caused by a charged current of molten iron ions, even if the ions are created by the freeing of electrons due to thermal conditions (aka heat), wouldn't the released electrons, having an opposite charge

Standard Model & Higgs Boson

2019-08-10 Thread Alan Grayson
In what way does the Standard Model imply the existence of the Higgs Boson? TIA. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

Re: Standard Model & Higgs Boson

2019-08-18 Thread Alan Grayson
On Thursday, August 15, 2019 at 12:37:59 AM UTC-6, Philip Thrift wrote: > > > On Saturday, August 10, 2019 at 10:43:39 PM UTC-5, Alan Grayson wrote: >> >> In what way does the Standard Model imply the existence of the Higgs >> Boson? TIA. >> > > >

Re: Conformal Cyclic Cosmology

2019-08-21 Thread Alan Grayson
On Wednesday, August 21, 2019 at 3:13:11 PM UTC-6, Lawrence Crowell wrote: > > On Tuesday, August 20, 2019 at 4:56:23 PM UTC-5, Alan Grayson wrote: >> >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conformal_cyclic_cosmology >> >> Is this a viable theory for avoiding a BB in

Conformal Cyclic Cosmology

2019-08-20 Thread Alan Grayson
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conformal_cyclic_cosmology Is this a viable theory for avoiding a BB interpreted as a singularity? AG -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails

Re: Conformal Cyclic Cosmology

2019-08-21 Thread Alan Grayson
On Wednesday, August 21, 2019 at 7:12:14 PM UTC-6, Alan Grayson wrote: > > > > On Wednesday, August 21, 2019 at 3:13:11 PM UTC-6, Lawrence Crowell wrote: >> >> On Tuesday, August 20, 2019 at 4:56:23 PM UTC-5, Alan Grayson wrote: >>> >>> https://en.wik

Re: Conformal Cyclic Cosmology

2019-08-25 Thread Alan Grayson
On Saturday, August 24, 2019 at 10:16:56 AM UTC-6, Alan Grayson wrote: > > > > On Friday, August 23, 2019 at 11:32:47 PM UTC-6, Alan Grayson wrote: >> >> >> >> On Friday, August 23, 2019 at 11:16:36 PM UTC-6, Alan Grayson wrote: >>> >>>

Re: Conformal Cyclic Cosmology

2019-08-25 Thread Alan Grayson
On Sunday, August 25, 2019 at 12:21:37 AM UTC-6, Alan Grayson wrote: > > > > On Saturday, August 24, 2019 at 10:16:56 AM UTC-6, Alan Grayson wrote: >> >> >> >> On Friday, August 23, 2019 at 11:32:47 PM UTC-6, Alan Grayson wrote: >>> >>> &

Re: Conformal Cyclic Cosmology

2019-08-24 Thread Alan Grayson
On Friday, August 23, 2019 at 11:32:47 PM UTC-6, Alan Grayson wrote: > > > > On Friday, August 23, 2019 at 11:16:36 PM UTC-6, Alan Grayson wrote: >> >> >> >> On Friday, August 23, 2019 at 8:12:55 PM UTC-6, Lawrence Crowell wrote: >>> >>>

Re: Conformal Cyclic Cosmology

2019-08-24 Thread Alan Grayson
On Friday, August 23, 2019 at 7:48:19 PM UTC-6, Lawrence Crowell wrote: > > On Friday, August 23, 2019 at 5:48:13 PM UTC-5, Alan Grayson wrote: >> >> >> >> On Friday, August 23, 2019 at 3:31:36 PM UTC-6, Lawrence Crowell wrote: >>> >>> On Thur

Re: Quantum Foam

2019-08-26 Thread Alan Grayson
On Monday, August 26, 2019 at 10:55:23 PM UTC-6, Brent wrote: > > > > On 8/26/2019 8:48 PM, Alan Grayson wrote: > > > > On Monday, August 26, 2019 at 9:18:50 PM UTC-6, Bruce wrote: >> >> On Tue, Aug 27, 2019 at 12:40 PM Jason Resch wrote: >> >>

Re: Quantum Foam

2019-08-26 Thread Alan Grayson
On Monday, August 26, 2019 at 9:18:50 PM UTC-6, Bruce wrote: > > On Tue, Aug 27, 2019 at 12:40 PM Jason Resch > wrote: > >> On Mon, Aug 26, 2019 at 9:25 PM Bruce Kellett > > wrote: >> >>> On Tue, Aug 27, 2019 at 10:35 AM Jason Resch >> > wrote: >>> On Mon, Aug 26, 2019 at 7:32 PM Bruce

Quantum Foam

2019-08-26 Thread Alan Grayson
Is the existence of the quantum foam, with virtual particles incessantly coming into existence and being annihilated, generally accepted? If I recall correctly, Bruce was extremely doubtful, claiming it's based on reifying, or making concrete, terms in an approximation method which are

Re: Quantum Foam

2019-08-27 Thread Alan Grayson
On Tuesday, August 27, 2019 at 1:59:40 AM UTC-6, Bruce wrote: > > On Tue, Aug 27, 2019 at 5:39 PM Alan Grayson > wrote: > >> On Tuesday, August 27, 2019 at 1:08:33 AM UTC-6, Bruce wrote: >>> >>> On Tue, Aug 27, 2019 at 4:57 PM Alan Grayson >>>

Re: Quantum Foam

2019-08-27 Thread Alan Grayson
On Tuesday, August 27, 2019 at 3:17:41 AM UTC-6, Bruce wrote: > > On Tue, Aug 27, 2019 at 7:05 PM Alan Grayson > wrote: > >> On Tuesday, August 27, 2019 at 2:47:39 AM UTC-6, Alan Grayson wrote: >>> >>> On Tuesday, August 27, 2019 at 1:59:40 AM UTC-6, Bruce w

Re: Quantum Foam

2019-08-27 Thread Alan Grayson
On Tuesday, August 27, 2019 at 7:53:26 AM UTC-6, Alan Grayson wrote: > > > > On Tuesday, August 27, 2019 at 3:17:41 AM UTC-6, Bruce wrote: >> >> On Tue, Aug 27, 2019 at 7:05 PM Alan Grayson wrote: >> >>> On Tuesday, August 27, 2019 at 2:47:39 AM UTC-6, A

Re: Quantum Foam

2019-08-27 Thread Alan Grayson
On Tuesday, August 27, 2019 at 10:01:19 PM UTC-6, Philip Thrift wrote: > > > > On Tuesday, August 27, 2019 at 5:55:36 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote: >> >> >> I came across a good article that is apposite to the discussion in this >> thread. Arnold Neumaier has an article on virtual particles at: >> >>

Re: Quantum Foam

2019-08-27 Thread Alan Grayson
On Tuesday, August 27, 2019 at 3:17:41 AM UTC-6, Bruce wrote: > > On Tue, Aug 27, 2019 at 7:05 PM Alan Grayson > wrote: > >> On Tuesday, August 27, 2019 at 2:47:39 AM UTC-6, Alan Grayson wrote: >>> >>> On Tuesday, August 27, 2019 at 1:59:40 AM UTC-6, Bruce w

Re: Quantum Foam

2019-08-27 Thread Alan Grayson
On Tuesday, August 27, 2019 at 9:21:29 PM UTC-6, Bruce wrote: > > On Wed, Aug 28, 2019 at 1:07 PM Alan Grayson > wrote: > >> On Tuesday, August 27, 2019 at 3:17:41 AM UTC-6, Bruce wrote: >>> >>> >>> Good question. Best answer to date is that it is E

How to estimate the total energy of the visible universe

2019-09-03 Thread Alan Grayson
Just sum over the estimated total of 10^80 particles, using mc^2 by first estimating the average mass of those particles for the rest energy, adding their average potential gravitational energy and their average kinetic energy. Why not? AG -- You received this message because you are

Quantum Foam 2

2019-09-03 Thread Alan Grayson
LC says the total energy of the visible universe is exactly zero, Bruce says it is not. Who is correct? TIA, AG -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email

Re: Quantum Foam

2019-08-29 Thread Alan Grayson
On Thursday, August 29, 2019 at 1:12:09 AM UTC-6, Philip Thrift wrote: > > > > On Wednesday, August 28, 2019 at 5:32:23 PM UTC-5, Alan Grayson wrote: >> >> >> >> >> Phil, how about your considered opinion of his analysis of virtual >> particl

Re: Quantum Foam

2019-08-29 Thread Alan Grayson
On Thursday, August 29, 2019 at 7:55:15 AM UTC-6, Philip Thrift wrote: > > > > On Thursday, August 29, 2019 at 8:34:00 AM UTC-5, Alan Grayson wrote: >> >> >> >> On Thursday, August 29, 2019 at 1:12:09 AM UTC-6, Philip Thrift wrote: >>> >>> &

Infinities

2019-08-29 Thread Alan Grayson
If there are infinities in mathematics, but not in physics or in nature, is that a problem? AG -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

Re: Conformal Cyclic Cosmology

2019-08-25 Thread Alan Grayson
On Friday, August 23, 2019 at 8:12:55 PM UTC-6, Lawrence Crowell wrote: > > On Friday, August 23, 2019 at 9:01:42 PM UTC-5, Alan Grayson wrote: >> >> >> >> On Friday, August 23, 2019 at 7:48:19 PM UTC-6, Lawrence Crowell wrote: >>> >>> On Friday, A

Re: Observation versus assumption

2019-08-25 Thread Alan Grayson
On Sunday, August 25, 2019 at 9:03:45 PM UTC-6, Bruce wrote: > > On Mon, Aug 26, 2019 at 12:07 PM Jason Resch > wrote: > >> On Sunday, August 25, 2019, Bruce Kellett > > wrote: >> >>> On Mon, Aug 26, 2019 at 5:50 AM Jason Resch >> > wrote: >>> On Sun, Aug 25, 2019, 3:10 AM Bruce Kellett

Re: Conformal Cyclic Cosmology

2019-08-23 Thread Alan Grayson
On Friday, August 23, 2019 at 7:48:19 PM UTC-6, Lawrence Crowell wrote: > > On Friday, August 23, 2019 at 5:48:13 PM UTC-5, Alan Grayson wrote: >> >> >> >> On Friday, August 23, 2019 at 3:31:36 PM UTC-6, Lawrence Crowell wrote: >>> >>> On Thur

Re: Conformal Cyclic Cosmology

2019-08-23 Thread Alan Grayson
On Friday, August 23, 2019 at 3:31:36 PM UTC-6, Lawrence Crowell wrote: > > On Thursday, August 22, 2019 at 12:37:40 AM UTC-5, Alan Grayson wrote: >> >> >> >> On Wednesday, August 21, 2019 at 7:12:14 PM UTC-6, Alan Grayson wrote: >>> >>> >>&

Re: Conformal Cyclic Cosmology

2019-08-23 Thread Alan Grayson
On Friday, August 23, 2019 at 8:12:55 PM UTC-6, Lawrence Crowell wrote: > > On Friday, August 23, 2019 at 9:01:42 PM UTC-5, Alan Grayson wrote: >> >> >> >> On Friday, August 23, 2019 at 7:48:19 PM UTC-6, Lawrence Crowell wrote: >>> >>> On Friday, A

Re: Conformal Cyclic Cosmology

2019-08-23 Thread Alan Grayson
On Friday, August 23, 2019 at 11:16:36 PM UTC-6, Alan Grayson wrote: > > > > On Friday, August 23, 2019 at 8:12:55 PM UTC-6, Lawrence Crowell wrote: >> >> On Friday, August 23, 2019 at 9:01:42 PM UTC-5, Alan Grayson wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>&

Re: Quantum Foam

2019-08-28 Thread Alan Grayson
On Tuesday, August 27, 2019 at 9:21:29 PM UTC-6, Bruce wrote: > > On Wed, Aug 28, 2019 at 1:07 PM Alan Grayson > wrote: > >> On Tuesday, August 27, 2019 at 3:17:41 AM UTC-6, Bruce wrote: >>> >>> >>> Good question. Best answer to date is that it is E

Re: Quantum Foam

2019-08-28 Thread Alan Grayson
On Wednesday, August 28, 2019 at 12:05:39 PM UTC-6, Philip Thrift wrote: > > > > On Wednesday, August 28, 2019 at 10:45:12 AM UTC-5, Brent wrote: >> >> >> >> On 8/27/2019 11:34 PM, Philip Thrift wrote: >> >> >> >> On Wednesday, August 28, 2019 at 12:21:12 AM UTC-5, Bruce wrote: >>> >>> >>>

Re: Conformal Cyclic Cosmology

2019-08-26 Thread Alan Grayson
On Monday, August 26, 2019 at 5:14:08 AM UTC-6, Lawrence Crowell wrote: > > On Sunday, August 25, 2019 at 9:38:51 PM UTC-5, Alan Grayson wrote: >> >> >> >> On Friday, August 23, 2019 at 8:12:55 PM UTC-6, Lawrence Crowell wrote: >>> >>> On Friday, A

Re: Quantum Foam

2019-08-27 Thread Alan Grayson
On Monday, August 26, 2019 at 11:55:47 PM UTC-6, Jason wrote: > > > > On Tue, Aug 27, 2019 at 12:02 AM Alan Grayson > wrote: > >> >> >> On Monday, August 26, 2019 at 10:55:23 PM UTC-6, Brent wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> On 8/2

Re: Quantum Foam

2019-08-27 Thread Alan Grayson
On Tuesday, August 27, 2019 at 1:08:33 AM UTC-6, Bruce wrote: > > On Tue, Aug 27, 2019 at 4:57 PM Alan Grayson > wrote: > >> >> But if virtual particles don't exist, if they're based on conceptual >> errors, what's the basis for claiming the vacuum is not a

Re: Quantum Foam

2019-08-27 Thread Alan Grayson
On Tuesday, August 27, 2019 at 2:47:39 AM UTC-6, Alan Grayson wrote: > > > > On Tuesday, August 27, 2019 at 1:59:40 AM UTC-6, Bruce wrote: >> >> On Tue, Aug 27, 2019 at 5:39 PM Alan Grayson wrote: >> >>> On Tuesday, August 27, 2019 at 1:08:33 AM UTC-6

Re: Conformal Cyclic Cosmology

2019-08-22 Thread Alan Grayson
On Wednesday, August 21, 2019 at 11:37:40 PM UTC-6, Alan Grayson wrote: > > > > On Wednesday, August 21, 2019 at 7:12:14 PM UTC-6, Alan Grayson wrote: >> >> >> >> On Wednesday, August 21, 2019 at 3:13:11 PM UTC-6, Lawrence Crowell wrote: >>> >&g

Re: How to estimate the total energy of the visible universe

2019-09-04 Thread Alan Grayson
On Wednesday, September 4, 2019 at 9:03:44 AM UTC-6, John Clark wrote: > > On Tue, Sep 3, 2019 at 11:01 PM Alan Grayson > wrote: > > *> Just sum over the estimated total of 10^80 particles, using mc^2 by >> first estimating the average mass of those particles for the

Re: How to estimate the total energy of the visible universe

2019-09-04 Thread Alan Grayson
particle at some location IN a field, but how can I calculate the total negative potential energy OF the field (for a particle of average mass)? AG > > > On Tuesday, September 3, 2019 at 10:00:55 PM UTC-5, Alan Grayson wrote: >> >> Just sum over the estimated total of 10^80

Re: Quantum Foam

2019-09-04 Thread Alan Grayson
On Monday, August 26, 2019 at 10:52:38 AM UTC-6, Alan Grayson wrote: > > Is the existence of the quantum foam, with virtual particles incessantly > coming into existence and being annihilated, generally accepted? If I > recall correctly, Bruce was extremely doubtful, claimin

Another physicist in mental decline (Sean Carroll)

2019-09-11 Thread Alan Grayson
https://www.wired.com/story/sean-carroll-thinks-we-all-exist-on-multiple-worlds/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

Re: Another physicist in mental decline (Sean Carroll)

2019-09-12 Thread Alan Grayson
On Thursday, September 12, 2019 at 3:20:46 AM UTC-6, Philip Thrift wrote: > > > > On Wednesday, September 11, 2019 at 11:45:41 PM UTC-5, Alan Grayson wrote: >> >> >> https://www.wired.com/story/sean-carroll-thinks-we-all-exist-on-multiple-worlds/ >> &g

Re: Another physicist in mental decline (Sean Carroll)

2019-09-13 Thread Alan Grayson
On Friday, September 13, 2019 at 2:23:14 AM UTC-6, stathisp wrote: > > > > On Fri, 13 Sep 2019 at 14:52, 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List < > everyth...@googlegroups.com > wrote: > >> >> >> On 9/12/2019 8:11 PM, Stathis Papaioannou wrote: >> >

Re: Quantum Foam

2019-09-13 Thread Alan Grayson
On Tuesday, August 27, 2019 at 9:21:29 PM UTC-6, Bruce wrote: > > On Wed, Aug 28, 2019 at 1:07 PM Alan Grayson > wrote: > >> On Tuesday, August 27, 2019 at 3:17:41 AM UTC-6, Bruce wrote: >>> >>> >>> Good question. Best answer to date is that it is E

Re: Another physicist in mental decline (Sean Carroll)

2019-09-13 Thread Alan Grayson
On Friday, September 13, 2019 at 5:08:41 AM UTC-6, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > > On 12 Sep 2019, at 06:45, Alan Grayson > > wrote: > > > https://www.wired.com/story/sean-carroll-thinks-we-all-exist-on-multiple-worlds/ > > > Sean Carroll assumes that reality is

Re: Another physicist in mental decline (Sean Carroll)

2019-09-12 Thread Alan Grayson
On Thursday, September 12, 2019 at 7:45:22 AM UTC-6, Lawrence Crowell wrote: > > On Thursday, September 12, 2019 at 4:20:46 AM UTC-5, Philip Thrift wrote: >> >> >> >> On Wednesday, September 11, 2019 at 11:45:41 PM UTC-5, Alan Grayson wrote: >>> >>&

Re: Another physicist in mental decline (Sean Carroll)

2019-09-13 Thread Alan Grayson
r 12, 2019 at 8:45:22 AM UTC-5, Lawrence Crowell >> wrote: >>> >>> On Thursday, September 12, 2019 at 4:20:46 AM UTC-5, Philip Thrift wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Wednesday, September 11, 2019 at 11:45:41 PM UTC-5, Ala

Re: Another physicist in mental decline (Sean Carroll)

2019-09-13 Thread Alan Grayson
On Friday, September 13, 2019 at 5:24:11 AM UTC-6, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > > On 13 Sep 2019, at 04:26, Alan Grayson > > wrote: > > > > On Thursday, September 12, 2019 at 11:01:54 AM UTC-6, Alan Grayson wrote: >> >> >> >> On Thursday, Septe

Re: An AI can now pass a 12th-Grade Science Test

2019-09-13 Thread Alan Grayson
On Friday, September 13, 2019 at 6:15:08 AM UTC-6, John Clark wrote: > > On Fri, Sep 13, 2019 at 3:35 AM Alan Grayson > wrote: > > *> If it knows which questions it got wrong, and the correct reply, it >> could easily be programmed to improve over time without asc

Re: Another physicist in mental decline (Sean Carroll)

2019-09-13 Thread Alan Grayson
On Friday, September 13, 2019 at 8:59:59 AM UTC-6, stathisp wrote: > > > > On Fri, 13 Sep 2019 at 19:48, Alan Grayson > wrote: > >> >> >> On Friday, September 13, 2019 at 2:23:14 AM UTC-6, stathisp wrote: >>> >>> >>> >&

Re: An AI can now pass a 12th-Grade Science Test

2019-09-13 Thread Alan Grayson
On Friday, September 13, 2019 at 9:07:58 AM UTC-6, John Clark wrote: > > On Fri, Sep 13, 2019 at 9:18 AM Alan Grayson > wrote: > > >> The only thing I can ascribe consciousness to with absolute certainty >>> is me. As for intelligence, if something, man or machi

Re: How to estimate the total energy of the visible universe

2019-09-08 Thread Alan Grayson
On Sunday, September 8, 2019 at 1:28:36 PM UTC-6, Lawrence Crowell wrote: > > > > On Sunday, September 8, 2019 at 12:47:28 AM UTC-5, Alan Grayson wrote: >> >> >> >> On Saturday, September 7, 2019 at 2:05:11 PM UTC-6, Lawrence Crowell >> wrote: >>&

Re: An AI can now pass a 12th-Grade Science Test

2019-09-10 Thread Alan Grayson
On Monday, September 9, 2019 at 8:07:13 PM UTC-6, Alan Grayson wrote: > > > > On Monday, September 9, 2019 at 11:37:25 AM UTC-6, John Clark wrote: >> >> On Mon, Sep 9, 2019 at 1:32 PM Alan Grayson wrote: >> >> *> Why do you think this has anything to

Re: An AI can now pass a 12th-Grade Science Test

2019-09-11 Thread Alan Grayson
On Tuesday, September 10, 2019 at 9:27:20 PM UTC-6, Alan Grayson wrote: > > > > On Monday, September 9, 2019 at 8:07:13 PM UTC-6, Alan Grayson wrote: >> >> >> >> On Monday, September 9, 2019 at 11:37:25 AM UTC-6, John Clark wrote: >>> >>&

Re: How to estimate the total energy of the visible universe

2019-09-11 Thread Alan Grayson
On Monday, September 9, 2019 at 4:44:51 AM UTC-6, Lawrence Crowell wrote: > > On Sunday, September 8, 2019 at 9:02:15 PM UTC-5, Alan Grayson wrote: >> >> >> >> On Sunday, September 8, 2019 at 1:28:36 PM UTC-6, Lawrence Crowell wrote: >>> >>> >

Re: Another physicist in mental decline (Sean Carroll)

2019-09-13 Thread Alan Grayson
On Friday, September 13, 2019 at 5:27:32 PM UTC-6, Bruce wrote: > > On Sat, Sep 14, 2019 at 8:26 AM Stathis Papaioannou > wrote: > >> On Sat, 14 Sep 2019 at 08:08, John Clark > > wrote: >> >>> On Thu, Sep 12, 2019 at 10:26 PM Alan Grayson >> >

Re: Another physicist in mental decline (Sean Carroll)

2019-09-13 Thread Alan Grayson
On Friday, September 13, 2019 at 4:42:00 PM UTC-6, Jason wrote: > > > > On Fri, Sep 13, 2019 at 8:25 AM Alan Grayson > wrote: > >> >> >> On Friday, September 13, 2019 at 5:24:11 AM UTC-6, Bruno Marchal wrote: >>> >>> >>> On 13 Sep 2

Re: Another physicist in mental decline (Sean Carroll)

2019-09-14 Thread Alan Grayson
On Saturday, September 14, 2019 at 7:18:40 AM UTC-6, John Clark wrote: > > On Fri, Sep 13, 2019 at 11:22 PM Alan Grayson > wrote: > > *> What I think you're missing (and Tegmark) is the possibility of >> UNcountable universes. In such case, one could imag

Re: Another physicist in mental decline (Sean Carroll)

2019-09-14 Thread Alan Grayson
On Saturday, September 14, 2019 at 12:34:18 AM UTC-6, Jason wrote: > > > > On Friday, September 13, 2019, Alan Grayson > wrote: > >> >> >> On Friday, September 13, 2019 at 4:42:00 PM UTC-6, Jason wrote: >>> >>> >>&g

Re: Another physicist in mental decline (Sean Carroll)

2019-09-13 Thread Alan Grayson
On Friday, September 13, 2019 at 4:08:23 PM UTC-6, John Clark wrote: > > On Thu, Sep 12, 2019 at 10:26 PM Alan Grayson > wrote: > > >> *> Carroll also believes that IF the universe is infinite, then there >> must exist exact copies of universes and ourselves.

Re: Another physicist in mental decline (Sean Carroll)

2019-09-14 Thread Alan Grayson
On Saturday, September 14, 2019 at 12:34:18 AM UTC-6, Jason wrote: > > > > On Friday, September 13, 2019, Alan Grayson > wrote: > >> >> >> On Friday, September 13, 2019 at 4:42:00 PM UTC-6, Jason wrote: >>> >>> >>&g

Re: Another physicist in mental decline (Sean Carroll)

2019-09-14 Thread Alan Grayson
On Saturday, September 14, 2019 at 5:31:12 AM UTC-6, Lawrence Crowell wrote: > > On Saturday, September 14, 2019 at 6:02:13 AM UTC-5, Alan Grayson wrote: >> >> >> >> On Saturday, September 14, 2019 at 3:56:42 AM UTC-6, Lawrence Crowell >> wrote: >>>

Re: Another physicist in mental decline (Sean Carroll)

2019-09-14 Thread Alan Grayson
On Saturday, September 14, 2019 at 12:34:18 AM UTC-6, Jason wrote: > > > > On Friday, September 13, 2019, Alan Grayson > wrote: > >> >> >> On Friday, September 13, 2019 at 4:42:00 PM UTC-6, Jason wrote: >>> >>> >>&g

Re: Another physicist in mental decline (Sean Carroll)

2019-09-14 Thread Alan Grayson
On Saturday, September 14, 2019 at 3:56:42 AM UTC-6, Lawrence Crowell wrote: > > On Friday, September 13, 2019 at 10:22:38 PM UTC-5, Alan Grayson wrote: >> >> >> >> On Friday, September 13, 2019 at 4:08:23 PM UTC-6, John Clark wrote: >>> >>&g

Entropy of early universe

2019-09-14 Thread Alan Grayson
If the early universe, say before the emergence of the CMBR, consisted of a random collection of electrons and photons, wouldn't this correspond to a *high*, not low entropy? Wouldn't it be analogous to gas with many possible states? Yet cosmologists seem hard pressed to explain an initial or

Re: Another physicist in mental decline (Sean Carroll)

2019-09-14 Thread Alan Grayson
On Saturday, September 14, 2019 at 7:29:33 AM UTC-6, Alan Grayson wrote: > > > > On Saturday, September 14, 2019 at 7:18:40 AM UTC-6, John Clark wrote: >> >> On Fri, Sep 13, 2019 at 11:22 PM Alan Grayson >> wrote: >> >> *> What I think yo

Re: Entropy of early universe

2019-09-14 Thread Alan Grayson
On Saturday, September 14, 2019 at 7:12:34 AM UTC-6, Alan Grayson wrote: > > If the early universe, say before the emergence of the CMBR, consisted of > a random collection of electrons and photons, wouldn't this correspond to a > *high*, not low entropy? Wouldn't it be anal

Re: Another physicist in mental decline (Sean Carroll)

2019-09-16 Thread Alan Grayson
On Monday, September 16, 2019 at 9:00:46 AM UTC-6, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > > On 14 Sep 2019, at 05:22, Alan Grayson > > wrote: > > > > On Friday, September 13, 2019 at 4:08:23 PM UTC-6, John Clark wrote: >> >> On Thu, Sep 12, 2019 at 10:26 PM Alan Gra

Re: Quantum immortality

2019-09-16 Thread Alan Grayson
On Monday, September 16, 2019 at 6:18:29 AM UTC-6, John Clark wrote: > > On Sun, Sep 15, 2019 at 8:34 AM Bruno Marchal > wrote: > > > *With mechanism* [...] > > > Bruno, I really wish you wouldn't start long paragraphs with those two > words because when you do I don't know if I agree with you

Re: Another physicist in mental decline (Sean Carroll)

2019-09-16 Thread Alan Grayson
On Monday, September 16, 2019 at 11:31:26 AM UTC-6, Jason wrote: > > > > On Mon, Sep 16, 2019 at 3:31 AM Alan Grayson > wrote: > >> >> >> On Wednesday, September 11, 2019 at 10:45:41 PM UTC-6, Alan Grayson wrote: >>> >>> >>&g

Re: Another physicist in mental decline (Sean Carroll)

2019-09-14 Thread Alan Grayson
On Saturday, September 14, 2019 at 11:19:47 AM UTC-6, stathisp wrote: > > > > On Sat, 14 Sep 2019 at 22:57, Jason Resch > wrote: > >> >> >> On Sat, Sep 14, 2019, 2:44 AM Alan Grayson > > wrote: >> >>> >>> >

Re: Another physicist in mental decline (Sean Carroll)

2019-09-14 Thread Alan Grayson
On Saturday, September 14, 2019 at 7:18:40 AM UTC-6, John Clark wrote: > > On Fri, Sep 13, 2019 at 11:22 PM Alan Grayson > wrote: > > *> What I think you're missing (and Tegmark) is the possibility of >> UNcountable universes. In such case, one could imag

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