> On 14-May-2023, at 6:05 PM, Lawrence Crowell
> wrote:
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> On Saturday, May 13, 2023 at 8:36:58 PM UTC-5 Samiya Illias wrote:
> We live in a high security prison, Earth, where we have been exiled since our
> father Adam was sent here.
>
>
> I was with a woman who is D'Ne, or native
On Saturday, May 13, 2023 at 8:36:58 PM UTC-5 Samiya Illias wrote:
We live in a high security prison, Earth, where we have been exiled since
our father Adam was sent here.
I was with a woman who is D'Ne, or native American Navajo, and we were
stopped by a person plugging Christianity and
We live in a high security prison, Earth, where we have been exiled since our
father Adam was sent here.
> On 14-May-2023, at 5:26 AM, Lawrence Crowell
> wrote:
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> I disagreed with Sagan. Absence of evidence is evidence of absence, but not
> proof of absence. In science we cannot prove a
I disagreed with Sagan. Absence of evidence is evidence of absence, but not
proof of absence. In science we cannot prove a negative. If we can find a
planet with chemical signature of complex biology we might be able to say
there is intelligent life elsewhere in the universe. It is a big
ce fiction required. Nice Hubble and JWST, but no hits, no runs, no
errors, and no one left on base!
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From: John Clark
To: spudboy...@aol.com
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Sent: Sun, May 7, 2023 7:59 am
Subject: Re: Type II/Type III Civilization Search Finds Not
On Sat, May 6, 2023 at 10:16 PM wrote:
*> Why Have We Never Detected Aliens? Scientist Proposes a New Explanation
> (msn.com)
>
On Sat, May 6, 2023 at 6:27 PM Brent Meeker wrote:
>> I can think of 3 possibilities:
>> 1) They don't need such constructs because intelligent life, other than
>> that which exists on earth, never existed in the observable universe.
>> 2) They don't need such constructs because intelligent life
Why Have We Never Detected Aliens? Scientist Proposes a New Explanation
(msn.com)
What about this? Simply a distance and distribution thing?
-Original Message-From: John Clark
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Sent: Sat, May 6, 2023 12:43 pm
Subject: Re: Type II/Type III
On 5/6/2023 9:43 AM, John Clark wrote:
I can think of 3 possibilities:
1) They don't need such constructsbecause intelligent life, other than
that which exists on earth, never existed in the observable universe.
2) They don't need such constructsbecause intelligent life has existed
in
On Fri, May 5, 2023 at 11:02 PM Tomasz Rola wrote:
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> * > Dyson sphere is purely theoretical concept. Was there even a small
> model built and tried? Something like ten meters in diameter, for example?*
Huh? Have objects 10 m in diameter or larger ever been heated internally?
Yes
*> Was
On Tue, May 02, 2023 at 08:13:39AM -0400, John Clark wrote:
> On Mon, May 1, 2023 at 8:30 PM Tomasz Rola wrote:
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> >
> >> The radiant electromagnetic energy output of a star with a Dyson
> >> >> Sphere around it would be exactly the same as it was before the Dyson
> >> >> Sphere was built, the
On Mon, May 1, 2023 at 8:30 PM Tomasz Rola wrote:
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>> The radiant electromagnetic energy output of a star with a Dyson
>> >> Sphere around it would be exactly the same as it was before the Dyson
>> >> Sphere was built, the only difference is the energy would have been
>> put to
>> >> work and
On Fri, Apr 28, 2023 at 10:20:06AM -0400, John Clark wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 27, 2023 at 10:04 PM Tomasz Rola wrote:
>
[...]
> > * I mean, star is projecting this whole energy outwards, so the idea of
> > sucking it up and keepeing it inwards sounds fishy and possibly hints of
> > some mental
I have noticed a curious upsurge in ideas that involve a little bit of
science, some futuristic stuff with a heavy dollop of science fiction ideas
that are framed within libertarian or right winged political ideology.
Social media has had a big growth in this sort of silliness. I suppose
maybe
Well, we have this sort of cosmic equivalence principle that what is down
on Earth is the same up there. Things are screwy here on Earth and we
humans are little more than 8 billion trash making ground apes
exponentially rampaging out of control. So, should we expect things to be
substantially
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Sent: Fri, Apr 28, 2023 10:20 am
Subject: Re: Type II/Type III Civilization Search Finds Nothing
On Thu, Apr 27, 2023 at 10:04 PM Tomasz Rola wrote:
> As of relations between hypotetical neighbors, I do not think anybody
would make big fuss if one of them decided to suck full ene
: Tomasz Rola
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Sent: Thu, Apr 27, 2023 10:04 pm
Subject: Re: Type II/Type III Civilization Search Finds Nothing
On Wed, Apr 26, 2023 at 12:58:34PM -0400, John Clark wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 24, 2023 at 9:07 PM Tomasz Rola wrote:
>
>
> >
On Thu, Apr 27, 2023 at 10:04 PM Tomasz Rola wrote:
>
> *> As of relations between hypotetical neighbors, I do not think anybody
> would make big fuss if one of them decided to suck full energy of their
> star (i.e. becoming Type2).*
I can't think of any reason neighbors would object to
On Wed, Apr 26, 2023 at 12:58:34PM -0400, John Clark wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 24, 2023 at 9:07 PM Tomasz Rola wrote:
>
>
> > * > My version is, if there was anything like type2/3 civilization, it
> > would quickly become a pest to everybody around.*
>
>
> Only if the neighbors had something that
On Mon, Apr 24, 2023 at 9:07 PM Tomasz Rola wrote:
> * > My version is, if there was anything like type2/3 civilization, it
> would quickly become a pest to everybody around.*
Only if the neighbors had something that a type 3 civilization didn't, and
I can't imagine what that could be.
>
On Sun, Apr 23, 2023 at 09:39:41AM -0400, John Clark wrote:
> Yet more evidence that we're alone in the universe, at least the observable
> universe.
>
> Upper limits on transmitter rate of extragalactic civilizations placed by
> Breakthrough Listen observations
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